stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2992402
Give me a break. So someone like reefraff who carries his gun wherever he goes is an exception? You actually want to say that all those instances were done with illegal weapons? Since you are such a pro advocate on this issue, I imagine you carry a gun in your car. Is yours illegal? Typical conservative. Proved wrong and tries to twist the info to justify their position.
I have no problems with gun ownership. I have no problems with someone carrying a concealed weapon, IF they have a justification for doing so -- live in a HIGH crime area, employed in a high risk position (carrying money, private detective, etc.). However, these individuals should be required to go through a rigorous firearm training class that includes real-life scenarios. They should also have psychological profiles and evaluations performed to verify their mental stability. I do have a problem with Joe Blow carrying around a gun because he/she is living a life of paranoia thinking they're going to be attacked around every corner. You have no clue what their mental stability is, and whether they can 'crack' at any time. Look at reefraff. He gets into some altercation on the road, and his solution is to wave a gun in the air, broadcasting his intentions to use it. One wrong action from any of those kids, and one of them would've been dead. You gonna tell me that's justified? He validates it with his '2nd Amendment rant', but just look at how dangerous this situation was. And the idiocy of it all is these kids could have very well had their own gun. Then what? Look at the news articles I posted, and that'll tell you 'The rest of the story'. While you're looking at them, think whether the person with the gun was prosecuted for murder or not. A rational person would know the correct answer.
You want to own a gun for personal protection? Got no problem with it. But that protection should be limited to your place of residence. Ordinary citizens who walk around with a gun under their clothes, or in their car, are ticking time bombs. Yea, you may actually have that rare occassion where you encounter a situation where it's justified to use that weapon to protect yourself. But there's also those occassions where something may just set you off, and your abilty to have a deadly weapon in those situations could mean death for someone when it shouldn't have. Road rage incidents are a prime example. If no one were allowed to carry firearms in their car, you would rarely hear of a death occurring because of a road rage incident. Sure a vehicle could be used just as easily, but rationally how many road rage incidents have you seen where someone would risk damaging their car because they got cut off, or harrassed about a sticker on their car? Would you intentionally hit someone knowing that person would report you to the police, and you'd pay enourmous fines for Hit And Run, jailed for vehicular assault, and lose you license and insurance? Even if they hit your car, you're less likely to be critically injured, as compared to being shot.
Well 90% of people don't have a CHL in texas. So there is a good chance that none of those situations were legally carrying... Plus the crime rate among legal carriers is EXTREEMLY low. Compared to the state average... Plus come on, with the agenda of the media. Wouldn't you think they'd jump on a legally carrying person going nuts...
http:///forum/post/2992402
Give me a break. So someone like reefraff who carries his gun wherever he goes is an exception? You actually want to say that all those instances were done with illegal weapons? Since you are such a pro advocate on this issue, I imagine you carry a gun in your car. Is yours illegal? Typical conservative. Proved wrong and tries to twist the info to justify their position.
I have no problems with gun ownership. I have no problems with someone carrying a concealed weapon, IF they have a justification for doing so -- live in a HIGH crime area, employed in a high risk position (carrying money, private detective, etc.). However, these individuals should be required to go through a rigorous firearm training class that includes real-life scenarios. They should also have psychological profiles and evaluations performed to verify their mental stability. I do have a problem with Joe Blow carrying around a gun because he/she is living a life of paranoia thinking they're going to be attacked around every corner. You have no clue what their mental stability is, and whether they can 'crack' at any time. Look at reefraff. He gets into some altercation on the road, and his solution is to wave a gun in the air, broadcasting his intentions to use it. One wrong action from any of those kids, and one of them would've been dead. You gonna tell me that's justified? He validates it with his '2nd Amendment rant', but just look at how dangerous this situation was. And the idiocy of it all is these kids could have very well had their own gun. Then what? Look at the news articles I posted, and that'll tell you 'The rest of the story'. While you're looking at them, think whether the person with the gun was prosecuted for murder or not. A rational person would know the correct answer.
You want to own a gun for personal protection? Got no problem with it. But that protection should be limited to your place of residence. Ordinary citizens who walk around with a gun under their clothes, or in their car, are ticking time bombs. Yea, you may actually have that rare occassion where you encounter a situation where it's justified to use that weapon to protect yourself. But there's also those occassions where something may just set you off, and your abilty to have a deadly weapon in those situations could mean death for someone when it shouldn't have. Road rage incidents are a prime example. If no one were allowed to carry firearms in their car, you would rarely hear of a death occurring because of a road rage incident. Sure a vehicle could be used just as easily, but rationally how many road rage incidents have you seen where someone would risk damaging their car because they got cut off, or harrassed about a sticker on their car? Would you intentionally hit someone knowing that person would report you to the police, and you'd pay enourmous fines for Hit And Run, jailed for vehicular assault, and lose you license and insurance? Even if they hit your car, you're less likely to be critically injured, as compared to being shot.
Well 90% of people don't have a CHL in texas. So there is a good chance that none of those situations were legally carrying... Plus the crime rate among legal carriers is EXTREEMLY low. Compared to the state average... Plus come on, with the agenda of the media. Wouldn't you think they'd jump on a legally carrying person going nuts...
