Abortion...So here's your thread

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by alix2.0

i feel ill
i dont understand this question. the baby was still born wasnt it?
No. a C-section is not "born".

 

[jtrzerocool]

the child is still born...it is just a different form of delivery...

 

[ruaround]

Originally Posted by Clown Boy
Yes, I suppose what I said is very funny if you think that an unborn person is not a person. But he/she is. So a decision to terminate his/her life does interfere with him/her.
nope... im laughing at the fact that you personally think you arent interfering... but in all actuality you are... is hypocracy at its best... the whole "no i dont believe in abortion... but yes i would fry a person or nuke an entire country"... all in the name of freedom... a freedom that you want limitations to...
yes a person born C Section is a human... prove it otherwise...

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by ruaround
besides, freedom and rights are not synonamous... what is the point of this statement???
That's actually my point. A woman can "choose" (freedom) to do whatever she wants until that choice affects the rights of others. At the point where her "choice" interferes with the rights of other's she no longer has that freedom.

 

[clown boy]

Please folks... whether it is born by C-Section or not, what does it matter in relativity to this discussion?

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by ruaround
...yes a person born C Section is a human... prove it otherwise...
Talk to Alex. She is the one that brought up that rabbit chase...

 

[clown boy]

Originally Posted by ruaround
nope... im laughing at the fact that you personally think you arent interfering... but in all actuality you are... is hypocracy at its best... the whole "no i dont believe in abortion... but yes i would fry a person or nuke an entire country"... all in the name of freedom... a freedom that you want limitations to...
yes a person born C Section is a human... prove it otherwise...
No, I'm not interfering with someone else's life. I am fighting to save the lives of those who wouldn't get a chance at life otherwise.
About the comment about nuking a country... do you think that Saddam Huissain should have been left alone to kill hundreds of innocent people?

 

[ruaround]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Talk to Alex. He is the one that brought up that rabbit chase...
Alix is female...

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by ruaround
nope... im laughing at the fact that you personally think you arent interfering...
Ruaround, by that reasoning we should live in a state of anarchy.

 

[clown boy]

I think some good is coming out of this thread. At least it is making people think through their reasoning...

 

[ruaround]

Originally Posted by Clown Boy
No, I'm not interfering with someone else's life. I am fighting to save the lives of those who wouldn't get a chance at life otherwise.
About the comment about nuking a country... do you think that Saddam Huissain should have been left alone to kill hundreds of innocent people?
are you going to support any of these children??? do you know what it takes to provide for a child??? i would guess no... so basically youre fighting for something that isnt wanted and you wouldnt or couldnt take care of right now...
who cares about Saddam... he was doing what was right to him... he was the leader... and he got what was coming to him...

 

[jmick]

Interesting thread, thought I might chime in.
First, I am against the idea of abortion but I think that taking away a woman's reprodutive rights and her rights to her own body are no better.
Also, we live in a very self-centered world where wayyy to many people put themselves way before others and think about their own wants and needs. I hate to say it, but this is who we are as a society and when ever possible many people will make the easy choice over the choice that will be around the next 18-24 years.
Ideally, I'd love it if a person would always make the right choice and have the child and if they didn't want it then give it up for adoption or to a family member who'd care for the child. As far as we know this is it, you only have one shot at life and to take that away before birth is a really sad thing. I think most of us would rather be born into a terrible situation then to not be born at all.

 

[ruaround]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Ruaround, by that reasoning we should live in a state of anarchy.
actually the opposite bro... i want laws... i want rights... and freedom of choice is a right i want... by having freedom of choice i upholds your idea of pro life... quite the conundrum isnt it...

 

[clown boy]

Originally Posted by ruaround
are you going to support any of these children??? do you know what it takes to provide for a child??? i would guess no... so basically youre fighting for something that isnt wanted and you wouldnt or couldnt take care of right now...
As a matter of fact I am. There are three adopted children in our family.
Originally Posted by ruaround
who cares about Saddam... he was doing what was right to him... he was the leader... and he got what was coming to him...
Innocent people were being killed. There is no such thing is it being "right to him".

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by ruaround
actually the opposite bro... i want laws... i want rights... and freedom of choice is a right i want... by having freedom of choice i upholds your idea of pro life... quite the conundrum isnt it...
Not really; you and I want the same thing, just from different perspectives. You want "pro choice" for adults, I want it for the unborn....
Adults make their own beds, so to speak. The unborn are at the mercy of society.

 

[ruaround]

Originally Posted by Clown Boy
As a matter of fact I am. There are three adopted children in our family.Innocent people were being killed. There is no such thing is it being "right to him".
youre taking on all of the resposibility by yourself??? i thought you were in high school...
like i said...he was doing what he thought was right... and he got what he had coming to him...

 

[clown boy]

Originally Posted by Clown Boy
As a matter of fact I am. There are three adopted children in our family.
Oh, and did I mention that I almost never get any of the money that I earn because it goes to provide for them?

 

[ruaround]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Adults make their own beds, so to speak. The unborn are at the mercy of society.
on many more levels too...

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by ruaround
Alix is female...

Thank ya, correction made

 

[ruaround]

Originally Posted by Clown Boy
Oh, and did I mention that I almost never get any of the money that I earn because it goes to provide for them?
well done you...