An exchange I had with Rush Limbaugh...

Since this board seems to get political every now and then, I thought I would share from my blog a little chat I had with Rush Limbaugh last week...
How people like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Rielly sleep at night is really beyond me. I typically listen to Rush when I am in the car, just to see how much right wing ******* he can spin on a variety of subjects. Normally he takes calls from his fellow right wingers, who praise his ideas, and more or less give him an over the airwaves *****. I mean I can't blame the guy I suppose... If I was a sad old man, who has a proven track record of supporting things that have more or less destroyed the country... well I guess I would want to have some of my sheep call in to make me feel a little less responsible too.
Anyways, every now and then, his show will take a call from a democrat, who will call out Rush on a number of things, as all the while Rush belittles them and their ideas and does some silly name calling. Mind you, when they actually do let a lefty on, they have pre screened them to make sure they have a third grade education, a thick southern accent, and the capacity to not make any good counter arguments.
Because of this, I decided last week to try and get on the show. Sure enough after about 25 minutes of being on hold, I got through to a screener. The guy asks me where I'm from and what I'd like to talk about. Now mind you I had to pretend to be "uneducated democrat" in order to actually get on the air. So in my best South Carolinian accent, I told him I was "Jonathan from Sumter South Carolina and I was fixin' to talk about how George Bush hadn't done nothin' for the little guy and how even a couple hundred bucks would help me out". Please hold, I'm told.
Obviously, I was hoping that the screener would catch on to the fact that I was oblivious to the economic stimulus package that will be sending every tax paying American $1,200 next month. Sure enough, he comes back and says "Sir, you are number three in line. Please hold and when you come on the air, turn your radio down."
Crap. I can't believe this is actually going to work! I mean how dumb can this screener be anyways? I say I'm from South Carolina, when I clearly am calling from an Ohio area code. Not to mention the fact that my accent was so over the top, that most 7th graders would get the feeling they were being stooped. Nope, not this guy. He was thrilled to death that he found someone that Rush could embarrass on air...
About 35 minutes and two commercial breaks later, I get on the air:
Rush: "You're on the Rush Limbaugh Show on the IEB radio network."
Me (In my normal voice, sans the accent): Hello Rush, it's an honor to talk with you. I'm Jonathan calling from Cleveland Ohio.
Rush: "Good day to you sir, what would you like to talk about this afternoon?"
Me: "Well earlier in the program, you were talking about how even at 5%, the unemployment rate is still well below the high of 11% back in the 1970's."
Rush: "That is correct. So many in the liberal media want us to believe that this is as bad as it's been, when in fact, this is the first quarter with negative job growth in President Bush's entire presidency."
Me: "Right, Right I agree. I just had a question for you Rush."
Rush: "Sure, go ahead."
Me: "You say that unemployment rates at 5% means that the job situation really isn't as bad as the liberal media makes it out to be. But how exactly can you equate the number of people who are working for far less than they are worth?
Rush: "Well what do you mean by that exactly?"
Me: "Well, myself for example. I'm a mid 20's white male from an upper middle class family with two college degrees, and it took me the better part of 10 months to find a job after graduation that pays about half of what I'm worth. Not to mention friends I graduated college from with masters degrees who are waiting tables to make ends meet.
Rush (In a suddenly defensive tone): Well with all due respect sir, I think that's not the best example to use against....
Me (Cutting In): I think it's a great example to use, because the unemployment rate doesn't have a number to tell you who is working in a job they are overqualified for, it just tells you who is working in general. So please tell me how the Bush administrations policies and tax breaks to move jobs out of this country aren't making it tough for the average guy out there like me? (Cont'd next post)
 
Silence.
I wasn't sure what happened, so I turned the radio back up (which is on about a ten second delay) and hear myself get to "So please tell me" before I was cut off and hung up on!
Are you kidding me? Before I get to the big question that makes him look like a completely illogical a**hole... he hangs up on me.
He finishes our little exchange with "Looks like we lost the caller on his cell phone. But let's not confuse his situation with the general situation folks. It's democrats like him who want you to believe that it's all doom and gloom when in fact it's no worse now than it was in 2003. We need to take a break, you're listening to the Rush Limbaugh program, we'll be back after this".
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?
I give him a nice big steaming pile of reality, and he cuts me off, then reinstates his facts (which by the way I moments ago completely tore apart), and goes to a commercial so his flock doesn't have time to think about what I just said.
This, my friends, is how the so called "right wing media" does business. They put up with you, until you have something constructive to say about the Bush administration, and then all the sudden they "lose your call", and try and quickly cover their tracks with the same old bull**** lines.
Well I for one am sick of them... how bout you?
Stay tuned,
Jonathan
p.s. - Rush, if you happen to read this, I'd be happy to come back on the air and continue our chat
 

lovethesea

Active Member
I think you owe people from South Carolina an apolgy and why are you worth anything just because you have two degrees? If you are just out of college with no experience you are just worth that amount. You get to start where most college educated people get to start...........
 

