Zooxanthellae

florida joe

Well-Known Member
After reading a thread in which a hobbyist asked a question about what do corals eat and do I have to feed them. I think this information is vital
. The following information was culled from a paper I read on the subject written by an expert on corals ERIC H. BORNEMAN
Early in the life of a coral polyp, it may adapt or as some say be infected by a strain of single celled algae known as zooxanthellae. These algal cells are exceedingly small about 10,000 would fit on an area the size of a period in a printed sentence. Even a small colony of coral harbors millions of zooxanthellae.
These microscopic cells allow corals to thrive and build tremendous reef structures in nutrient starved tropical waters. Possessing chlorophyll, the zooxanthellae are able to synthesize oxygen and energy rich products using sunlight, carbon dioxide and water by means of photosytisis. The relationship is highly complex. Simply put, a basic symbiosis exists that allows the algae to exist in a stable environment with protection from predication in the open sea. The zooxanthellae also benefit from the dissolved nutrients that the polyps absorb especially nitrate and phosphate. The coral also provides ammonia from its own metabolic process to feed its algal partners.
In return the zooxanthellae nourish the polyp with the energy rich products of photosytises. This type of relationship is known as mutualism.
The presents or absence of zooxanthellae is the characteristic used to divide all corals into two groups. It is of utmost importance for the home aquarist to understand which group the corals they wish to keep fall into.
Corals are classified as being Zooxanthellae when they posses zooxanthellae in their tissues. They are also called Symbiotic corals. Azooxanthellae lack zooxanthellae and can live in darkened locations relying not on sunlight but on their ability to catch zooplankton. or to absorb nutrients from the water. Such corals are referred to as aposymbiotic.
In summery (and this is my own words) Zooxanthellae corals need not be “feed by the hobbyist” they get what they need from the proper illumination and trace elements supplied by the salt water we provide.
Azooxanthellae corals need supplementation feeding mostly zooplankton and need much less if any illumination. An important difference for the hobbyist starting their first reef system.Some hobbyists maybe able expand on the thread. I think this information is a corner stone in the maintaining of a reef tank. And the more info we get the better prepared. I can incorporate any additional information into the thread, with all due recognition.
NYCBOB adds
Many new reefers tend to overfeed or feed their corals or zoas thinking its good for them, but ended up compromising their water quality.
Spanko adds this info obtained from Hatcher, 1988
"The quality and fates of coral primary production imply that zooxanthellae provide "junk food" to their hosts, and beg the question of nutrient limitation of coral growth rates under conditions of adequate light…On present evidence it seems clear that all corals need to supplement their diet (with food) from outside the symbiosis (heterotopy) in order to meet these requirements."
please continue on to part TWO
 

pezenfuego

Active Member
Some excellent info. I had the gist of it, but never fully understood how the symbiotic relationship worked. Good Job.
Now, is it pronounced: zoh-oh-zahn-thall-ay?
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by PEZenfuego
http:///forum/post/2957554
Some excellent info. I had the gist of it, but never fully understood how the symbiotic relationship worked. Good Job.
Now, is it pronounced: zoh-oh-zahn-thall-ay?
From Webster’s dictionary ZO- A-ZAN-THE-LA
 

nycbob

Active Member
i hv the book. its great read. thanx for posting the info. many new reefers tend to overfeed or feed their corals or zoas thinking its good for them, but ended up compromising their water quality. i personally dont feed my corals al that much. maybe 3-4x a month with phytoplankton.
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by nycbob
http:///forum/post/2957636
i hv the book. its great read. thanx for posting the info. many new reefers tend to overfeed or feed their corals or zoas thinking its good for them, but ended up compromising their water quality. i personally dont feed my corals al that much. maybe 3-4x a month with phytoplankton.
thanks Bob I added a part of your post to the thread, I hope you dont mind. I want to make sure everyone gets as much info as they can and I know some hobbyists dont read every post
 

