mboswell1982
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i was gonna use the penguin as a return, its not gonna be in the display, its gonna be in the pump section of the sump
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rotarymagic
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that return will be fine (use a flare end on it)... but remember... you need to make sure you're using gravity because the HOB pump and the return pump are not going to flow the exact same.. one will flow more than the other...
mboswell1982
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm then that is gonna make this that much harder, i guess im gonna be scratching the powerfilter overflow idea, cause i was plannin on havin it runnin LOL ok, back to the drawing board LOL
rotarymagic
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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2867792
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm then that is gonna make this that much harder, i guess im gonna be scratching the powerfilter overflow idea, cause i was plannin on havin it runnin LOL ok, back to the drawing board LOL
Just put the 2.5g on a mini stand.. like 3inches or whatever above the 2g and do a mini me overflow.. lol
look at the CPR overflow box for ideas.. man..damn you're gonna make me have to build you one? I thought you knew how to use tools...
you could always hide a rubber tube that goes around the inside of the plastic trim with holes in it(make sure the water exits below the water line so you don't get bubbles and such) to put flow all over the tank from the return pump while hilding equipment.. I dunno... up to you..
its your tank... may as well make it awesome.. lol..
http:///forum/post/2867792
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm then that is gonna make this that much harder, i guess im gonna be scratching the powerfilter overflow idea, cause i was plannin on havin it runnin LOL ok, back to the drawing board LOL
Just put the 2.5g on a mini stand.. like 3inches or whatever above the 2g and do a mini me overflow.. lol
look at the CPR overflow box for ideas.. man..damn you're gonna make me have to build you one? I thought you knew how to use tools...
you could always hide a rubber tube that goes around the inside of the plastic trim with holes in it(make sure the water exits below the water line so you don't get bubbles and such) to put flow all over the tank from the return pump while hilding equipment.. I dunno... up to you..
its your tank... may as well make it awesome.. lol..
mboswell1982
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im working on a drawing right now, tell me what u think of it once im finished LOL
rotarymagic
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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2867796
im working on a drawing right now, tell me what u think of it once im finished LOL
hahaha.. this thing is gonna pwn all by the time we're done..
http:///forum/post/2867796
im working on a drawing right now, tell me what u think of it once im finished LOL
hahaha.. this thing is gonna pwn all by the time we're done..
mboswell1982
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here's the workup, tell me what ya think of this lil design
mboswell1982
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Originally Posted by Rotarymagic
http:///forum/post/2867797
hahaha.. this thing is gonna pwn all by the time we're done..
dude, you are so right about that, and you get equal credit on this thing dude, thats for sure
actually, u get more than equal credit LOL
i bet you thought i wasnt ever gonna get a tank didnt you LOL
http:///forum/post/2867797
hahaha.. this thing is gonna pwn all by the time we're done..
dude, you are so right about that, and you get equal credit on this thing dude, thats for sure
actually, u get more than equal credit LOLi bet you thought i wasnt ever gonna get a tank didnt you LOL
freeborder_01
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have you thought about maybe going with a 5.5gallon and making it an all in one and putting a false wall with an over flow into a refugium all inside the tank so you get like a 3-4 gallon display and then a 1-2 gallon refugium in the back of the tank? Really really simple thing to do and ive seen a TON of success with them
mboswell1982
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dont wanna buy a tank right now not buying a tank til i get at least a 20 long, preferably my 40 breeder or 30g finnex m series LOL
not buying a tank til i get at least a 20 long, preferably my 40 breeder or 30g finnex m series LOL
rotarymagic
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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2867798
here's the workup, tell me what ya think of this lil design
make sure the sump is turned sideways to minimize headloss on the return pump... that's all I can really recommend... make sure the overflow tube that goes into the sump does so below the water line for a siphon.
I really think a spraybar around the lip of the plastic trim would put flow everywhere in the tank and hide equipment... You could always fab up a canopy if you wanted to hide stuff too...
wait... great idea.. make a nice wood canopy with a single 20w 50/50 bulb... hard wire a fan in there that turns on when the light does... it'll keep everything cool... hide the top of overflow and the return line that runs into a spray bar...
http:///forum/post/2867798
here's the workup, tell me what ya think of this lil design
make sure the sump is turned sideways to minimize headloss on the return pump... that's all I can really recommend... make sure the overflow tube that goes into the sump does so below the water line for a siphon.
