Another Disgusting Oil Spill!!
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reefraff
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With the news coming out about the real costs of the health care debacle Obama has to raise money wherever he can find it. After the November blood letting expect Obama to push an amnesty plan so the illegals have to pay a bunch of fines, to the feds, to gain citizenship.
I thought this would be appropriate
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=LO2eh6f5Go0
I thought this would be appropriate
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=LO2eh6f5Go0
mrdc
Active Member
Transocean wants their insurance money by using an old law.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37128693...s-us_business/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37128693...s-us_business/
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by mrdc
http:///forum/post/3268791
Transocean wants their insurance money by using an old law.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37128693...s-us_business/
I heard one guy who is an ex state supreme court justice say that he thought not only would the courts rule against them but they would probably fine them as well if the folks have to hire lawyers to fight it in court. Heck, Transocean isn't even on the hood yet and they are already squirming.
http:///forum/post/3268791
Transocean wants their insurance money by using an old law.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37128693...s-us_business/
I heard one guy who is an ex state supreme court justice say that he thought not only would the courts rule against them but they would probably fine them as well if the folks have to hire lawyers to fight it in court. Heck, Transocean isn't even on the hood yet and they are already squirming.
zman1
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3268691
blood letting
Wasn't that the healthcare rage for centuries ?... Standard of care defacto...
Hey it took 600 years for the Vatican to agree to the fact that the earth revolved around the Sun.
http:///forum/post/3268691
blood letting
Wasn't that the healthcare rage for centuries ?... Standard of care defacto...
zman1
Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3268557
Lefties love to point this out. .
hypocrisy? it's easy
http:///forum/post/3268557
Lefties love to point this out. .
hypocrisy? it's easy
zman1
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3268623
Work hard, I am hoping for a increase in my disability check next year
.
You are nobody’s slave. Look at Steven Hawkins!
My cousin is for all practical purposes a quadriplegic and has loss of speech. Sad, since prior to this neurological affliction issue, he was a healthy young man in his late 20’s early thirty when it started. He started with losing motor skills and then speech. Now in his early forties living with my aunt, abandoned by his wife. He has good days and bad days and 20 minutes to finish a sentence. The shame is, he was very artistic in his youth and would have been a genius graphic artist. He too is a Medicare and social security reliant person with now a 16 year old child. It is horrible to be handicapped. Not sure if there is anything he can actually do, that would allow him to be self sufficient without government support. He is not a Steven Hawkins. He will take more for his child and himself than he has ever paid into the government. Those of us that can and have been blessed with good heath should be willing to support. I support you both in taxes and GOODWILL…
http:///forum/post/3268623
Work hard, I am hoping for a increase in my disability check next year
You are nobody’s slave. Look at Steven Hawkins!
My cousin is for all practical purposes a quadriplegic and has loss of speech. Sad, since prior to this neurological affliction issue, he was a healthy young man in his late 20’s early thirty when it started. He started with losing motor skills and then speech. Now in his early forties living with my aunt, abandoned by his wife. He has good days and bad days and 20 minutes to finish a sentence. The shame is, he was very artistic in his youth and would have been a genius graphic artist. He too is a Medicare and social security reliant person with now a 16 year old child. It is horrible to be handicapped. Not sure if there is anything he can actually do, that would allow him to be self sufficient without government support. He is not a Steven Hawkins. He will take more for his child and himself than he has ever paid into the government. Those of us that can and have been blessed with good heath should be willing to support. I support you both in taxes and GOODWILL…
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/3268876
hypocrisy? it's easy
And yet as usual they through out these assinine accusations, and can't back it up...
http:///forum/post/3268876
hypocrisy? it's easy
And yet as usual they through out these assinine accusations, and can't back it up...
mrdc
Active Member
So now we don't even know how big this thing really is ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/14/us/14oil.html?hp
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/14/us/14oil.html?hp
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by mrdc
http:///forum/post/3268928
So now we don't even know how big this thing really is ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/14/us/14oil.html?hp
Personally, if I were BP I wouldn't want to pay for it either...
http:///forum/post/3268928
So now we don't even know how big this thing really is ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/14/us/14oil.html?hp
Personally, if I were BP I wouldn't want to pay for it either...
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/3268883
You are nobody’s slave. Look at Steven Hawkins!
