xenia help

jjlittle

Member
My xenia appears to be having problems they are shinking and some dieing off. I have not had any rapid changes or anything it was doing good for months. Tank Specs 150 gal ammonia 0 nitrite 0 ph 8.3 nitrate 10 salintity.024 temp 79 -81. Is there any additive / food source that may help bring it back around. Here are some before pics when it was doing good.

 

jjlittle

Member
I dose 10 mils iodine per week which is 5 mils less then the bottle shows should i dose more?or should i do a daily drip of iodine which I hear is a better method? I have seen my Naso pick a couple of times but they were doing the same thing before he was in there he is fairly new.
 

dragonboy

Active Member
Xenia takes time for them to get use to the tank it can do well at first and it can do terrible later. But once they get use to the tank they will take off but even it died off just be patient with it cause it usually comes back just do a lot of water changes and it should pick right back up.
 

bang guy

Moderator
Originally Posted by jjlittle
I dose 10 mils iodine per week which is 5 mils less then the bottle shows should i dose more?
In my opinion your Xenia will come back to full glory if you stop adding Iodine completely.
 

fmelindy

Member
To quote Eric Borneman directly:
"Iodine is anecdotally reported in the hobby and among some propagators to be important to these soft corals. Regular - if not daily- additions are reported as necessary for their health and growth. The actual iodine concentrations in the water are also said to be important, and readings should be taken with an iodine/iodide test kit for an ssessment of proper levels. Although some hobbyists report great success using Lugol's solution with Xenia, others have noted that the addition of this strong iodine product has caused the demise of entire colonies. The risk of such loss should be carefully weighed before using Lugol's solution with Xenia. I have not found iodine to play a role in the success of Xenia, nor is its need or uptake documented, though I have found it to be detrimental in some, but not all, of my experiences with these corals."
This is taken directly from his book "Aquarium Corals" which I have found to be an indispensable resource. So it sounds like the jury's still out but in his mind, at least, it may do more harm than good.
He also notes, as most of us already know and have already pointed out:
"Despite their hardiness in the wild, Xenia species ship poorly and are quite fragile (at least initially) in captivity. They are very prone to "crashes", in which an entire colony will stop pulsing, wilt, deflate and degenerate rapidly. This crash can occur in colonies that have been dividing and thriving for long periods of time. Without any noticeable changes in conditions, the colonies fail rapidly, almost as though they had exhausted some as-yet undiscovered factor in the water. Also they do have short lifespans on the reef, some only 1-2 years, but generally 3-7 years."
So this wilting behaviour can be expected in some of, if not most of, our captive colonies with time, according to his observations. Has anyone had any experience that would contradict this thinking? This has definitely been my experience with Xenia, which I have found to be anything but reliable.
 

bang guy

Moderator
Originally Posted by fmelindy
Bang, how about you? You seem to have lots of experience with Xenia - how have you fared with it?
I have a large 5 year old colony. I have never dosed Iodine directly. It ships poorly. I agree with Eric Borneman 100%.
More importantly, I have advised several fairly experienced hobbiests that regularly dosed Iodine to stop dosing Iodine when their Xenia colony began to decline. The colonys improved 100% of the time. This is 100% anecdotal but 5 in a row leads me to believe there's something to it.
 

mudplayerx

Active Member
I've only been told to dose iodine when actively slicing the xenias up for propegation. Otherwise I have never dosed iodine and all my xenias seem fine. Also, never dose anything that you don't have the respective test kit for :)
A quick question while on the topic of xenias:
I recently found one, single xenia stalk pulsing wildly on a section of live rock about 6 inches beneathe the main colony. It has been alive and well for about a week now. How do you guys suppose this happened? It is as if someone snipped off one of those pulsing heads and stuck it to another part of the live rock. So odd.
 

dragonboy

Active Member
They can jump around by letting loose one of their stalk and let the current carry them to another spot I have one small frag growing on the other side of the tank.
 

mudplayerx

Active Member
I don't have that type of xenia, but mine is growing like mad too. I boguht a single stalk, but now I have like six stalks. They have totally taken over the rock I put them on and have started on two other rocks.
I plan on fraging them and trading them in to the lfs for other frags.
 

teresaq1

Member
I bought some gold from another hobbiest, and have already sold 4 frags to lfs. I still have 4 seperate stalks on two rocks, and found 2 very tiny new ones coming out of live rock.
 
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