stanlalee

Active Member
In summery (and this is my own words) Zooxanthellae corals need not be “feed by the hobbyist” they get what they need from the proper illumination and trace elements supplied by the salt water we provide
the question becomes does feeding by the hobbiest help them grow faster and I think the answer is usually yes. from what I've read corals can get "up to" 90% of their nutritional needs thru photosynthesis and the rest comes from external feeding (thats not a concrete number, some may be more or less). you dont need to feed because they still get enough from the water without feeding. stony corals (sps and lps) feed alot in nature despite having the sun and should be fed ideally. I dont know about softies/leathers/polyps but I have never been concerned with feeding those.
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Stanlalee
http:///forum/post/2957671
the question becomes does feeding by the hobbiest help them grow faster and I think the answer is usually yes. from what I've read corals can get "up to" 90% of their nutritional needs thru photosynthesis and the rest comes from external feeding (thats not a concrete number, some may be more or less). you dont need to feed because they still get enough from the water without feeding. stony corals (sps and lps) feed alot in nature despite having the sun and should be fed ideally. I dont know about softies/leathers/polyps but I have never been concerned with feeding those.
Stanlalee can you post something to the effect. “ Supplementation to zooxanthellae corals help them grow faster as illustrated by..” I think it will be an important part of this ever expanding thread
 

spanko

Active Member
How about this Joe;
"The quality and fates of coral primary production imply that zooxanthellae provide "junk food" to their hosts, and beg the question of nutrient limitation of coral growth rates under conditions of adequate light…On present evidence it seems clear that all corals need to supplement their diet (with food) from outside the symbiosis (heterotrophy) in order to meet these requirements."
Hatcher, 1988
Also for those interested type or copy this to a google search.
coralmania with eric borneman reef food
 

florida joe

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/2957722
How about this Joe;
"The quality and fates of coral primary production imply that zooxanthellae provide "junk food" to their hosts, and beg the question of nutrient limitation of coral growth rates under conditions of adequate light…On present evidence it seems clear that all corals need to supplement their diet (with food) from outside the symbiosis (heterotrophy) in order to meet these requirements."
Hatcher, 1988

What ????
added to the thread
 

stanlalee

Active Member
all are excerpts from Eric Borneman's "the Foods of Reefs" article from RK magazine.
in regards to the "junk food" produced by zooxanthellae:
Unfortunately, zooxanthellae don’t make much else besides sugar. The coral squeezes out what it can, but not much more ever results. In particular, nitrogen, once again, is a problem. It seems everyone on the reef is always scrambling for nitrogen, the substance needed to produce protein; proteins required for nematocysts, vitamins, tissue maintenance, injury repair, cell division, growth, gamete production, even the very toxins used to paralyze prey. Proteins are the ticket to growth and reproduction in zooxanthellae, as well as for coral polyps. Thus, it may come as little surprise that this great sugar fix provided by symbiotic algae comes up rather nutritionally short in the course of coral nutrition.To survive and, hopefully, thrive, corals need more than light.
They need to swallow more than their symbiotic zooxanthellae.

They are able to provide themselves with nutrition from the photosynthetic products (photosynthate) of their zooxanthellae, although the majority of this material is carbon rich and nitrogen poor. As such, it has been described as "junk food," providing the quick energy needed for their respiration and much of the excess carbon lost as mucus"


The notion that corals are able to exist without feeding, or by light only, is incorrect in all cases, with different species relying to varying degrees on energy acquisition from multiple sources (light, zooplankton, etc.).
regarding SPS and feeding since many people seem to think they dont need feeding but LPS need a bunch of feeding
One of the greatest myths among reefkeepers is that "SPS" corals depend mostly on light, and require less food than "LPS" corals. This is entirely untrue. As an example, consider the data from Sebens (1997) below (Figure 2). This graph shows the capture rate of an equivalent biomass of two corals, the large-polyped Montastraea cavernosa and the very small-polyped Madracis mirabilis. For those unfamiliar with Madracis, it is related to and somewhat resembles Pocillopora and Stylophora. The capture rate of the small polyped coral was 36 times greater than the large-polyped coral! Furthermore, M. cavernosa has been shown in other studies to be a voracious zooplanktivore
as for feeding and growth
Many other studies confirm the predatory abilities and requirements of "SPS" corals. It should not be surprising given the fast growth rate and fecundity of many small polyped species. In other words, more growth and reproduction requires more energy, especially nitrogen for tissue growth. The difference, if one exists between "SPS" and "LPS" corals, lies primarily in the size of the food captured. Most of the prey of small polyped corals may just be too small to see. Aquarists have a tendency to be strongly visual, and so if gross observations don't indicate that a coral is consuming food offered to it, they wrongfully assume the coral must not need to be fed