1journeyman

Active Member
So, to sum up your post;
You lied to get on the air, then complained because you aren't getting paid enough?
Here's a couple of novel ideas; Either move to a State with a better economy than Ohio, or get a degree in a field that's in demand...
We live in a small world. Gone are the days of American workers getting overpaid because there was no one else capable of doing their job. We all are competing on the global market.
No President will be able to change that, unless they implement tariffs and Isolationist policies of the 1800's.
 

t316

Active Member
Not to applaud or promote Rush, but I would have hung up on you after your opening sentence. You lied, and put yourself up on a higher pedestal than what you are capable of perching on. You are worth exactly what you are being paid, until you take it upon yourself to find better. Maybe you can use those degrees to help you with that.
 
Well considering I was born and raised in the upstate of South Carolina I don't think I owe anyone an apology. And I used that state as an example because it has always carried the stigma of being "backwards"... just ask anyone who has lived there. Including my parents, grandparents, and great grandparents who all live(d) there.
And who says because I have two degrees that I should be getting paid more?
I do.
And if you think that is being arrogant, then you are grossly misinformed about the way the American economy is "supposed" to work.
Do you tell your kids to study hard so they can get into college and get a good job one day? I would hope so. I hope you don't tell them to try and be mediocre so they can land somewhere in the middle.
Fact is, a person who spends five years and $100,000 dollars on education should expect to make more than $10 an hour, don't you think?
If not, then what's the point of getting that higher education?
And you say "If you are just out of college with no experience you are just worth that amount. You get to start where most college educated people get to start...........
You're EXACTLY right. I'm not asking for a million dollars, I'm just asking for something starting at the $35-40k a year I was promised coming up...
And that fact of the matter is, that most of the companies have sent their engineers and scientists overseas, giving the jobs that I went to school for to someone else in another country.
What upset me about Limbaugh, is that he acts as if that is not the case.
 

bs21

Member
See listening to that kind of stuff just gets the blood pressure up. You can't argue with people ike him because they just don't care what you have to say and nothing you say will ever change their mind even if it is a valid point. While I would tend to agree with you on your comments about right wing media I would also say similar things about the left and the inbetween. It's more of an over all problem I think American media has where no matter what the story evryone has to put some spin onto it to try and make a statement. I would rather see news that reports events and FACTS about them so I can make up my own mind.
I think He used SC because there is an assumed stereotype about southerners being uneducated that alot of people have so by pretending to be one it is exactly the type of person Rush would want to belittle. Also with a college education I DO expect to make more than people who would be bagging groceries or doing countless manual labor/ blue collar jobs because MY education allows me to do a more specialized service. Which as stated above is the problem with the so called unemployment rate which lists any job but may not address other issues. So I could get a job for minimum wage but that doesn't mean I have money to feed/cloth/protect myself or contribute to the economy for that matter but at least I'm included in a statistic that masks the issues this country faces.
 

lovethesea

Active Member
I think most of us are teaching our children to work hard no matter what. I know some real bafoons that think they are above it all when it comes to their job and they are college educated. They become offended when someone in the company gets ahead on shear work ethic,and hard work. Maybe that person didn't have a degree and they had been with the company for years working their way up. Once you get your dream paying job, you will be amazed at how little that company thinks of you. Especially if you use your degrees as security with the company. Your degree (or two) will mean nothing when you bring on board the attitude that you are better than everyone and you deserve better pay. IMO college degrees are needed, but once you show an entitled attitude you will not get hired.
A lot of states are "backwards" in the eyes of others if the politics in that state don't suit their liking.
 
If I come across as having an attitude of entitlement, that's not what I was trying to do.
If someone works harder than me, then by all means they deserve the job more than I do.
No questions asked.
I just am sick and tired of the government (both sides of the isle here people) trying to make it look like the job situation isn't really that bad.
It is.
So instead of wasting time trying to use numbers to make us feel like its not really that bad... Why don't we do something to actually improve the job market. That's all I'm saying.
 

spanko

Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman View Post
Here's a couple of novel ideas; Either move to a State with a better economy than Ohio, or get a degree in a field that's in demand...

Originally Posted by AGENT-X
http:///forum/post/2575224


 
Yeah, force me to move to another state because all the jobs in the rustbelt went to China! What a novel idea!
Why not pretend it's the 1500's and I am a Native American chasing buffalo across the plains! I mean you gotta go where the food is, right?
Come on, are you serious? In the most advanced economy in the world, you expect people to just up and relocate because the jobs moved somewhere else?
That sounds like something you would see in a third world nomadic country...
 

agent-x

Member
Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid
http:///forum/post/2575260
Yeah, force me to move to another state because all the jobs in the rustbelt went to China! What a novel idea!
Why not pretend it's the 1500's and I am a Native American chasing buffalo across the plains! I mean you gotta go where the food is, right?
Come on, are you serious? In the most advanced economy in the world, you expect people to just up and relocate because the jobs moved somewhere else?
That sounds like something you would see in a third world nomadic country...

People relocate all the time for better Jobs, or to move up in a company. Heck I've done it twice and ended up much better off each time.
 
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