jayc: yup, they are 4x65 pc....it the odyssea light the only problem with them is that they only came with one plug, so I had to rewire them for two plugs to use timers.
exile415: Good eyes, that is a cpr bakpak picked it up off another forum for $50, I intended on getting an in sump skimmer but the price was right for the cpr. As far as how I feel about it, I guess that I am still in the break in period (thats what I've be told at least) because it is releasing hundreds of micro bubbles in to the tank.....do you have this problem?