Yea, Bush's 'War On Terror' is working great

reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3144357
So you're calling our fighting over in Afghanistan an 'overseas contingency'? You want to tell that to the family of Clemson's friend?
I know exactly what he is talking about. Obama set the tone early on that the term "War of terror" was not to be used by his administration.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3144364
I know exactly what he is talking about. Obama set the tone early on that the term "War of terror" was not to be used by his administration.
Why would he? You think he wants any association whatsoever from Bush's administration? That phrase has been shown to be a little useless anyways, considering everyone is stating that the war in Iraq was the 'War Against WMD's', and not the 'War On Terror'.
 
mantisman51

mantisman51

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Come Sep, a little brutality makes it fun.
Bionic, I can see where you're coming from. But when the govt-led by Bush or Obama-stops some crazy guys from killing Americans (Lehman Bros/Goldman Sachs employees excepted), I call that a good thing.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3144363
Where are the photographs of these supposed WMD's these UN inpspectors saw? This is a new one on me. We knew Iran and North Korea had WMD's in their possession back when Bush was in office. Why didn't he go after them as well? Bush was over there to protect his daddy's legacy, plain and simple. The American people wanted justice for 9-11 more than anything else. Don't even tell me Iraq wasn't sold as a response to that event. Show me the polls that stated the majority of Americans at that time backed going into Iraq for the sole purpose of disarming Hussein of 'suspected' WMD's. I can guarantee you I wasn't one of them.
We knew Iran had WMD's? Got link? As far as I know it was Iraq, not Iran found to have used WMD's during their war

Gads I should just stop there but like the moth to the flame...
You don't think Iraq had WMD's? We have even found them post invasion, just not in the quantities the intelligence agencies believed were there. Why were the UN weapons inspectors there in the first place if Iraq never had WMD's.
Show me the tape of Bush, Cheney or any other administration official saying Iraq was behind the 9-11 attacks.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3144402
We knew Iran had WMD's? Got link? As far as I know it was Iraq, not Iran found to have used WMD's during their war

Gads I should just stop there but like the moth to the flame...
You don't think Iraq had WMD's? We have even found them post invasion, just not in the quantities the intelligence agencies believed were there. Why were the UN weapons inspectors there in the first place if Iraq never had WMD's.
Show me the tape of Bush, Cheney or any other administration official saying Iraq was behind the 9-11 attacks.
Yeaaaa. I recall certain individuals here making statements that Bush knew Iraq was assisting Al Qaeda terrorists financially and allowing them to stay in their country, ergo another reason we invaded Iraq.
Bush and his cronies couldn't make that statement because they knew it wasn't true. Again, show me polls where the American public supported Bush for going to Iraq for the sole purpose of disarming Hussein from 'phantom WMD's'.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3144471
Yeaaaa. I recall certain individuals here making statements that Bush knew Iraq was assisting Al Qaeda terrorists financially and allowing them to stay in their country, ergo another reason we invaded Iraq.
No, we said Hussein was assisting, funding and supporting terrorism...I.E. His public calling for people to suicide bomb Isreal.....If you are going to bring up past debates, atleast do it accurately. And Journey never insulted you personally...I have, but never him......Look at you, whining like a little kid because a Mod scolded you for insulting someone that is unavailable........boohoo....
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3144631
No, we said Hussein was assisting, funding and supporting terrorism...I.E. His public calling for people to suicide bomb Isreal.....If you are going to bring up past debates, atleast do it accurately. And Journey never insulted you personally...I have, but never him......Look at you, whining like a little kid because a Mod scolded you for insulting someone that is unavailable........boohoo....
What's the difference? Whose the main faction in the last 10 years that's the leader in world terrorism? AL QAEDA. Sorry, my mind may be getting feable in its old age, but I do remember those debates.
Journey never insulted me?
Riiight. And what's with the 'let's not pick on a person when he's unavailble'? The guy hasn't posted here in over 6 months. So what's the timeframe before it's deemed a member is no longer an active member? Do you have to wait a 6 months, 8 months, or a year before you make any references to a 'non posting' member? Why is the guy even still a mod on a forum that he doesn't actively participate in?
 
