Your opinions on opening a store

slick

Active Member
I know this has been discussed before and I can't seem to find any thread's on it. I'm playing around with the idea of opening my own pet store. Here is the situation. I live in Iowa so there aren't a whole lot of saltwater fish stores around. One real nice one about 30-35 min away. There is one small pet store in my town but the guy that owns it is, well lets say not very well liked. So I beleive it would be very possible to get enough business. Now here are a few ?'s. Do I make it just a fish store with fresh and salt water fish, or do I have other stuff too like dog and cat food, shampoo and med's that sort of thing? Or Do I not even bother trying to start something like that? I know there are members here who have owned, or still own this type of store, and I would like their opinions along with everyone elses. Thaks
 

ophiura

Active Member
That is where your business plan has to come in. If there are not enough hobbyists in your area, you can't do only saltwater, or SW/FW but may have to branch out. How close is the nearest *****/petsmart or other big chain?
Do you have a local reef club?
You might also be able to consider a small scale garage business instead of full blown if you just want to provide saltwater stuff.
 

ctgretzky9

Member
Kudos to you! I love entrepreneurs!
First, I would try and do some research if possible...try and find out if there are any reef clubs near you at all. Pick their brains. Talk to the guy who "no one likes" and without giving it away what you want to do, find out how business is. I bet f you chat with him, you'll get an idea of what to do/not. Ask him about the aquarium aspect ..."A lot of people coming in for stuff..." kinda questioning.
Marketing is going to be super important! This is why businesses succeed or fail. Feel free to email me if you decide to open...ill help you get started for no charge...give you some pointers on how to get your name out there for cheap :)
As far as what to carry, that is tough. It is easy to say just do aquariums. Or to make it very specific such as marine only. The local market drives your answer. As well as how much $ you want to invest to start up. My take would be to make it more of an exotic pet store. You wont compete too much for dog and cat stuff, people can buy that stuff for cheap at the big stores or online, or even supermarkets.
Exotic pets wil allow youto basicall y order the same stuff as aquariums-in other words, turtles, lizards, and other creatures like that use many of the same prodcuts like aquariums anyway, allowing you to purchase things in bigger bulk, but offer more variety anyway...get it? Maybe add some birds, hamsters...things people can easily afford as well.
Feel free to post more q's Ill help you.
 

slick

Active Member
ophiura, the closest big name chain pet store is about 40-45 min from here, and none of them around here carry sw stuff. If they do it's nothing special.
I'm not sure on the reef club thing, I'll have to check around. Where would I find that kind of info?
ctgretzky9, you make a lot of good points there. I was planning on trying to "dig" some info out of the guy here in town. I do know that the only sw place thats near here is busy almost everytime I go there. I also wanted to thank you for offering your help on marketing. I checked out your profile and see thats what you do for a living. My sis is also into marketing & addvertising so that would be great.
So now I guess I need to figure out if there are any reef clubs near here. What if thier aren't? I already know there are a lot of people that buy that stuff based on the other stores business. Any other ideas on what some of my other first steps should be?
Thanks
 

dragonboy

Active Member
Probably the main thing would be how many people are interested in this hobby in your area. I was going to do this myself but there are a lot of competition in my area. You can just try it out first by doing it at home to test it out first before you open up a store to see how the market is.
 

bang guy

Moderator
I'm considering opening a fish store myself. :D
Looking at Dog & Cat food it seems to take up a ton of space and the markup has to be small to remain competitive. So, if space is limited then Dog & Cat stuff is out. If there's floor space then consider it because it will bring customers through the door.
 

slick

Active Member
Yeah that is a variable that I'll have to take into account. I haven't looked around yet but my plan is to find a med to small space in a good location to "set up shop". I will prob not start out with dog and cat food but if I start taking buisness from the crappy store, I'll add it to draw more people.
 

