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sounds good..I have some time. Talked to dark4p about rock. He has a very fair deal and said he would do an initial curing of the rock for me and that will take a few weeks. And still waiting for the cabinet anyway. Also am talking to them about the hood..may get that taller for MH lighting.

For those of you that have larger tanks..in my case a 180. How did you get your flows up to the 30x area. The return will be 1000 roughly...so what did you use for the other 4400 or so. Squidd mentioned oceansmotions or tunze pumps. Looks like I would be spending 700 to 800 for those...

those ocean motions look cool. I don't get how they work though. Do the return pumps go to them? do you hook up revolutions to the output of the 4ways? edit: ahh ..i see..an external pump. What is PH look?

do you think I could call you or you call me? I could hash this out really fast with you. I am actually talking to the fish store friday ..they have the tank in but will drill it etc if i need. The cabinet should be on way. So kinda reaching the point of I need to decide what I am going to...

I am going with reef, clams and coral. Some reef friendly fish.

hmm..okay..what about using a scwd. But those wouldn't handle a mag24 would they? In another thread I am hoping that squidd answers..I thought maybe I could use a mag18 into a scwd and then 4-6 powerheads in addition. thoughts?

as I think about it maybe it would be better to go to using a Mag 18 as the return pump going into a SCWD. Would be quite a bit cheaper. Then 4 to 6 maxijet 1200 powerheads. HELP :)

are you saying that the two 9.5's might be too small?

1. Seaswirls :) 2. I have no preference on the return pump being one or two. I was thinking that way if I have a pump go down I still have some flow till it is fixed. 3. So just the two types of lights..the actinic and the MH. The MH have to stretch across the whole length of the tank and...

Thanks :) I am looking at getting a 180gallon tank. So far I have decided on using a precision Marine bullet 2 with a mag 18 pump. I am going to use two Mag 9.5 return pumps. I think am going to use 2 3/4 inch seasprays with those pumps. I also think I am going to go with 4 1200 powerheads...

Okay you guys have fed me much info and am aborbing it as fast as i can. In reading reefcorner I have realized I am going to spend much more than I thought but haven't been dissuaded yet. (hmm think that is a word) I have decided a good size would be 180 gallons. specifically because it is 6'...

reading the other info. some great info here..thanks again.

so is it common for the sump/refuge to be the same tank? Thanks for the link..that seems to be some good reading..checking it out now.

Any advice on lighting would be appreciated ...another thing I didn't worry about in a freshwater tank.

I have had fresh water aquariums since I was a little kid (35now). Even raised fish for a while to sell back to local stores. I have decided recently to get back into an aquarium. I want to go with a reef tank. I have a general idea of what to do but want advice from people that have...

do you still have tank..is the cabinet lighter brown or darker brown. thanks