Abortion...So here's your thread
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1journeyman
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Originally Posted by ruaround
perfect... so youre not 100% pro life...
Well if you want to play with definitions I guess I'm 100% pro choice. I believe all life should 100% be able to choose whether it lives or dies...
perfect... so youre not 100% pro life...
Well if you want to play with definitions I guess I'm 100% pro choice. I believe all life should 100% be able to choose whether it lives or dies...
ruaround
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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Well if you want to play with definitions I guess I'm 100% pro choice. I believe all life should 100% be able to choose whether it lives or dies...
so infadels get to choose wether or not that tomahawk smashes into their apartment building???
Well if you want to play with definitions I guess I'm 100% pro choice. I believe all life should 100% be able to choose whether it lives or dies...
so infadels get to choose wether or not that tomahawk smashes into their apartment building???
jtrzerocool
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
I have had this debate numerous times on here. For me the issue is settled and done. The courts have ruled on it. End of story.
The thing I propose to many pro-choicers is the following.
Why is it OK for an individual to harrm a fetus and destroy it. Yet dog fighting is a criminal offense and the public goes nuts from all sides of the aisle. Don't get me wrong I do not condone either. But when human's place the lives of animals above their own...then society has truly taken a step back.
And with the availablilty of FREE birth control why does this practice still occur? Because people are stupid and irresponsible.
but what about the instance where birth control doesnt work?
I have had this debate numerous times on here. For me the issue is settled and done. The courts have ruled on it. End of story.
The thing I propose to many pro-choicers is the following.
Why is it OK for an individual to harrm a fetus and destroy it. Yet dog fighting is a criminal offense and the public goes nuts from all sides of the aisle. Don't get me wrong I do not condone either. But when human's place the lives of animals above their own...then society has truly taken a step back.
And with the availablilty of FREE birth control why does this practice still occur? Because people are stupid and irresponsible.
but what about the instance where birth control doesnt work?
ruaround
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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
No I'm not. I'm going to fight against those who are trying to remove freedom from others.
believe it or not man there are some people in this world that are fighting for what they believe is their freedom and it is quite the opposite of what you think is freedom...
No I'm not. I'm going to fight against those who are trying to remove freedom from others.
believe it or not man there are some people in this world that are fighting for what they believe is their freedom and it is quite the opposite of what you think is freedom...
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by ruaround
even if you knew that you were going to be beaten molested and mis treated your whole life??? or end up being shot at the age of 13 in a drug deal gone bad???
Ok, fine. If you can predict the quality of life a fetus is going to have and see they are going to be mistreated then we can discuss that...
Of course if you asked most abused 13 year olds if they wanted to live or die they'd say "live".
even if you knew that you were going to be beaten molested and mis treated your whole life??? or end up being shot at the age of 13 in a drug deal gone bad???
Ok, fine. If you can predict the quality of life a fetus is going to have and see they are going to be mistreated then we can discuss that...
Of course if you asked most abused 13 year olds if they wanted to live or die they'd say "live".
darthtang aw
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If you are truly pro-choice you must be pro-choice in all things. It is my dog, I bought and paid for it, I can run it over with a steam roller if I so chose, after all it is my dog, my paycheck caring for it, and my choice to go out and buy one..
Just like it is your choice to have ---, your choice to not use protection, and your choice to remove a fetus from your body.
Neither action affects another citizen....so both should be legal..
But wait, puppies are cute......but so are babies.....man quite a dilemma here isn't it...
Just like it is your choice to have ---, your choice to not use protection, and your choice to remove a fetus from your body.
Neither action affects another citizen....so both should be legal..
But wait, puppies are cute......but so are babies.....man quite a dilemma here isn't it...
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by ruaround
and the reason you support war is to live in this great country with all of its freedoms... right???
The freedom of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, correct.
and the reason you support war is to live in this great country with all of its freedoms... right???
The freedom of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, correct.
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by ruaround
so if an eye for an eye is right and killing in the name of freedom is right then why do you want to take a right away that is basically the same "crime" as you put it earlier???
An "eye for an eye" is not correct.
so if an eye for an eye is right and killing in the name of freedom is right then why do you want to take a right away that is basically the same "crime" as you put it earlier???
An "eye for an eye" is not correct.
clown boy
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Originally Posted by ruaround
believe it or not man there are some people in this world that are fighting for what they believe is their freedom and it is quite the opposite of what you think is freedom...