My cousin is for all practical purposes a quadriplegic and has loss of speech. Sad, since prior to this neurological affliction issue, he was a healthy young man in his late 20’s early thirty when it started. He started with losing motor skills and then speech. Now in his early forties living with my aunt, abandoned by his wife. He has good days and bad days and 20 minutes to finish a sentence. The shame is, he was very artistic in his youth and would have been a genius graphic artist. He too is a Medicare and social security reliant person with now a 16 year old child. It is horrible to be handicapped. Not sure if there is anything he can actually do, that would allow him to be self sufficient without government support. He is not a Steven Hawkins. He will take more for his child and himself than he has ever paid into the government. Those of us that can and have been blessed with good heath should be willing to support. I support you both in taxes and GOODWILL…
That sucks.
We were looking at retraining and the workers comp decided they would rather pay me than retrain me. With my knowledge and background self employment in a home based business is my only real hope at employment, I ain't no Hawkings either. My biggest problem is the need to keep my bad leg elevated and not being able to sit in a standard chair. Pretty petty stuff compaired to your cousin.
http:///forum/post/3268883
You are nobody’s slave. Look at Steven Hawkins!
My cousin is for all practical purposes a quadriplegic and has loss of speech. Sad, since prior to this neurological affliction issue, he was a healthy young man in his late 20’s early thirty when it started. He started with losing motor skills and then speech. Now in his early forties living with my aunt, abandoned by his wife. He has good days and bad days and 20 minutes to finish a sentence. The shame is, he was very artistic in his youth and would have been a genius graphic artist. He too is a Medicare and social security reliant person with now a 16 year old child. It is horrible to be handicapped. Not sure if there is anything he can actually do, that would allow him to be self sufficient without government support. He is not a Steven Hawkins. He will take more for his child and himself than he has ever paid into the government. Those of us that can and have been blessed with good heath should be willing to support. I support you both in taxes and GOODWILL…
That sucks.
We were looking at retraining and the workers comp decided they would rather pay me than retrain me. With my knowledge and background self employment in a home based business is my only real hope at employment, I ain't no Hawkings either. My biggest problem is the need to keep my bad leg elevated and not being able to sit in a standard chair. Pretty petty stuff compaired to your cousin.
reefraff
Active Member
So now Obama is laying out new drilling rules. It would be nice if they put people in charge of implementing new procedures that actually knew something about the business. The guy he chose is from Denver and doesn't even have experience in land based drilling. Yep, that is a wonderful plan.
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3268987
So now Obama is laying out new drilling rules. It would be nice if they put people in charge of implementing new procedures that actually knew something about the business. The guy he chose is from Denver and doesn't even have experience in land based drilling. Yep, that is a wonderful plan.
Considering these people write a jobs bill when most of them have never created a single job (in the private sector) before, are you really that surprised?
http:///forum/post/3268987
So now Obama is laying out new drilling rules. It would be nice if they put people in charge of implementing new procedures that actually knew something about the business. The guy he chose is from Denver and doesn't even have experience in land based drilling. Yep, that is a wonderful plan.
Considering these people write a jobs bill when most of them have never created a single job (in the private sector) before, are you really that surprised?
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3269002
Considering these people write a jobs bill when most of them have never created a single job (in the private sector) before, are you really that surprised?
Yeah but I can hope. For all the crap the media gave Bush over Brownie, who at least had several years experience working as a assistant FEMA director you don't hear a fricken peep about Obama putting someone in charge of GM with Z E R O industry experience and someone in charge of oil drilling that thinks a mud line is something around a water hole.
http:///forum/post/3269002
Considering these people write a jobs bill when most of them have never created a single job (in the private sector) before, are you really that surprised?
Yeah but I can hope. For all the crap the media gave Bush over Brownie, who at least had several years experience working as a assistant FEMA director you don't hear a fricken peep about Obama putting someone in charge of GM with Z E R O industry experience and someone in charge of oil drilling that thinks a mud line is something around a water hole.
fishtaco
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3269026
Yeah but I can hope. For all the crap the media gave Bush over Brownie, who at least had several years experience working as a assistant FEMA director you don't hear a fricken peep about Obama putting someone in charge of GM with Z E R O industry experience and someone in charge of oil drilling that thinks a mud line is something around a water hole.
Bah, now we have proof over two adminstrations that your best plan in case of emergency is to run. I say we replace FEMA with the Thunderbirds are GO!
Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3269026
Yeah but I can hope. For all the crap the media gave Bush over Brownie, who at least had several years experience working as a assistant FEMA director you don't hear a fricken peep about Obama putting someone in charge of GM with Z E R O industry experience and someone in charge of oil drilling that thinks a mud line is something around a water hole.
Bah, now we have proof over two adminstrations that your best plan in case of emergency is to run. I say we replace FEMA with the Thunderbirds are GO!
Fishtaco
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3269097
Bah, now we have proof over two adminstrations that your best plan in case of emergency is to run. I say we replace FEMA with the Thunderbirds are GO!
Fishtaco
If they allocated the money they spend on FEMA to the states things would run a whole lot smoother. People like to think James Lee Witt had FEMA running like a top but that wasn't the case then either. These mega bureaucracies never run as intended.
http:///forum/post/3269097
Bah, now we have proof over two adminstrations that your best plan in case of emergency is to run. I say we replace FEMA with the Thunderbirds are GO!
Fishtaco
If they allocated the money they spend on FEMA to the states things would run a whole lot smoother. People like to think James Lee Witt had FEMA running like a top but that wasn't the case then either. These mega bureaucracies never run as intended.
mrdc
Active Member
Originally Posted by IbanEz
http:///forum/post/3269146
Why don't they let all these people with oil collecting contraptions help clean up the spill? I even saw kevin costner promoting some machine.
I just saw that on the news. They state that it will remove 97 percent of the oil so I say let them try.
http:///forum/post/3269146
Why don't they let all these people with oil collecting contraptions help clean up the spill? I even saw kevin costner promoting some machine.
I just saw that on the news. They state that it will remove 97 percent of the oil so I say let them try.
geridoc
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3268987
So now Obama is laying out new drilling rules. It would be nice if they put people in charge of implementing new procedures that actually knew something about the business. The guy he chose is from Denver and doesn't even have experience in land based drilling. Yep, that is a wonderful plan.
I almost agree with you. The problem is that offshore drilling has been regulated by people from the offshore drilling industry, and anyone with knowledge and experience in this will have spent considerable time in the industry. It is the same old "fox guarding the chicken coop" problem, and I don't know how to solve it.
http:///forum/post/3268987
So now Obama is laying out new drilling rules. It would be nice if they put people in charge of implementing new procedures that actually knew something about the business. The guy he chose is from Denver and doesn't even have experience in land based drilling. Yep, that is a wonderful plan.
I almost agree with you. The problem is that offshore drilling has been regulated by people from the offshore drilling industry, and anyone with knowledge and experience in this will have spent considerable time in the industry. It is the same old "fox guarding the chicken coop" problem, and I don't know how to solve it.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by GeriDoc
http:///forum/post/3269227
I almost agree with you. The problem is that offshore drilling has been regulated by people from the offshore drilling industry, and anyone with knowledge and experience in this will have spent considerable time in the industry. It is the same old "fox guarding the chicken coop" problem, and I don't know how to solve it.
I don't buy this logic, I work in the oil industry. Now I don't deal with the majors, (Exxon-Mobil, Shell, BP etc) but I do work and have spoken with the smaller companies. And well, these guys who manage these projects, and stuff, for the most part, they're outdoorsmen, fishermen etc. They're not out to ruin the environment, they spend every moment they're not working in it. Hunting fishing hiking etc. Now I"m not saying regulation isn't nessessary, I'm just saying this picture painted by the people in power today, one of a greedy oil executive not caring about anything but money is inaccurate. And this idea that people who've worked in industry X can't be fair in regulating it.
http:///forum/post/3269227
I almost agree with you. The problem is that offshore drilling has been regulated by people from the offshore drilling industry, and anyone with knowledge and experience in this will have spent considerable time in the industry. It is the same old "fox guarding the chicken coop" problem, and I don't know how to solve it.
I don't buy this logic, I work in the oil industry. Now I don't deal with the majors, (Exxon-Mobil, Shell, BP etc) but I do work and have spoken with the smaller companies. And well, these guys who manage these projects, and stuff, for the most part, they're outdoorsmen, fishermen etc. They're not out to ruin the environment, they spend every moment they're not working in it. Hunting fishing hiking etc. Now I"m not saying regulation isn't nessessary, I'm just saying this picture painted by the people in power today, one of a greedy oil executive not caring about anything but money is inaccurate. And this idea that people who've worked in industry X can't be fair in regulating it.