Abortion...So here's your thread

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by ruaround
a fetus cant speak... how do you know what it would say???
I wouldn't.
I am fairly confident however, based on how all biological creatures function, that a fetus would choose life over death.
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
Weak trap. I am 100% Pro Justice. If an innocent person cannot speak for himself, it is a crime for him to be killed.
weak trap??? how do you figure??? justice is making an example of a wrong doer???
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by ruaround
of course not... you wouldnt know how to...
1journey and Clown Boy do you support capital punishment???
Yes, although I would have a hard time serving on a jury where I had to "judge" someone worthy of it.
I also support war.
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
I wouldn't.
I am fairly confident however, based on how all biological creatures function, that a fetus would choose life over death.
even if you knew that you were going to be beaten molested and mis treated your whole life??? or end up being shot at the age of 13 in a drug deal gone bad???
 

clown boy

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Originally Posted by ruaround
even if you knew that you were going to be beaten molested and mis treated your whole life??? or end up being shot at the age of 13 in a drug deal gone bad???
Is that good enough of a reason to not give someone a chance at life?
 

clown boy

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Originally Posted by ruaround
weak trap??? how do you figure??? justice is making an example of a wrong doer???
No, justice is making someone pay for what they did.
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Yes, although I would have a hard time serving on a jury where I had to "judge" someone worthy of it.
I also support war.
and the reason you support war is to live in this great country with all of its freedoms... right???
 

clown boy

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Originally Posted by ruaround
and the reason you support war is to live in this great country with all of its freedoms... right???
Freedom isn't free.
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
Is that good enough of a reason to not give someone a chance at life?
i dont know... i know i sure as h#ll wouldnt want to be born into that situation...
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
Freedom isn't free.
so if an eye for an eye is right and killing in the name of freedom is right then why do you want to take a right away that is basically the same "crime" as you put it earlier???
 

clown boy

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Originally Posted by ruaround
i dont know... i know i sure as h#ll wouldnt want to be born into that situation...
All that you have been saying has been based on the assumption that he/she would be born into a troubled family. But that's usually not the case. He/she is usually given up for adoption by a loving, caring family.
 

clown boy

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Originally Posted by ruaround
so if an eye for an eye is right and killing in the name of freedom is right then why do you want to take a right away that is basically the same "crime" as you put it earlier???
Because there is a difference between stopping those who would deny us freedom and denying a human a chance at life.
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
All that you have been saying has been based on the assumption that he/she would be born into a troubled family. But that's usually not the case. He/she is usually given up for adoption by a loving, caring family.
or in foster care til the age of 18 that taxes us all... i just gave one extreme im not saying that every single instance is that cookie cutter... of course it isnt... thats why i say there should be a choice... not everything in this country is shiney and happy bro... there is some bad stuff goin on out there...
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by alix2.0
...... should you (and the baby!) be punished for the rest of your lives?...
Do you think death is less of a punishment than life for the unborn?
The vast majority of abortions done in this country have nothing to do with r ape. If that happened to your 13 year old friend obviously there would need to be exceptions.
 

darthtang aw

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I have had this debate numerous times on here. For me the issue is settled and done. The courts have ruled on it. End of story.
The thing I propose to many pro-choicers is the following.
Why is it OK for an individual to harrm a fetus and destroy it. Yet dog fighting is a criminal offense and the public goes nuts from all sides of the aisle. Don't get me wrong I do not condone either. But when human's place the lives of animals above their own...then society has truly taken a step back.
And with the availablilty of FREE birth control why does this practice still occur? Because people are stupid and irresponsible.
 

clown boy

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Originally Posted by ruaround
or in foster care til the age of 18 that taxes us all... i just gave one extreme im not saying that every single instance is that cookie cutter... of course it isnt... thats why i say there should be a choice... not everything in this country is shiney and happy bro... there is some bad stuff goin on out there...
It can be solved without denying someone a chance at life.
 

clown boy

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Originally Posted by fishyCPA
This is going nowhere...no one is going to change anyone's beliefs.
I know. But while it lasts, I am going to defend those who cannot defend themselves.
 

ruaround

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
Because there is a difference between stopping those who would deny us freedom and denying a human a chance at life.
LMAO... so youre going to kill one that doesnt agree with your personal views??? then you should be a candidate for capital punishment...
 
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