If you mean those who think that freedom is being able to choose whether or not to give a human a chance at life, then that is not just their opinion. It's a lie.
believe it or not man there are some people in this world that are fighting for what they believe is their freedom and it is quite the opposite of what you think is freedom...
If you mean those who think that freedom is being able to choose whether or not to give a human a chance at life, then that is not just their opinion. It's a lie.
alix2.0
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
If you are truly pro-choice you must be pro-choice in all things. It is my dog, I bought and paid for it, I can run it over with a steam roller if I so chose, after all it is my dog, my paycheck caring for it, and my choice to go out and buy one..
Just like it is your choice to have ---, your choice to not use protection, and your choice to remove a fetus from your body.
Neither action affects another citizen....so both should be legal..
But wait, puppies are cute......but so are babies.....man quite a dilemma here isn't it...
but a dog is a living being. a fetus is, untill birth, a parasite.
If you are truly pro-choice you must be pro-choice in all things. It is my dog, I bought and paid for it, I can run it over with a steam roller if I so chose, after all it is my dog, my paycheck caring for it, and my choice to go out and buy one..
Just like it is your choice to have ---, your choice to not use protection, and your choice to remove a fetus from your body.
Neither action affects another citizen....so both should be legal..
But wait, puppies are cute......but so are babies.....man quite a dilemma here isn't it...
but a dog is a living being. a fetus is, untill birth, a parasite.
ruaround
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
If you are truly pro-choice you must be pro-choice in all things. It is my dog, I bought and paid for it, I can run it over with a steam roller if I so chose, after all it is my dog, my paycheck caring for it, and my choice to go out and buy one..
Just like it is your choice to have ---, your choice to not use protection, and your choice to remove a fetus from your body.
Neither action affects another citizen....so both should be legal..
But wait, puppies are cute......but so are babies.....man quite a dilemma here isn't it...
there is no dilema after each of them are born... its illegal to kill either... even if they are "yours"...
If you are truly pro-choice you must be pro-choice in all things. It is my dog, I bought and paid for it, I can run it over with a steam roller if I so chose, after all it is my dog, my paycheck caring for it, and my choice to go out and buy one..
Just like it is your choice to have ---, your choice to not use protection, and your choice to remove a fetus from your body.
Neither action affects another citizen....so both should be legal..
But wait, puppies are cute......but so are babies.....man quite a dilemma here isn't it...
there is no dilema after each of them are born... its illegal to kill either... even if they are "yours"...
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by ruaround
so infadels get to choose wether or not that tomahawk smashes into their apartment building???
Nope...
They do get to choose whether or not they support terrorist regimes and cells, however.
Much like the Germans in Dresden or the Japanese in Hiroshima.
so infadels get to choose wether or not that tomahawk smashes into their apartment building???
Nope...
They do get to choose whether or not they support terrorist regimes and cells, however.
Much like the Germans in Dresden or the Japanese in Hiroshima.
jonthefishguy
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Bottom line is ABORTIONS have been around for centuries and will continue to be around for centuries more regardless of whether people are for it or against it, whether it is legal or illegal and whether you like it or not. There is nothing you can do about it. If there was, you would have already done so. So my stand point is.....do whatever you have to do.
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by alix2.0
but a dog is a living being. a fetus is, untill birth, a parasite.
Wow; so based on that tidbit all mammalian newborns are parasites as they suck nutrients from their mothers. So until a baby is weaned it is not a life?
but a dog is a living being. a fetus is, untill birth, a parasite.
Wow; so based on that tidbit all mammalian newborns are parasites as they suck nutrients from their mothers. So until a baby is weaned it is not a life?
clown boy
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Originally Posted by jonthefishguy
Bottom line is ABORTIONS have been around for centuries and will continue to be around for centuries more regardless of whether people are for it or against it, whether it is legal or illegal and whether you like it or not. There is nothing you can do about it. If there was, you would have already done so. So my stand point is.....do whatever you have to do.
That is yet another lie. Abortions were non-existent until the last 50 years.
I'm not calling any of you folk liars. I am trying to reveal the lie to you.
Bottom line is ABORTIONS have been around for centuries and will continue to be around for centuries more regardless of whether people are for it or against it, whether it is legal or illegal and whether you like it or not. There is nothing you can do about it. If there was, you would have already done so. So my stand point is.....do whatever you have to do.
That is yet another lie. Abortions were non-existent until the last 50 years.
I'm not calling any of you folk liars. I am trying to reveal the lie to you.