Xbox360 Or Playstation 3
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airforceb2
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Whatever is cheaper.
oceana
Active Member
Where the heck did you hear the new playstation would be better??
All around the xbox is a bit more capable.
Lets put aside bias opinions and look solely at the specs.
Xbox 360 makes the ps3 look like a commodore 64. ok maybe not that bad but at least like a 7800 Atari. lol
The new playstation hardly even will be as powerful as the current xbox let alone the new 360. The spec sheet of both the 360 and the Playstation3 look like something out a science fiction book. The 360 will be running not one, not two, but THREE 3.2 processors. The PS 3 on has ONE!! The 360 is so advanced we don’t even have software available yet that can push the 360 to its limits. They are already gearing DOWN some of the games being made for the 360 just so they can be ported over to the new playstation when it comes out.
I think they are both great systems BUT the ONLY reason the ps2 is more popular then the current xbox is because it has more games and has been out longer. As far as specs go the ps2 is not even close be being able to produce the graphic levels that the xbox can. That’s why games made just for xbox can’t be played on the playstation without being drastically down graded. And it’s also why when games come from playstation to the xbox the makers boast about new better graphics because they were able to boost it up for the better system. The same goes for the new systems coming out
So both systems will be great but pound for pound the 360 is more capable.
Personally I’m sure I will end up owning both But I think Xbox is going to have a HUGE jump in there market share this time around.
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All around the xbox is a bit more capable.
Lets put aside bias opinions and look solely at the specs.
Xbox 360 makes the ps3 look like a commodore 64. ok maybe not that bad but at least like a 7800 Atari. lol
The new playstation hardly even will be as powerful as the current xbox let alone the new 360. The spec sheet of both the 360 and the Playstation3 look like something out a science fiction book. The 360 will be running not one, not two, but THREE 3.2 processors. The PS 3 on has ONE!! The 360 is so advanced we don’t even have software available yet that can push the 360 to its limits. They are already gearing DOWN some of the games being made for the 360 just so they can be ported over to the new playstation when it comes out.
I think they are both great systems BUT the ONLY reason the ps2 is more popular then the current xbox is because it has more games and has been out longer. As far as specs go the ps2 is not even close be being able to produce the graphic levels that the xbox can. That’s why games made just for xbox can’t be played on the playstation without being drastically down graded. And it’s also why when games come from playstation to the xbox the makers boast about new better graphics because they were able to boost it up for the better system. The same goes for the new systems coming out
So both systems will be great but pound for pound the 360 is more capable.
Personally I’m sure I will end up owning both But I think Xbox is going to have a HUGE jump in there market share this time around.
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malounsbury
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Here's the specs for the PS3:
CPU:
Cell Processor -- PowerPC-base Core -3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE -3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
Total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU:
RSX -550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound:
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-base processing)
Memory:
256MB XDR Main RAM -3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM -700MHz
System Bandwidth:
Main RAM: 25.6GB/s
VRAM: 22.4GB/s
RSX: 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB: 2.5GB/s (write) +
2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance:
2 TFLOPS
Storage:
HDD: Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
I/O:
USB: Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick: Standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD: standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication:
Ethernet: (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi: IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller:
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP(R))
Network (over IP)
AV Output:
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc media (read only):
CD: PlayStation(R) CD-ROM; PlayStation(R)2 CD-ROM
CD-DA: CD-DA (ROM); CD-R; CD-RW
SACD: SACD Hybrid (CD layer); SACD HD
DualDisc: DualDisc (audio side); DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation(R)2 DVD-ROM; PLAYSTATION(R)3 DVD-ROM
DVD-Video: DVD-ROM; DVD-R; DVD-RW; DVD+R; DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PLAYSTATION(R)3 BD-ROM
BD-Video: BD-ROM; BD-R ;BD-RE
So, it has a hot swappable slot for a 2.5" (laptop) hard drive. Also 6 USB connectors, I think you can use 4 of them at a time. PLUS, you can use 7 bluetooth controllers at once. Two HDMI outputs, so you can hook it up to TWO HDTVs at once. You can also hook up any USB mini drive to it and use it for a memory card. Also will take Sony Memory sticks, SD and CF cards.
