10 Degrees In Southern Arizona-Global Whating Again?

[darthtang aw]

I guess you never bothered to learn what the Democrats tried to pull in Florida. If it was just looking at ballots they wouldn't have went to court to get the rules changed after the fact.
Why does this surprise you? This is the guy that still hasn't read any of the healthcare bill...

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345321
I guess you never bothered to learn what the Democrats tried to pull in Florida. If it was just looking at ballots they wouldn't have went to court to get the rules changed after the fact.
Why does this surprise you? This is the guy that still hasn't read any of the healthcare bill...
Neither have the majority of idiots who voted for it.

 

[darthtang aw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345332
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345321
I guess you never bothered to learn what the Democrats tried to pull in Florida. If it was just looking at ballots they wouldn't have went to court to get the rules changed after the fact.
Why does this surprise you? This is the guy that still hasn't read any of the healthcare bill...
Neither have the majority of idiots who voted for it.
So Bionic would fit right in is what you are saying?
Darth (Bionicarm 2012) Tang

 

[bionicarm]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345321
I guess you never bothered to learn what the Democrats tried to pull in Florida. If it was just looking at ballots they wouldn't have went to court to get the rules changed after the fact.
Why does this surprise you? This is the guy that still hasn't read any of the healthcare bill...
Have you read the healthcare bill? I actually just found a site that gives specific bullet points as to what will be implmented when. I honestly don't see any negative points that were listed except for the "everyone will have to have some form of insurance" in 2014.

 

[deejeff442]

so how will the illegals get it?will they be turned away at the hospital?my wife works for a county hospital and 90% of the people having babies there give fake id's.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345462
so how will the illegals get it?will they be turned away at the hospital?my wife works for a county hospital and 90% of the people having babies there give fake id's.
The new bill specifically states it will not cover "non US citizens". There's nothing the Feds can do if illegals are using fake ID's to get free healthcare. You want to fix that? It's called a National ID Card similar to one of those new Passort Cards. If you want any kind of service, you have to show that card. Of course the conservatives will say that reeks of Big Brother Government Oversight.

 

[deejeff442]

maybe but the libs will call it discrimination.its a shame what the leaders of the country have done .and i dont mean just lately ,i mean for the last 20 years.it just keeps getting worse on both side.the problem is these politician trying not to hurt anyones feelings for votes.lawsuit for discrimination over crap thats all it is.

 

[beth]

Truth is, that global warming reached its height during the age of dinosaurs. The world was a lush and thriving place. The problem is, that for humans, who mostly live near natural water sources, we have established our largest populations near water. When the earth warms, ice melts, and the coasts, where very large human populations exist, will be covered.
Its inevitable that this will happen, just as the planet will experience ice ages again, greatly reducing food supplies. We can theorize the causes, even blame ourselves, and blame the cows too til we are blue....these events will still happen again regardless of blame or no-blame.
There's not a dang thing we can do about (with current technology at least).

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345479
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Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345462
so how will the illegals get it?will they be turned away at the hospital?my wife works for a county hospital and 90% of the people having babies there give fake id's.
The new bill specifically states it will not cover "non US citizens". There's nothing the Feds can do if illegals are using fake ID's to get free healthcare. You want to fix that? It's called a National ID Card similar to one of those new Passort Cards. If you want any kind of service, you have to show that card. Of course the conservatives will say that reeks of Big Brother Government Oversight
Just cut off all government services to illegals and the problem will solve itself.

 

[reefraff]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beth http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345502
Truth is, that global warming reached its height during the age of dinosaurs. The world was a lush and thriving place. The problem is, that for humans, who mostly live near natural water sources, we have established our largest populations near water. When the earth warms, ice melts, and the coasts, where very large human populations exist, will be covered.
Its inevitable that this will happen, just as the planet will experience ice ages again, greatly reducing food supplies. We can theorize the causes, even blame ourselves, and blame the cows too til we are blue....these events will still happen again regardless of blame or no-blame.
There's not a dang thing we can do about (with current technology at least).
While CO2 has increased like 30% since the beginning of the industrial revolution methane has increased about 150% AND it is about 20 times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2. Yet they only want to regulate CO2. Could that be because the global socialist know that regulating methane would effect 3rd world countries far more than the US? And if CO2 is SO NASTY why cap and trade rather than just require a reduction in output? This whole man caused warming scam is the greatest hoax in the history of human kind.