groupergenius

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3144471
Yeaaaa. I recall certain individuals here making statements that Bush knew Iraq was assisting Al Qaeda terrorists financially and allowing them to stay in their country, ergo another reason we invaded Iraq.
Bush and his cronies couldn't make that statement because they knew it wasn't true. Again, show me polls where the American public supported Bush for going to Iraq for the sole purpose of disarming Hussein from 'phantom WMD's'.
Boo-hoo...
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3144471
Yeaaaa. I recall certain individuals here making statements that Bush knew Iraq was assisting Al Qaeda terrorists financially and allowing them to stay in their country, ergo another reason we invaded Iraq.
Bush and his cronies couldn't make that statement because they knew it wasn't true. Again, show me polls where the American public supported Bush for going to Iraq for the sole purpose of disarming Hussein from 'phantom WMD's'.
We know for a fact he was assisting one Al Qaeda terrorist, The guy that got his leg shot off in Afghanistan and went to Baghdad for treatment. Pre-war we didn't know what the relationship between Iraq and AQ was, Which by the way the connection between the two was first put forth by which US president?
You just said Bush didn't make that statement, so who cares what the polls say? If we ran the country bassed off polling Taxes and spending would be a whole lot less and this lame socialist health care scheme would be dead and buried.
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3144718
What's the difference? Whose the main faction in the last 10 years that's the leader in world terrorism? AL QAEDA. Sorry, my mind may be getting feable in its old age, but I do remember those debates.
Journey never insulted me?
Riiight. And what's with the 'let's not pick on a person when he's unavailble'? The guy hasn't posted here in over 6 months. So what's the timeframe before it's deemed a member is no longer an active member? Do you have to wait a 6 months, 8 months, or a year before you make any references to a 'non posting' member? Why is the guy even still a mod on a forum that he doesn't actively participate in?
Journey's seat will still be here when he gets back. It is unfair to hold a one sided argument against ANYONE when that person is not here to defend themselves.
 
groupergenius

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3144718
Journey never insulted me?
Riiight. And what's with the 'let's not pick on a person when he's unavailble'? The guy hasn't posted here in over 6 months. So what's the timeframe before it's deemed a member is no longer an active member? Do you have to wait a 6 months, 8 months, or a year before you make any references to a 'non posting' member? Why is the guy even still a mod on a forum that he doesn't actively participate in?

Why are you still allowed to participate on a forum you don't contribute to?
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
http:///forum/post/3144750
Pick the one you like best...
http://books.google.com/books?id=2DI...ussein&f=false
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81023,00.html
http://abcnews.go.com/images/pdf/919...lineForWar.pdf
I could do this all day....you could too if you actually did a lil' research...

Let's see...
The Gallop Poll is probably the only one of the three that has any credance, and the one you listed had no poll as to whther the American public supported Bush's war in Iraq.
The FoxNews Poll is a waste of space. Any poll they've ever conducted is so far to the right, it isn't worth believing.
The ABCNews Poll? Ehat was conducted with a whopping total of 510 adults. WOW! Now that's a accurate assessment of what 260 MILLION peoiple think.

Try again...
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
http:///forum/post/3144855
Why are you still allowed to participate on a forum you don't contribute to?

I think I've explained that one to ad nauseum. If you'd like, I can go respond to a couple hundred posts about ich, hair algae, what kind of fish are compatible, which fish should I put in my tank, answer what cyano is, etc,. and catch up with Darth and about 90% of the other members here.
 
groupergenius

groupergenius

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3144860
Let's see...
The Gallop Poll is probably the only one of the three that has any credance, and the one you listed had no poll as to whther the American public supported Bush's war in Iraq.
The FoxNews Poll is a waste of space. Any poll they've ever conducted is so far to the right, it isn't worth believing.
The ABCNews Poll? Ehat was conducted with a whopping total of 510 adults. WOW! Now that's a accurate assessment of what 260 MILLION peoiple think.

Try again...
As said...do a lil' research yourself and show us how America DIDN'T want to go in.....and remember time frame.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/3144836
Journey's seat will still be here when he gets back. It is unfair to hold a one sided argument against ANYONE when that person is not here to defend themselves.
How do you know he's coming back? As far as you know, he's lost all interest in the saltwater hobby, or is hanging out in some mission in Australia.
The only reason I even mentioned journey's name regarding this topic is because he was one of the most adamant about our cause in Iraq. Trust me, there's plenty of active posters that currently participate in this forum that will carry on journey's tradition. If you prefer, I'll keep my comments directed towards them (unless of course journey does reappear, like the phantom WMD's in Iraq).
 
groupergenius

groupergenius

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3144862
I think I've explained that one to ad nauseum. If you'd like, I can go respond to a couple hundred posts about ich, hair algae, what kind of fish are compatible, which fish should I put in my tank, answer what cyano is, etc,. and catch up with Darth and about 90% of the other members here.


Why are you still allowed to participate on a forum you don't contribute to?
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
http:///forum/post/3144867
As said...do a lil' research yourself and show us how America DIDN'T want to go in.....and remember time frame.
But why should I? You're doing such a great job for me.

I like your little reference about 'timeframe'. Maybe I should grab the poll counts from the number of Americans who approved of the Iraq War AFTER we got rid of Sadaam, and realized we were duped by Bush when no WMD's were found. Think they'd be as slanted as the one's prior to us going in?
 
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