Also, I can't remember the exact name of it, but the original XBox could show about 2½ million bit per pixel, or something along those lines. The XBox 360 does 9 million. PS3? 55 MILLION. 'Nuff said. :yes:
CPU:
Cell Processor -- PowerPC-base Core -3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE -3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
Total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU:
RSX -550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound:
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-base processing)
Memory:
256MB XDR Main RAM -3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM -700MHz
System Bandwidth:
Main RAM: 25.6GB/s
VRAM: 22.4GB/s
RSX: 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB: 2.5GB/s (write) +
2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance:
2 TFLOPS
Storage:
HDD: Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
I/O:
USB: Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick: Standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD: standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication:
Ethernet: (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi: IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller:
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP(R))
Network (over IP)
AV Output:
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc media (read only):
CD: PlayStation(R) CD-ROM; PlayStation(R)2 CD-ROM
CD-DA: CD-DA (ROM); CD-R; CD-RW
SACD: SACD Hybrid (CD layer); SACD HD
DualDisc: DualDisc (audio side); DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation(R)2 DVD-ROM; PLAYSTATION(R)3 DVD-ROM
DVD-Video: DVD-ROM; DVD-R; DVD-RW; DVD+R; DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PLAYSTATION(R)3 BD-ROM
BD-Video: BD-ROM; BD-R ;BD-RE
So, it has a hot swappable slot for a 2.5" (laptop) hard drive. Also 6 USB connectors, I think you can use 4 of them at a time. PLUS, you can use 7 bluetooth controllers at once. Two HDMI outputs, so you can hook it up to TWO HDTVs at once. You can also hook up any USB mini drive to it and use it for a memory card. Also will take Sony Memory sticks, SD and CF cards.
Also, I can't remember the exact name of it, but the original XBox could show about 2½ million bit per pixel, or something along those lines. The XBox 360 does 9 million. PS3? 55 MILLION. 'Nuff said. :yes:
oceana
Active Member
Your pulling from a none official spec sheet my friend. although that is very close to what was said at E3 press conference on monday. that sheet is from before the official was released and even now it is still being altered.
The problem is parts of the ps3 are capable of doing great things but other parts are not capable able of keeping up. So it null and voids certain high points. again they will both be great but side by side the 360 out performs. just like the current xbox does the ps2.
roger mondel has already been able to preveiw and confirmed this.
The problem is parts of the ps3 are capable of doing great things but other parts are not capable able of keeping up. So it null and voids certain high points. again they will both be great but side by side the 360 out performs. just like the current xbox does the ps2.
roger mondel has already been able to preveiw and confirmed this.
malounsbury
Member
Ok, but if you're saying its still changing, then how can they demo a full and complete PS3 if its not the final spec? Considering there's still a year before the PS3 hits the mass market, there's probably going to be a lot more tweaking.
And as far as the spec sheet is concerned, that's all pulled from everything that was confirmed at E3. So, unless they're blowing smoke at E3 and none of its true, which I highly doubt, those are the specs.
And as far as the spec sheet is concerned, that's all pulled from everything that was confirmed at E3. So, unless they're blowing smoke at E3 and none of its true, which I highly doubt, those are the specs.
oceana
Active Member
the ps3 that is"demo" with several top advisers of course is not the final product but its give you a good idea as to where they are headed. at E3 i personaly think they ALL leave out certain things. microsoft has to be carful since Sony will have nearly a full eyar to make changes to top the 360. and Sony wil also have to be carful becasue the xbox is so upgradable that they can quickly come out with somthing to top the playstation.
i dont think we TRULY know for sure untill they are both in the store. so really I guess we are all blowing smoke of some sort.
i dont think we TRULY know for sure untill they are both in the store. so really I guess we are all blowing smoke of some sort.
malounsbury
Member
Sorry, and for the numbers I was talking, its called dot product operations. Current Xbox does 2½ billon, XBox 360 does 9 billion and PS3 does 55 billion.
As for the processor, sure it may have 3 PowerPC cores in it (sort of funny since its Microsoft on a Mac core), but they've got the 2nd ranking graphics producer. The graphics processor in the PS3, which will probably be a new GeForce, is pretty much two cores on top of each other.
As for the processor, sure it may have 3 PowerPC cores in it (sort of funny since its Microsoft on a Mac core), but they've got the 2nd ranking graphics producer. The graphics processor in the PS3, which will probably be a new GeForce, is pretty much two cores on top of each other.
