WTH AM I doing wrong???????????

meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Shrimpy Brains
http:///forum/post/3294594
You have a 15 hour total daylight cycle? Or did I misunderstand that?
I have always had this schedule.....actinics on at 7....off at 10 pm
metal halides run later....6-7 hours total for them
 
2quills

2quills

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the 6-7 may not be...but the 15 hours of actinics is like the maximum amount sunlight in the middle of the summer on a completely sunny day every single day.
i dunno...I've just read that one of the best things to do when cyano starts is to cut the lighting.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by 2Quills
http:///forum/post/3294618
the 6-7 may not be...but the 15 hours of actinics is like the maximum amount sunlight in the middle of the summer on a completely sunny day every single day.
i dunno...I've just read that one of the best things to do when cyano starts is to cut the lighting.
IDK what to do....like I said...I have always had them on like this.....Do you think I can have the actinics come on in the morning for an hour....then go off for 2 or 3...and come back on
this way I can still feed them in the morning
 
2quills

2quills

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3294621
IDK what to do....like I said...I have always had them on like this.....Do you think I can have the actinics come on in the morning for an hour....then go off for 2 or 3...and come back on
this way I can still feed them in the morning
Just sayin...from what I've been reading, the best thing to do is cut the lighting down in the mean time till the true source/sources can be pin pointed. Then once the problem is taken care of, slowly bring the lights back up.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by 2Quills
http:///forum/post/3294625
Just sayin...from what I've been reading, the best thing to do is cut the lighting down in the mean time till the true source/sources can be pin pointed. Then once the problem is taken care of, slowly bring the lights back up.
Yeah....I know.....I'm just trying to figure out how to make it work with my work schedule....and still try to feeding the fish consistantly.....
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by 2Quills
http:///forum/post/3294627
lol...how often do you feed them?
every morning....frozen foods with vitamins.....(a lot less food then I was though)

OHHHHH In May I bought a bunch of frozen H20 brand foods.....probably by June I was using only that...with saltwater multipack.....could it be the food?????????????
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by 2Quills
http:///forum/post/3294634
uh huh uh huh...and how often with the algae sheets?
Well when I cut the food way down...it was suggested to feed algae sheets daily

I edited my post about the foods...LOL...go look now
 
meowzer

meowzer

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H2O Life Pro-Variety Mix...small and large fish
H2O Life Coral Frozen Food Mix
H2O Life Spirulina Brine Shrimp & Mysis
San Francisco Bay BrandSaltwater Multi-Pack
Prime Reef
Formula Two Frozen Food
I also use Selcon, Zoe, Zoecon, Vita-chem....and H2O Life GVH Fish Food Soak
 
2quills

2quills

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3294637
H2O Life Pro-Variety Mix...small and large fish
H2O Life Coral Frozen Food Mix
H2O Life Spirulina Brine Shrimp & Mysis
San Francisco Bay BrandSaltwater Multi-Pack
Prime Reef
Formula Two Frozen Food
I also use Selcon, Zoe, Zoecon, Vita-chem....and H2O Life GVH Fish Food Soak
Just me...
I'd cut the lights down.
Cut back on the algae sheets. (twice a week)
Rinse all frozen foods.
Manual removal of the cyano. (which you've been doing)
Try for a week or two and see if anything changes.
Only way I know to stop cyano other than manually removing it is to starve it.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Thanks Corey.....I'll try that.....they got no algae sheet tonight...but a peppermint shrimp had babies...LOL...so the whole tank got a tasty live treat
 
spanko

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If your sand is clumping I would suggest this to be a sign of not enough stirring. You had the ray in there and that helped keep the sand stirred up, the "glue" that is in fact detritus that is clumping the sand is not being stirred enough to be removed by the filters, feeding fish and feeding coral.
Along with that did you put or have a calcium reactor on this tank? My thinking here is that your calcium - alkalinity levels may be too high and the clumping may be a result of this. A dKH of 13 is fine; anything much higher might introduce complications in balancing your chemistry. I kinda like the number 12 dKH. I think you should shoot for a calcium level of 425-450. This is a shot in the dark really but thought I would throw it in there. I still think you need to stir the sand more.
Do you have any sand sifting creatures in this tank, gobies, sand sifting stars? These could be decimating the sandbed infauna and keeping the sand from being stirred.
I would also suggest an army of nassarius snails. They are carrion eaters and they burrow in the upper layer of sand, which stirs it up a bit and they do not prey on the sandbed infauna. Also some cerith snails would help keep the sand clean of algae as well as stir it up.
 
king_neptune

king_neptune

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Dont you have a heavily stocked tank?
I get the cyano from time to time, usually in a small 5-6" patch and that's about it.
It recently came back when I upped my LED's to 12hours a day. Man they look so beautiful! And dirt cheap to operate!
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3294722
If your sand is clumping I would suggest this to be a sign of not enough stirring. You had the ray in there and that helped keep the sand stirred up, the "glue" that is in fact detritus that is clumping the sand is not being stirred enough to be removed by the filters, feeding fish and feeding coral.
Along with that did you put or have a calcium reactor on this tank? My thinking here is that your calcium - alkalinity levels may be too high and the clumping may be a result of this. A dKH of 13 is fine; anything much higher might introduce complications in balancing your chemistry. I kinda like the number 12 dKH. I think you should shoot for a calcium level of 425-450. This is a shot in the dark really but thought I would throw it in there. I still think you need to stir the sand more.
Do you have any sand sifting creatures in this tank, gobies, sand sifting stars? These could be decimating the sandbed infauna and keeping the sand from being stirred.
I would also suggest an army of nassarius snails. They are carrion eaters and they burrow in the upper layer of sand, which stirs it up a bit and they do not prey on the sandbed infauna. Also some cerith snails would help keep the sand clean of algae as well as stir it up.
I have one large conch, some nass, some cerith, 1 or 2 fancy nassarius, and I just got a golden headed goby.....I add nothing to my tank to raise calcium
NO I did not add a calcium reactor....I added a phosphate reactor....How do I lower calcium????? Are you saying my alk is ok?????
I am going to order more nass snails....and a couple more conch I think
 
spanko

spanko

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No, I don't know what your calcium and alk readings are, just throwing out some options to look at. The sleeper goby can grow to 12 inches long. It is a sand sifter and will consume beneficial infauna in the sand bed.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3294958
No, I don't know what your calcium and alk readings are, just throwing out some options to look at. The sleeper goby can grow to 12 inches long. It is a sand sifter and will consume beneficial infauna in the sand bed.
LOL...They are in the 1st post....calcium 460.....alk 11.2
So are you saying the goldenheaded goby is bad??? Right now it is a small one...I just got it because my Large banded bullet sleeper goby disappeared
and I thought these were good for the tank?
 
pirates

pirates

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are you overfeeding? you maybe feeding you may need a bigger cuc i do know that the Dwarf Zebra Hermit Crab eats that stuff just keep your sand stirred up that will help to good luck i had that to i used the Dwarf Zebra Hermits and it worked
all my water is good? hope that helps
 
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