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  1. john f

    Why not use Cupramine for QT?

    "Dr. Noga, for example list copper as 9th most effective treatment for gill flukes." Is this freshwater dactylogyrus or the saltwater flukes? Just to be clear I am NOT using copper to treat gill flukes. My point was when using copper in quarantine more diseases can be controlled/eliminated...
  2. john f

    Why not use Cupramine for QT?

    Actually, I just found an article from the University of Florida Agricultural extension service. <a href="http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu//pdffiles/FA/FA03300.pdf" target="_blank">http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu//pdffiles/FA/FA03300.pdf</a> Basically they state copper can be used to control marine monogenean...
  3. john f

    Why not use Cupramine for QT?

    "BTW, copper does not cure gill flukes" Do we know this for sure? Or are there just no studies to prove it? I have a hard time believing copper kills every invertebrate, snails, worms, sand bed infauna and corals.............but the small parasitic worms can survive it. John
  4. john f

    Why not use Cupramine for QT?

    Amyloodinium was confirmed by the Aquatic Medicine Vet. for the University of Florida. John
  5. john f

    Cupramine dosing

    Thanks alot Terry
  6. john f

    Cupramine dosing

    Me too. I was the guy that posted over at reefcentral about it. It would be nice if the product labeling was a little better. John
  7. john f

    Cupramine dosing

    I never even saw external symptoms when I had amyloodinium. The fish just started breathing hard......then died. How 'bout Terry B. Is this how you dose the cupramine as well? John
  8. john f

    Cupramine dosing

    Well then it's pretty useless to treat amyloodinium per the Cupramine instructions. In the 48 hours it takes to achieve therapuetic levels, the fish are already dead. John
  9. john f

    Why not use Cupramine for QT?

    Wow, where do you have the 6-10 q tanks set up? I have a 3800 square foot house and I don't have room for that. Well, not unless I convert all the spare bedrooms to fishrooms. I'm pretty sure the wife would not go for that. I'm sorry I assumed you must be quarantining those fish to get paid...
  10. john f

    Cupramine dosing

    On the label it says to add basically 1/2 dose and then redose in 48 hours. Is this how you guys do it? Why not test the next day and adjust accordingly? John
  11. john f

    Why not use Cupramine for QT?

    "and I have 6 quarantine/holding tanks running with fish (some quite rare species as well), and am about to up that to 10 with 4 more 55's" I guess it must be nice to do this for a living. Us mere mortals have other jobs and don't have a store/holding facility to do this. Want to Q some fish for...
  12. john f

    Why not use Cupramine for QT?

    Ed, The display tank is a 1000 gallon reef. I plan on having about 40 fish in it. You really think the way to do it is quarantine 1 fish at a time for 3-4 weeks? At that rate it will take 4 years to stock the tank. It's also completly impracticle. If I want a group of anthias for example, they...
  13. john f

    Why not use Cupramine for QT?

    "I do find that losing 7 fish to velvet (independently contracted, and not from same infection in the same tank) to be highly unusual." Ever had it? I lost the first 5 all at once. They were all I had in the Q tank and I thought that I had killed them with ammonia as I had a small spike when I...
  14. john f

    Why not use Cupramine for QT?

    Well..............this should start WWIII. I have been reading every post on the net I could find and following all of the in vogue advice. So I have started quarantine for my 1000 reef with a 55 gallon tank running hyposalinity. So far I have had 7 fish die due to amyloodinium and at least 1...
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