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tuningvis
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Xbox 360 System Performance Specifications
Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
* Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
* Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total
* VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
* 128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
* 1 MB L2 cache
CPU Game Math Performance
* 9 billion dot product operations per second
Custom ATI Graphics Processor
* 10 MB of embedded DRAM
* 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines
* Unified shader architecture
Polygon Performance
* 500 million triangles per second
Pixel Fill Rate
* 16 gigasamples per second fill rate using 4x MSAA
Shader Performance
* 48 billion shader operations per second
Memory
* 512 MB of 700 MHz GDDR3 RAM
* Unified memory architecture
Memory Bandwidth
* 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
* 256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
* 21.6 GB/s front-side bus
Overall System Floating-Point Performance
* 1 teraflop
Storage
* Detachable and upgradeable 20GB hard drive
* 12x dual-layer DVD-ROM
* Memory Unit support starting at 64 MB
I/O
* Support for up to four wireless game controllers
* Three USB 2.0 ports
* Two memory unit slots
Optimized for Online
* Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features with broadband service, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, gamer profile for digital identity, and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies, or listening to music
* Built-in Ethernet port
* Wi-Fi ready: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g
* Video camera ready
Digital Media Support
* Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
* Ability to stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras and Windows XP-based PCs
* Ability to rip music to the Xbox 360 hard drive
* Custom playlists in every game
* Built-in Media Center Extender for Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
* Interactive, full-screen 3-D visualizers
High-Definition Game Support
* All games supported at 16:9, 720p, and 1080i, anti-aliasing
* Standard-definition and high-definition video output supported
Audio
* Multi-channel surround sound output
* Supports 48KHz 16-bit audio
* 320 independent decompression channels
* 32-bit audio processing
* Over 256 audio channels
System Orientation
* Stands vertically or horizontally
Customizable Face Plates
* Interchangeable to personalize the console
Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
* Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
* Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total
* VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
* 128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
* 1 MB L2 cache
CPU Game Math Performance
* 9 billion dot product operations per second
Custom ATI Graphics Processor
* 10 MB of embedded DRAM
* 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines
* Unified shader architecture
Polygon Performance
* 500 million triangles per second
Pixel Fill Rate
* 16 gigasamples per second fill rate using 4x MSAA
Shader Performance
* 48 billion shader operations per second
Memory
* 512 MB of 700 MHz GDDR3 RAM
* Unified memory architecture
Memory Bandwidth
* 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
* 256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
* 21.6 GB/s front-side bus
Overall System Floating-Point Performance
* 1 teraflop
Storage
* Detachable and upgradeable 20GB hard drive
* 12x dual-layer DVD-ROM
* Memory Unit support starting at 64 MB
I/O
* Support for up to four wireless game controllers
* Three USB 2.0 ports
* Two memory unit slots
Optimized for Online
* Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features with broadband service, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, gamer profile for digital identity, and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies, or listening to music
* Built-in Ethernet port
* Wi-Fi ready: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g
* Video camera ready
Digital Media Support
* Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
* Ability to stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras and Windows XP-based PCs
* Ability to rip music to the Xbox 360 hard drive
* Custom playlists in every game
* Built-in Media Center Extender for Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
* Interactive, full-screen 3-D visualizers
High-Definition Game Support
* All games supported at 16:9, 720p, and 1080i, anti-aliasing
* Standard-definition and high-definition video output supported
Audio
* Multi-channel surround sound output
* Supports 48KHz 16-bit audio
* 320 independent decompression channels
* 32-bit audio processing
* Over 256 audio channels
System Orientation
* Stands vertically or horizontally
Customizable Face Plates
* Interchangeable to personalize the console
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tuningvis
Guest
i am torn between these 2 systems having a PS2 now. and playing on a xbox for the past 6 months..
i dont think there will be a clear decision on which is better until the PS3 comes out and is played along with the xbox... as all system battles have gone in the past and continue to do .. both will have strong points and weak points
just my 2 pennys
i dont think there will be a clear decision on which is better until the PS3 comes out and is played along with the xbox... as all system battles have gone in the past and continue to do .. both will have strong points and weak points
just my 2 pennys
lefty
Active Member
I just so happen to be wearing my Xbox shirt right now. =P I have never had anything against the PS2, but when it came down to choosing between the two when I had the option of getting one, I chose Xbox and have never regreted it (I'm the proud owner of a launch 'box. Woo!). The PS3 and Xbox 360 seem to both be worthy consoles, but my heart belongs to Xbox. 
-lefty
-lefty
malounsbury
Member
Probably not until they have a set date for release. Once the release date has been announced, you can go to a store and pre-order it most likely.
oceana
Active Member
i'm really hoping for the 250 mark as well.
there is a rummer running around the gamer boards that says that they will have a 360 "pack". 360 bucks and you get extra controler ,bigger hard drive ,subsciption to online and a special edition halo 2.5 with added graphics and bonus features. might be rumer might be fact guess we will ahve to wait and see
there is a rummer running around the gamer boards that says that they will have a 360 "pack". 360 bucks and you get extra controler ,bigger hard drive ,subsciption to online and a special edition halo 2.5 with added graphics and bonus features. might be rumer might be fact guess we will ahve to wait and see
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tuningvis
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