Aquarists hinge their belief that some bottle of trace elements or some new color temperature light bulb will increase the health and growth of their corals, despite scanty or non-existent evidence of it being true. Of all the many things that can potentially increase respiration, photosynthesis, and calcification - and have been show again and again to do so absolutely- feeding and water flow are the major players
. Light, of course, is critically important as well, but aquarists by and large can and do provide enough quantity and quality of light for corals.
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2957516
After reading a thread in which a hobbyist asked a question about what do corals eat and do I have to feed them. I think this information is vital
. The following information was culled from a paper I read on the subject written by an expert on corals ERIC H. BORNEMAN
Early in the life of a coral polyp, it may adapt or as some say be infected by a strain of single celled algae known as zooxanthellae. These algal cells are exceedingly small about 10,000 would fit on an area the size of a period in a printed sentence. Even a small colony of coral harbors millions of zooxanthellae.
These microscopic cells allow corals to thrive and build tremendous reef structures in nutrient starved tropical waters. Possessing chlorophyll, the zooxanthellae are able to synthesize oxygen and energy rich products using sunlight, carbon dioxide and water by means of photosytisis. The relationship is highly complex. Simply put, a basic symbiosis exists that allows the algae to exist in a stable environment with protection from predication in the open sea. The zooxanthellae also benefit from the dissolved nutrients that the polyps absorb especially nitrate and phosphate. The coral also provides ammonia from its own metabolic process to feed its algal partners.
In return the zooxanthellae nourish the polyp with the energy rich products of photosytises. This type of relationship is known as mutualism.
The presents or absence of zooxanthellae is the characteristic used to divide all corals into two groups. It is of utmost importance for the home aquarist to understand which group the corals they wish to keep fall into.
Corals are classified as being Zooxanthellae when they posses zooxanthellae in their tissues. They are also called Symbiotic corals. Azooxanthellae lack zooxanthellae and can live in darkened locations relying not on sunlight but on their ability to catch zooplankton. or to absorb nutrients from the water. Such corals are referred to as aposymbiotic.
In summery (and this is my own words) Zooxanthellae corals need not be “feed by the hobbyist” they get what they need from the proper illumination and trace elements supplied by the salt water we provide.
Azooxanthellae corals need supplementation feeding mostly zooplankton and need much less if any illumination. An important difference for the hobbyist starting their first reef system.Some hobbyists maybe able expand on the thread. I think this information is a corner stone in the maintaining of a reef tank. And the more info we get the better prepared. I can incorporate any additional information into the thread, with all due recognition.
NYCBOB adds
Many new reefers tend to overfeed or feed their corals or zoas thinking its good for them, but ended up compromising their water quality.
Spanko adds this info obtained from Hatcher, 1988
"The quality and fates of coral primary production imply that zooxanthellae provide "junk food" to their hosts, and beg the question of nutrient limitation of coral growth rates under conditions of adequate light…On present evidence it seems clear that all corals need to supplement their diet (with food) from outside the symbiosis (heterotopy) in order to meet these requirements."
Please continue on to part TWO
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Please refer to part one
Added by
Stanlalee culled from Eric Borneman's "the Foods of Reefs" article from RK magazine.
Unfortunately, zooxanthellae don’t make much else besides sugar. The coral squeezes out what it can, but not much more ever results. In particular, nitrogen, once again, is a problem. It seems everyone on the reef is always scrambling for nitrogen, the substance needed to produce protein; proteins required for nematocysts, vitamins, tissue maintenance, injury repair, cell division, growth, gamete production, even the very toxins used to paralyze prey. Proteins are the ticket to growth and reproduction in zooxanthellae, as well as for coral polyps. Thus, it may come as little surprise that this great sugar fix provided by symbiotic algae comes up rather nutritionally short in the course of coral nutrition.To survive and, hopefully, thrive, corals need more than light. They need to swallow more than their symbiotic zooxanthellae.
They are able to provide themselves with nutrition from the photosynthetic products (photosynthate) of their zooxanthellae, although the majority of this material is carbon rich and nitrogen poor. As such, it has been described as "junk food," providing the quick energy needed for their respiration and much of the excess carbon lost as mucus"
The notion that corals are able to exist without feeding, or by light only, is incorrect in all cases, with different species relying to varying degrees on energy acquisition from multiple sources (light, zooplankton, etc.).
regarding SPS and feeding since many people seem to think they dont need feeding but LPS need a bunch of feeding
One of the greatest myths among reefkeepers is that "SPS" corals depend mostly on light, and require less food than "LPS" corals. This is entirely untrue. As an example, consider the data from Sebens (1997) below (Figure 2). This graph shows the capture rate of an equivalent biomass of two corals, the large-polyped Montastraea cavernosa and the very small-polyped Madracis mirabilis. For those unfamiliar with Madracis, it is related to and somewhat resembles Pocillopora and Stylophora. The capture rate of the small polyped coral was 36 times greater than the large-polyped coral! Furthermore, M. cavernosa has been shown in other studies to be a voracious zooplanktivore
Many other studies confirm the predatory abilities and requirements of "SPS" corals. It should not be surprising given the fast growth rate and fecundity of many small polyped species. In other words, more growth and reproduction requires more energy, especially nitrogen for tissue growth. The difference, if one exists between "SPS" and "LPS" corals, lies primarily in the size of the food captured. Most of the prey of small polyped corals may just be too small to see. Aquarists have a tendency to be strongly visual, and so if gross observations don't indicate that a coral is consuming food offered to it, they wrongfully assume the coral must not need to be fed
Aquarists hinge their belief that some bottle of trace elements or some new color temperature light bulb will increase the health and growth of their corals, despite scanty or non-existent evidence of it being true. Of all the many things that can potentially increase respiration, photosynthesis, and calcification - and have been show again and again to do so absolutely- feeding and water flow are the major players. Light, of course, is critically important as well, but aquarists by and large can and do provide enough quantity and quality of light for corals.
 