dskidmore

Active Member
Your opening selection may depend on your startup budget as much as your market. If there is a market for selling dog food locally, do you have enough startup money to have a good selection of products for saltwater, freshwater, cats, dogs, and birds, or do you only have enough money to do one thing well? You can always expand later if there seems to be a market for it, and you've sold enough to earn back your startup money. I would definately do freshwater as well as saltwater. Most of the equiptment is overlap, you only need to increase your live fish/plants area. (If you're even doing live animals in the beginning. A big place around here went from a garage shop to selling out to become a PetSmart distribution center without ever having sold live animals.)
 

slick

Active Member
Well I should have about 15K in cash to start up. That is without taking any kind of a loan. That doesn't really help me as far as what I could buy because I don't know what kind of discount I would get for being a dealer.
 

dskidmore

Active Member
Also don't forget operating expenses for your first three months: Store rent, employee pay, aquarium maintenance, electricity...
 

am3gross05

Member
i would try to maybe set up accounts first where maybe you can go in and talk to the costomer find out what the want and then do it for them for like 6 months..get them hooked and if that goes well by getting alot of accounts then open the store.
 

palumbo

Member
I strongly urge you to contact your state's Department of Employment and Economic Development and get a Guide to starting a business. I'm from MN, so the book is just called "A Guide to Starting a Business in Minnesota". I'm sure Iowa has the same deal, and if you call they will just send you the book. It is a tremendous help and gives everything from which type of small business to do(sole proprietorship, partnership, etc), wages, state taxes, etc.
I have my own little on the side business in which I clean and set up aquariums, and even for something so simple I had a lot of help from the guide. I am also going to school for business/marketing and hope to open a fish store of my own one day.
Entrepreneurs rule the country!!!(literally)
:happyfish :happyfish :happyfish
 

golfish

Active Member
I was suprised by something one of the owners of a LFS told me the other day. He does both salt and fresh plus stocks high end equipment. He told me he makes most of his money from fresh water fish.
 

ctgretzky9

Member
Originally Posted by slick
ophiura, the closest big name chain pet store is about 40-45 min from here, and none of them around here carry sw stuff. If they do it's nothing special.
I'm not sure on the reef club thing, I'll have to check around. Where would I find that kind of info?
ctgretzky9, you make a lot of good points there. I was planning on trying to "dig" some info out of the guy here in town. I do know that the only sw place thats near here is busy almost everytime I go there. I also wanted to thank you for offering your help on marketing. I checked out your profile and see thats what you do for a living. My sis is also into marketing & addvertising so that would be great.
So now I guess I need to figure out if there are any reef clubs near here. What if thier aren't? I already know there are a lot of people that buy that stuff based on the other stores business. Any other ideas on what some of my other first steps should be?
Thanks
Palumbo made an excellent point...your state will give you a guide for this. 15k is a decent start up especially if you are just renting space. I also suggest going to a bank to sit down about a small business loan. They will help you with credit lines...but be wary! The more you can start with cash only, the better and faster returns on investment you will get. Dont go crazy with a credit line, ive seen many businesses extend the profitability margins because credit does cost money.
I will assume, like any othe rbusiness, that you will get net 30 or so on your purchases from your vendors. This is when the bank will mean the most since it gives you more credibility. Your mission in that 30 days after you stock up and open is to sell at slightly smaller margins and advertise the most, so that you can pay that net 30 quickly and establish even better credit with your vendors. The first couple of months is the hardest, but if you do it right, and pre-sell the store even before it opens, you wil be fine.
I actually own my company and employ 12 people, so I know quite a bit about this subject ;-) I am also in 2 chamber of commerces and a regional business council. So I speak to entrepreneurs all day opening every kind of retail, commercial and service oriented businesses all of the time, as well as ways to bring new companies into an area and keep them there.
SIt down, and figure out your expenses before hand too. Electric for a couple of months, wages for employees (this will obviously depend on when and if you need them...), taxes, rent, and always a "screw up" amout of extra $ for the things you never even considered.
Good luck...feel free to email me or post for more help.
 

slick

Active Member
ctgretzky9, what is your email add? If you don't want to post it could you send me a email to slickdj96@hotmail.com Thanks to everyone that has helped me so far I'm sure I'll have a ton more question. Any more advice would be great
 
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