 

[bang guy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345555
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beth http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345502
Truth is, that global warming reached its height during the age of dinosaurs. The world was a lush and thriving place. The problem is, that for humans, who mostly live near natural water sources, we have established our largest populations near water. When the earth warms, ice melts, and the coasts, where very large human populations exist, will be covered.
Its inevitable that this will happen, just as the planet will experience ice ages again, greatly reducing food supplies. We can theorize the causes, even blame ourselves, and blame the cows too til we are blue....these events will still happen again regardless of blame or no-blame.
There's not a dang thing we can do about (with current technology at least).
While CO2 has increased like 30% since the beginning of the industrial revolution methane has increased about 150% AND it is about 20 times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2. Yet they only want to regulate CO2. Could that be because the global socialist know that regulating methane would effect 3rd world countries far more than the US? And if CO2 is SO NASTY why cap and trade rather than just require a reduction in output? This whole man caused warming scam is the greatest hoax in the history of human kind.
I thought you've been arguing that CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas. What changed your mind?

 

[fishtaco]

Quote:
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345555
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beth http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345502
Truth is, that global warming reached its height during the age of dinosaurs. The world was a lush and thriving place. The problem is, that for humans, who mostly live near natural water sources, we have established our largest populations near water. When the earth warms, ice melts, and the coasts, where very large human populations exist, will be covered.
Its inevitable that this will happen, just as the planet will experience ice ages again, greatly reducing food supplies. We can theorize the causes, even blame ourselves, and blame the cows too til we are blue....these events will still happen again regardless of blame or no-blame.
There's not a dang thing we can do about (with current technology at least).
While CO2 has increased like 30% since the beginning of the industrial revolution methane has increased about 150% AND it is about 20 times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2. Yet they only want to regulate CO2. Could that be because the global socialist know that regulating methane would effect 3rd world countries far more than the US? And if CO2 is SO NASTY why cap and trade rather than just require a reduction in output? This whole man caused warming scam is the greatest hoax in the history of human kind.
We are still killing the planet regardless, I did get a chuckle reading Beth's post though since according to a whole lot of conservatives man and dinosaurs co-existed.

I am also wondering why you guys are always hating on Al Gore, he is doing nothing more than making money by taking advantage of the free market and peoples stupidity, business as usual, just insert the word global warming instead of Wall St.
Fishtaco

 

[reefraff]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345576
Quote:
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345555
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beth http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345502
Truth is, that global warming reached its height during the age of dinosaurs. The world was a lush and thriving place. The problem is, that for humans, who mostly live near natural water sources, we have established our largest populations near water. When the earth warms, ice melts, and the coasts, where very large human populations exist, will be covered.
Its inevitable that this will happen, just as the planet will experience ice ages again, greatly reducing food supplies. We can theorize the causes, even blame ourselves, and blame the cows too til we are blue....these events will still happen again regardless of blame or no-blame.
There's not a dang thing we can do about (with current technology at least).
While CO2 has increased like 30% since the beginning of the industrial revolution methane has increased about 150% AND it is about 20 times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2. Yet they only want to regulate CO2. Could that be because the global socialist know that regulating methane would effect 3rd world countries far more than the US? And if CO2 is SO NASTY why cap and trade rather than just require a reduction in output? This whole man caused warming scam is the greatest hoax in the history of human kind.
I thought you've been arguing that CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas. What changed your mind?
Where did I say that??? I said that if the higher concentration trapped more infrared radiation that would normally leave the atmosphere it also blocks more from the sun so it's a zero gain.

