24 gallon nano pics and problem with ------ trigger

camillo

Member
this is my 24 gallon tank, currently wit a pair of clowns, a coral beauty, sixline wrasse, a valentini puffer, and a niger trigger, hope the pics are good, and i got a problem with my niger trigger, it was looking healthy until the other day wen i realised it was missing half of its tail fin,(hope u can tell from the pics) and its got scars all over him, i think he mustve got into a fight wit one of my other fish, which one could it be, and will the scaring go and the tail grow bak?




 

nctarheels

Member
im not the most knowledgeable about agressives but im pretty sure that the trigger is going to fight with everything in that tank. especially since its in a 24
 

halo_frk03

Member
umm basically the only fish you can keep in that tank are the clowns and maybe the coral beauty
everything else (puffer, trigger, wrasse) need way bigger tanks
take them back to ur LFS or find them good, suitable homes
 

bojik

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Originally Posted by HaLo_Frk03
umm basically the only fish you can keep in that tank are the clowns and maybe the coral beauty
everything else (puffer, trigger, wrasse) need way bigger tanks
take them back to ur LFS or find them good, suitable homes
Save the sixline wrasse
 

halo_frk03

Member
camillo-
i hope ure still reading this... no one is flaming you and trying to make you run away. we are trying to save you and your fish a lot of trouble. before you buy or even think of buying a fish or coral you should come to this website which has a wealth of information and very smart people on these boards. local fish stores can not always be trusted as sometimes they just want your money. the only fish in your tank that are suitable for your actual tank are the two clowns. you should try to return all the other fish or find new homes.
 

camillo

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im well aware that my tank isnt big enuf for the niger trigger as they can grow up to 50cm, and that it would probli become aggressive with most of my fish even though it is one of the lesser agressive triggers, but for the price i piked it up for i couldnt refuse to get it even if i would only be able to keep it for a very short time, i was practically given it for free. as for the puffer and sixline wrasse, im pretty sure my tank is a good size for them, the puffer grows to about 2inches and needs at least 20gallons, and the sixline only gets slightly larger. i new id get told that the fish i have in my tank arnt suitable, but i dont really care when its starts giving me problems ill fix the problem up. but does anyone have any answers to my question which was will the bit of tail fin thats missing from my trigger heal and grow bak?
 

halo_frk03

Member
Originally Posted by camillo
i new id get told that the fish i have in my tank arnt suitable, but i dont really care when its starts giving me problems ill fix the problem up.
ignorance is bliss
 

halo_frk03

Member
the puffer gets up to 4 inches and needs a MINIMUM tank size of 30 gallons and they can get aggressive especially when they are not comfortable... and not reef safe, along with the niger
The color of the Niger Triggerfish, also known as the Redtooth Triggerfish, may change from day to day between blue and green with a striking, lighter blue highlight on the fins and long tail lobes. As an adult, they acquire bright red teeth, making them quite interesting to watch when they eat.
The Niger Triggerfish requires a 70 gallon or larger aquarium with rocks and caves for hiding, and may rearrange the landscaping and rocks. It vocalizes using a "grunting" sound. They are a great active fish for the more aggressive, fish-only display.
The Niger Triggerfish needs a varied diet of meaty foods including; squid, krill, clams, small fish and hard shelled shrimp to help wear down their ever growing teeth.
The Six Line Wrasse is also referred to as the Sixline Wrasse or Sixstripe Wrasse. It has six, horizontal distinctive blue lines lying against an orange background. When courting, the male will display an increased color intensity.
It requires a 30 gallon or larger aquarium with a generous supply of hiding places and live rock in which to forage for food. It may act aggressively towards peaceful Wrasses and other fish that are easily intimidated.
It will search for live foods in the form of small crustaceans such as pyramidellid snails (clam parasites), urchins, and commensal flatworms. Six Line Wrasse are also known to feed on unwanted pests on live rock, such as bristleworms.
When first introduced into the aquarium, live saltwater feeder shrimp should be used to entice this fish to eat. The diet should consist of finely chopped meaty foods and occasionally vitamin-enriched frozen preparations.
 

halo_frk03

Member
the niger probably inflicted the damage himself while he was swimming around that way too small tank bumping into rocks
you can say goodby to any corals u have in there seeing that 3 of the fish are not reef safe
 

halo_frk03

Member
Originally Posted by camillo
i new id get told that the fish i have in my tank arnt suitable, but i dont really care when its starts giving me problems ill fix the problem up.
well its already giving you problems now... with ur niger being in poor health
 

bojik

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My sixline is in a 15L has been for months and leaves my rainfords goby and hi fin pretty much alone. THOUGH they are not other wrasses. It eats frozen brine greedily... hunts for pods still. Have not personally seen it eat any baby bristle worms. I know there are some in that tank.
 

camillo

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can u please tell me where u got this information from as all my sources tell me that sixline wrasses grow to a maximum of 7.5 cm and need a minimum of 20g and this very sight tells me that the pufer grows to a maximum of 2inches, u guys are fanatics, i wonder what u would say if i told u that the person i got my triger from had two of these triggers, one much larger, and my puffer in a tank that was 120litres and paked of corals, he had em for 2 years and no problems. dont treat me like and idiot with all ur copyied and pasted rubbish from the net, ive been keeping marine fish for over 3 years now, and ive never had an problems. go chek my previous threads if u dont believe that i already new about the complications these fish could give me. but anyways do u really think the trigger could have hurt himself by swimming in a tank thats too small for him, i mean my coral beauty is a fair bit bigger than him and it has never been hurt from swimming in a tank this size
 

halo_frk03

Member
i believe this site gives the size of the fish when it is shipped
and i was just pasting the information from other reputable sites to show you that i was making this stuff up
coral beauties are more graceful in the water whereas niger's have been known for knocking over rocks
 

halo_frk03

Member
im not trying to make you look stupid im just trying to save you and your fish a lot of pain
what is the saying?... an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure
so if you fix the problem now it will save you in the future
 

bojik

Member
What types of corals did the guy you got the trigger from have? They may have been types they would not nip at. They will tend to eat all sorts of crustations/mollusks . Many puffers tend to like to nibble on hard corals (so i hear) As well as (like triggers) most love to eat shrimp crabs etc. And they tend to like their elbow room.
It is probably the puffer attacking him, if he isn't getting cut up on something in the tank. If you haven't already look for anything rather sharp or a loose/missing intake cover on a powerhead or something. Though the missing fin piece highly suggests its being bullied. The coral beauty is the less likely second choice. And most people say the coralbeauty is reef safe if housed with certain things and with other things keep an eye on it. But for the sake of easier tank mait'. IMO I would remove the puffer and the trigger and get them a bigger home soon. (or take them to the LFS for credit/sale them)
We are not trying to rub you the wrong way or come off as know it alls. I personally apologize if i have.
 
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lbaskball

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dude get rid of these fish. Your alreayd having problems,and you cant seem to fix it. Your tank is so small. Your tank wont be able to handle all that bioload for all your fish.Even the small clowns eat a lot. Eventhough sites may say they need a "minimum" tank size, these fish need plenty of swimming space. You should get a bigger tank, or give them back to the LFS. And for your info, I've seen a puffers that are huge! In a couple of weeks or months, all your fish are gonna start stressing out due to the swimmign space and gonna die if you dont save them.
 
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