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scopus tang

scopus tang

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Originally Posted by gypsana
http:///forum/post/2935034
The discrepancies on what how deep a deep sand bed really needs to be and the metal halide only attitude. It really gets old especially when people have had great success without them.
What people have had success without DSBs - Where is your evidence
. JK! How about the flip side of that - DSBs will always eventually go bad and nuke your tank
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spanko

spanko

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How about;Water changes during a cycle will lengthen the total cycle time.
Encouraging a large ammonia spike will create a larger biological filter.
(Pterosynchiropus sp.) and (Synchiropus sp.) , Mandarin Dragonets cannot be trained to eat anything but pods.
 
srfisher17

srfisher17

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/2935414
How about;
Water changes during a cycle will lengthen the total cycle time.
Encouraging a large ammonia spike will create a larger biological filter.
(Pterosynchiropus sp.) and (Synchiropus sp.) , Mandarin Dragonets cannot be trained to eat anything but pods.
This reminds me of one of the most common myths; that water is "cycled" and using "cycled" water in a new set-up will jump start the bio-filter. It will, of course, do nothing.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2935484
This reminds me of one of the most common myths; that water is "cycled" and using "cycled" water in a new set-up will jump start the bio-filter. It will, of course, do nothing.
The one thing it may do if your are extremely unlucky is introduce Ick from a established tank into your new setup
 
culp

culp

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i would say the common misinformation i hear is that to have healthy corals you need to have t'5 or metal halides. which is not true at all. my LFS as a 75 gallon tank on display that they can keep any thing in under 3 96 watt CF.
 
socal57che

socal57che

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Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2933666
that clowns are damsels.
[ Kingdoms ]
Animalia (16)
[ Phyla ]
Vertebrata (3) (subphylum of Chordata)
Notochord replaced by vertebral column, brain and cranium, cephalization, 7 classes.
[ Classes ]
Actinopterygii (23)
Bony Fishes
[ Orders ]
Perciformes (72)
Perch-like Fishes
[ Families ]
Pomacentridae (14)
Damsels
[ Genera ]
Amphiprion (16)
Clownfishes, Anemonefishes
Technically speaking, they are.
Joe, your threads are to the "new hobbyist" forum, what cowfishrule's threads are to the aquarium.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Joe, your threads are to the "new hobbyist" forum, what cowfishrule's threads are to the aquarium.
My friend the complement is graciously accepted
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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How has no one said this yet... "All tanks have ich." No, they do not. Ich is a parasite and MUST be introduced into an aquarium. It does not spontaneously appear. I grow tired of seeing people type that. Ich is completely treatable and manageable, and is NOT in every system. That is like saying a grouper is in every system. No, you have to put one in there for there to be one there.
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2934090
Tell that to Sir Q she thinks I am nothing but a wise A-S
Joe, you know I think more of you than that!!
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Gooch
http:///forum/post/2934593
Thank you for the detailed response.
Southdown is still under operation under the parent company Old Castle. They still distribute under either the southdown-oldcastle name or even kolorscape but the bags tend to have the same design. The thing that did die with them was their access to "tropical" sand which came from the bahamas so now their sand is not tropical anymore, it is quarried from limestone.
From the oldcastle/southdown rep herself I got sent this info:
I am curious as to what the fineness of standard aragonite sand is compared to this.
I also wonder what were the brands of playsand that others have used as I wouldnt be suprised if there was a variation in size and fineness between different brands.
Having it muckup and turn to a cement like substance certainly would be something I would like to avoid. I wonder if that can be minimalized if it was offset with some live sand.. which is something I was planning on doing.
There is still a missing 3%. I'm not one of the nuts, but if people flip out because of a tds of 10 and change all their RO/DI filters. I'd think they should flip about about that missing 3%
Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2934641
All somewhat controversial; but (IMO & IME) all these are wrong:
2.) "Nitrate factories"..ammonia/nitrite can't be eliminated without producing nitrate
5.) copper is always dangerous and should be avoided at all costs.
6.) copper soaks into silicone sealant and leeches out at 9) My favorite, and most controversial: everyone, everywhere needs RO/DI.
10) On a moral level, a moorish idol is more important than the tuna in my sandwich.
Nitrate factories really ticks me off. It should be you're too lazy to clean your bio-balls and or canister filter.
And it really ticks me off when people think that somehow the silicone is going to absorb enough copper to crasha tank.
And well,
 
srfisher17

srfisher17

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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2936972
How has no one said this yet... "All tanks have ich." No, they do not. Ich is a parasite and MUST be introduced into an aquarium. It does not spontaneously appear. I grow tired of seeing people type that. Ich is completely treatable and manageable, and is NOT in every system. That is like saying a grouper is in every system. No, you have to put one in there for there to be one
Thanks! This should be should have been at the top of the list; I don't know why I forgot it. Maybe because it is so annoying to keep defending what is pure logic; unless there must be an ich fairy living somewhere.
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2936788
[ Kingdoms ]
Animalia (16)
[ Phyla ]
Vertebrata (3) (subphylum of Chordata)
Notochord replaced by vertebral column, brain and cranium, cephalization, 7 classes.
[ Classes ]
Actinopterygii (23)
Bony Fishes
[ Orders ]
Perciformes (72)
Perch-like Fishes
[ Families ]
Pomacentridae (14)
Damsels
[ Genera ]
Amphiprion (16)
Clownfishes, Anemonefishes
Technically speaking, they are.
Joe, your threads are to the "new hobbyist" forum, what cowfishrule's threads are to the aquarium.

I was on your side of the fence for 30 years. Ren recently introduced me to the "Sub-Family" concept. I have not had time to research if this is a new classification system for Damsels, or if it's an alternate classification system, or if I've just been in the dark for 3 decades about it.
Regardless, even if it wasn't enough to convince me to jump the fence to join the other side, it was a convincing enough arguement to put me squarely in the middle, on top of the fence, awaiting further information.
 
socal57che

socal57che

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Their behavior is all I need to lump them all together as damsels. Where will the damsels that have symbiotic relationships with nems be placed?
It will need to be a pretty convincing argument to get me to jump fence.
Like your avatar, btw. Animated gif?
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2939923
Their behavior is all I need to lump them all together as damsels. Where will the damsels that have symbiotic relationships with nems be placed?
It will need to be a pretty convincing argument to get me to jump fence.
Like your avatar, btw. Animated gif?
Like I said, I haven't jumped the fence quite yet, but I'm unsure of the "Technical" classification. I agree with behaviour and Dominos are definately Anemonefish but not Clownfish.
The GIF cycles through one of my sets of Australian "Ocean Series" Dollar Coins.
 
srfisher17

srfisher17

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I'm no biologist; but I always assumed classification (taxonomy) is based on physical (often tiny) differences, not behavior. Where would all the "mimic" fish be classified? If behavior was a factor, many damsels would be classified as triggers.
 
socal57che

socal57che

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Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2940724
I'm no biologist; but I always assumed classification (taxonomy) is based on physical (often tiny) differences, not behavior. Where would all the "mimic" fish be classified? If behavior was a factor, many damsels would be classified as triggers.
This brings us back to my original post...anemonefish are indeed damsels as per their taxonomical classification regardless of any behavioral similarities. Given that they are damsels it would not be unreasonable that they share behavioral traits.
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2941361
This brings us back to my original post...anemonefish are indeed damsels as per their taxonomical classification regardless of any behavioral similarities. Given that they are damsels it would not be unreasonable that they share behavioral traits.
Chromis are also in the same Family. (just adding to the discussion)
 
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