 

[stdreb27]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345582
Quote:
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345555
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beth http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345502
Truth is, that global warming reached its height during the age of dinosaurs. The world was a lush and thriving place. The problem is, that for humans, who mostly live near natural water sources, we have established our largest populations near water. When the earth warms, ice melts, and the coasts, where very large human populations exist, will be covered.
Its inevitable that this will happen, just as the planet will experience ice ages again, greatly reducing food supplies. We can theorize the causes, even blame ourselves, and blame the cows too til we are blue....these events will still happen again regardless of blame or no-blame.
There's not a dang thing we can do about (with current technology at least).
While CO2 has increased like 30% since the beginning of the industrial revolution methane has increased about 150% AND it is about 20 times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2. Yet they only want to regulate CO2. Could that be because the global socialist know that regulating methane would effect 3rd world countries far more than the US? And if CO2 is SO NASTY why cap and trade rather than just require a reduction in output? This whole man caused warming scam is the greatest hoax in the history of human kind.
We are still killing the planet regardless, I did get a chuckle reading Beth's post though since according to a whole lot of conservatives man and dinosaurs co-existed.

I am also wondering why you guys are always hating on Al Gore, he is doing nothing more than making money by taking advantage of the free market and peoples stupidity, business as usual, just insert the word global warming instead of Wall St.
Fishtaco
Well your supposed paradox doesn't quite work because for the uncle ape, granola munching, fruit cake, happy meal banners think, the indigenous humans were one with nature, and that is pretty much all that the dinosaur human coexisting crowd think was around. Some nomadic tribes of basically for lack of a better term Indians.

 

[reefraff]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345582
Quote:
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345555
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beth http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345502
Truth is, that global warming reached its height during the age of dinosaurs. The world was a lush and thriving place. The problem is, that for humans, who mostly live near natural water sources, we have established our largest populations near water. When the earth warms, ice melts, and the coasts, where very large human populations exist, will be covered.
Its inevitable that this will happen, just as the planet will experience ice ages again, greatly reducing food supplies. We can theorize the causes, even blame ourselves, and blame the cows too til we are blue....these events will still happen again regardless of blame or no-blame.
There's not a dang thing we can do about (with current technology at least).
While CO2 has increased like 30% since the beginning of the industrial revolution methane has increased about 150% AND it is about 20 times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2. Yet they only want to regulate CO2. Could that be because the global socialist know that regulating methane would effect 3rd world countries far more than the US? And if CO2 is SO NASTY why cap and trade rather than just require a reduction in output? This whole man caused warming scam is the greatest hoax in the history of human kind.
We are still killing the planet regardless, I did get a chuckle reading Beth's post though since according to a whole lot of conservatives man and dinosaurs co-existed.

I am also wondering why you guys are always hating on Al Gore, he is doing nothing more than making money by taking advantage of the free market and peoples stupidity, business as usual, just insert the word global warming instead of Wall St.
Fishtaco
A whole lot? My sister is a holly roller type and she doesn't even buy that.
Al Gore is a hypocrite who's business venture will cost us all money. You do know he owns a carbon credit trading company right? Cap and trade will drive up the prices of every item you don't grow on your own ground, increase utility prices etc. Wall street never made anyone invest a dime they didn't want to.

 

[aquaknight]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345582
I am also wondering why you guys are always hating on Al Gore, he is doing nothing more than making money by taking advantage of the free market and peoples stupidity, business as usual, just insert the word global warming instead of Wall St.
Fishtaco
The stuff trying to be pulled, at like Copenhagen Climate Conference, is far more then just 'capitalism.' The ability to tax any business or government out of existence under falsehood of this AGW crap, is a truly scary notion.

 

[stdreb27]

Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaKnight http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345697
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345582
I am also wondering why you guys are always hating on Al Gore, he is doing nothing more than making money by taking advantage of the free market and peoples stupidity, business as usual, just insert the word global warming instead of Wall St.
Fishtaco
The stuff trying to be pulled, at like Copenhagen Climate Conference, is far more then just 'capitalism.' The ability to tax any business or government out of existence under falsehood of this AGW crap, is a truly scary notion.
Just a note to the leftists on the left coast.
Capitalism is not government creating regulations forcing entities to purchase some sort of certificate to stay in business. That is organized crime.