I really think a spraybar around the lip of the plastic trim would put flow everywhere in the tank and hide equipment... You could always fab up a canopy if you wanted to hide stuff too...
wait... great idea.. make a nice wood canopy with a single 20w 50/50 bulb... hard wire a fan in there that turns on when the light does... it'll keep everything cool... hide the top of overflow and the return line that runs into a spray bar...
mboswell1982
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dude, that is a sick idea, i can glue it into the rim, just under it, using maybe some black pvc, drill my holes in it, attach it to the return pump, i may just have to get a maxi jet 400 for this, but hell, i dont care LOL, and yeah, the sump will be turned sideways, i just did it that way in the drawing so u could see the whole idea easier LOL maybe even build, when i build the stand for the lights, kinda seal the whole thing off, so you can only see the tank from the front, and close it totally in with 1/4" sheets of something, stain it, and hide the whole thing
rotarymagic
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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2867807
dude, that is a sick idea, i can glue it into the rim, just under it, using maybe some black pvc, drill my holes in it, attach it to the return pump, i may just have to get a maxi jet 400 for this, but hell, i dont care LOL, and yeah, the sump will be turned sideways, i just did it that way in the drawing so u could see the whole idea easier LOL maybe even build, when i build the stand for the lights, kinda seal the whole thing off, so you can only see the tank from the front, and close it totally in with 1/4" sheets of something, stain it, and hide the whole thing
don't use pvc... I'd put a T barb fitting on the hose coming off the return pump and then run 3/8s rubber tubing around the entire lip of the tank with 90degree barb fittings at each corner.. and the drill holes in each section o tube.. in a pattern for random flow... one straight across and one at a 45degree angle.. when you combine all 4 sides... you get nice random flow everywhere.
you know a maxijet flows less than the pump you have right?? if you needed to... just put a ball valve on the upline of the return to dial back flow if necessary... but I don't think you'll need to personally..
you'll be able to keep a bunch of nice softies in this setup for sure... maybe even some lps.
http:///forum/post/2867807
dude, that is a sick idea, i can glue it into the rim, just under it, using maybe some black pvc, drill my holes in it, attach it to the return pump, i may just have to get a maxi jet 400 for this, but hell, i dont care LOL, and yeah, the sump will be turned sideways, i just did it that way in the drawing so u could see the whole idea easier LOL maybe even build, when i build the stand for the lights, kinda seal the whole thing off, so you can only see the tank from the front, and close it totally in with 1/4" sheets of something, stain it, and hide the whole thing
don't use pvc... I'd put a T barb fitting on the hose coming off the return pump and then run 3/8s rubber tubing around the entire lip of the tank with 90degree barb fittings at each corner.. and the drill holes in each section o tube.. in a pattern for random flow... one straight across and one at a 45degree angle.. when you combine all 4 sides... you get nice random flow everywhere.
you know a maxijet flows less than the pump you have right?? if you needed to... just put a ball valve on the upline of the return to dial back flow if necessary... but I don't think you'll need to personally..
you'll be able to keep a bunch of nice softies in this setup for sure... maybe even some lps.
mboswell1982
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oh sweet, i hadnt thought about using flex tubing, i was gonna do hardline 3/8" thin wall pvc, black in color LOL
mboswell1982
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hmmmmm, a maxi jet 400 flows less than 145gph? ouch, hmmmmm, guess ill be goin with the one i got then, or maybe get a 600
rotarymagic
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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2867811
oh sweet, i hadnt thought about using flex tubing, i was gonna do hardline 3/8" thin wall pvc, black in color LOL
hardline is more complicated and not flexible lol...
just becareful to not have any holes over the section that goes across the overflow box..
I dunno what adhesive you'll need though to mount it in place... but I'd recommend putting vaseline on the section of plastic that is above the rubber tubing to prevent salt from creeping out past it.
http:///forum/post/2867811
oh sweet, i hadnt thought about using flex tubing, i was gonna do hardline 3/8" thin wall pvc, black in color LOL
hardline is more complicated and not flexible lol...
just becareful to not have any holes over the section that goes across the overflow box..
I dunno what adhesive you'll need though to mount it in place... but I'd recommend putting vaseline on the section of plastic that is above the rubber tubing to prevent salt from creeping out past it.
rotarymagic
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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2867812
hmmmmm, a maxi jet 400 flows less than 145gph? ouch, hmmmmm, guess ill be goin with the one i got then, or maybe get a 600
just use the one ya got.
http:///forum/post/2867812
hmmmmm, a maxi jet 400 flows less than 145gph? ouch, hmmmmm, guess ill be goin with the one i got then, or maybe get a 600
just use the one ya got.
mboswell1982
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kk, i think im gonna use this aquarium silicone to p ut it all in there, it should work, what ya think?
mboswell1982
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hmmmm, should i do one 20w coralife 50/50 or 2?
rotarymagic
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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2867815
kk, i think im gonna use this aquarium silicone to p ut it all in there, it should work, what ya think?
lol probably... just becareful.
I would really apply lots of it on the corner sections with the 90degree barbs to make sure there's lots of support there..
try doing one light with a reflector in the canopy and see how that does. if you can.. mount a fan that blows through the canopy too...it'll keep temps down.
http:///forum/post/2867815
kk, i think im gonna use this aquarium silicone to p ut it all in there, it should work, what ya think?
lol probably... just becareful.
I would really apply lots of it on the corner sections with the 90degree barbs to make sure there's lots of support there..
try doing one light with a reflector in the canopy and see how that does. if you can.. mount a fan that blows through the canopy too...it'll keep temps down.