nycbob

Active Member
one should definitely feed their corals if his/her system barely has any fish. imo, feeding isnt as important if one has plenty of fish to produce feces for the coral to eat or absorb. once again, thanx for posting part 2.
 

d-man

Member
my question is can we connect the colors of the zooxanthellae to the colors in the light to help make tanks for specific colored coral to help increase the zooxanthellae and there for help the over all color of the coal. I know it happens, but I don't know why what zooxanthellae likes what light.
 

spanko

Active Member
Originally Posted by nycbob
http:///forum/post/2957636
i hv the book. its great read. thanx for posting the info. many new reefers tend to overfeed or feed their corals or zoas thinking its good for them, but ended up compromising their water quality. i personally dont feed my corals al that much. maybe 3-4x a month with phytoplankton.
I was under the understanding that the coral do not eat phyto but instead feed on zooplankton. zooplankton being drifting animals and phytoplankton being drifting algaes.
 

spanko

Active Member
Originally Posted by d-man
http:///forum/post/3123391
my question is can we connect the colors of the zooxanthellae to the colors in the light to help make tanks for specific colored coral to help increase the zooxanthellae and there for help the over all color of the coal. I know it happens, but I don't know why what zooxanthellae likes what light.
Some of you may know or have run across Mike G. screename greenbeen36191, a marine biologist from another site. I remember reading this explanation
"Coloration is a lot more complicated than just the amount of zooxanthellae present. It also has a lot to do with where the zooxanthellae are in relation to the pigment layer, and how dense the pigment layer is. In the deep water the pigments of the coral would likely be placed behind the zooxanthellae to reflect the available light back onto the algae. The color of the pigments is mostly blocked by the zooxanthellae, so you would see a brown coral. When you bring it into brighter light the pigments would probably be moved in front of the zooxanthellae to act as a sunscreen. You would see more of the pigments than the zooxanthellae, therefore a colorful coral. Of course this isn't always the case.
Yes, you could get a bloom of algae that turns a coral brown by giving it more light in a favorable spectrum, but more likely you'll see the opposite reaction. If you're in a nutrient limited environment (eg. a reef), as the zoox increase their efficiency, the less the environment can support.
Different lights put out different amounts of UV, which affects the level of the protective pigmentation. Higher UV (which is closer to the blue end of the spectrum) should shift things towards the production of more coral pigments. The PAR of the lights affects zooxanthellae abundance, with more PAR usually giving more zoox (though in very low nutrient situations you could get the opposite).
Of course, a large part of the difference is in perception. The pigments in the zooxanthellae reflect mostly reds and yellows, while the most common coral pigments reflect mostly green and blue. If you use a light with a lot of the red-yellow end of the spectrum it tends to highlight the zooxanthellae. Likewise, if you use a bluer bulb it tends to highlight the coral pigments. Bluer light also activates the flourescent proteins that aren't affected by longer wavelengths."
 
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