 

[fishtaco]

So it is so much different when Wall St. implodes due to greed and corruption and our government comes to the rescue with Tarp? Besides Gore is not the government so we have a lobbiest influencing policy, again I guess nothing like what happens between big business and government? Both are bad, but I guess if you have your conservative glasses on you only see it as Gore and global warming bad, Wall St and no regulations good.
Reef you get a double fail, because while it is true Wall St. never forced anybody to invest, a number of peoples retirement funds are invested in Wall St. regardless of if they want it there or not and do not try and say that the greed and corruption on Wall St. has not cost this country millions of jobs. Your way off base when you act like the stock market and investment banking is like a slot machine in Vegas and a smart person can just walk away and not put money in.
Strep27, you also need to think about your statement, I am not defending any of this global warming stuff, just pointing out that it gets hammered and rightly so, but nobody seems at all concerned that magically Wall St. is able to report record salaries and the rest of the country is still in the crapper. Creating regulations for global warming or bailing out criminals, it is all the same money.
Fishtaco

 

[stdreb27]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345741
Strep27, you also need to think about your statement, I am not defending any of this global warming stuff, just pointing out that it gets hammered and rightly so, but nobody seems at all concerned that magically Wall St. is able to report record salaries and the rest of the country is still in the crapper. Creating regulations for global warming or bailing out criminals, it is all the same money.
Fishtaco
What planet have you been on? We have a sitting president, (who named to the board of one of the companies who caused the whole debachel) as chief of staff. (nevermind him) But You don't remember them showing groups of protestors going to all these CEO's houses protesting, congressional hearings where the CEO's of major companies were basically tarred and feathered by congress. You odn't remember them making the CEO's of the big 3 drive to washington? Come on man. You have to have some semblance of objectivity.

 

[fishtaco]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345637
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345582
Quote:
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345555
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beth http:///forum/thread/382848/10-degrees-in-southern-arizona-global-whating-again/40#post_3345502
Truth is, that global warming reached its height during the age of dinosaurs. The world was a lush and thriving place. The problem is, that for humans, who mostly live near natural water sources, we have established our largest populations near water. When the earth warms, ice melts, and the coasts, where very large human populations exist, will be covered.
Its inevitable that this will happen, just as the planet will experience ice ages again, greatly reducing food supplies. We can theorize the causes, even blame ourselves, and blame the cows too til we are blue....these events will still happen again regardless of blame or no-blame.
There's not a dang thing we can do about (with current technology at least).
While CO2 has increased like 30% since the beginning of the industrial revolution methane has increased about 150% AND it is about 20 times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2. Yet they only want to regulate CO2. Could that be because the global socialist know that regulating methane would effect 3rd world countries far more than the US? And if CO2 is SO NASTY why cap and trade rather than just require a reduction in output? This whole man caused warming scam is the greatest hoax in the history of human kind.
We are still killing the planet regardless, I did get a chuckle reading Beth's post though since according to a whole lot of conservatives man and dinosaurs co-existed.ies/flaming.gif">

I am also wondering why you guys are always hating on Al Gore, he is doing nothing more than making money by taking advantage of the free market and peoples stupidity, business as usual, just insert the word global warming instead of Wall St.
Fishtaco
Well your supposed paradox doesn't quite work because for the uncle ape, granola munching, fruit cake, happy meal banners think, the indigenous humans were one with nature, and that is pretty much all that the dinosaur human coexisting crowd think was around. Some nomadic tribes of basically for lack of a better term Indians.
Streb27, this post makes no sense at all, I take it you believe dinosaurs and people co-existed? If so, your lack of understanding of basic science should be a good reason to excuse yourself from any global warming discussion regardless of it you think the earth is warming or not. Not trying to be harsh here, but the physical and metaphysical worlds are two vastly different things, both okay on their own, but not to be mixed.
Fishtaco