Originally Posted by
bionicarm
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OK, what was the meaning behind this statement?
"I know you are going to say we can't free everyone. I disagree, it just takes time. I am also one of the few that believes we should go in any country that does not afford their citizens the same rights."
Sounds to me like you want to liberate any country you deem needs it.
Why do you feel the American people should continually spend their hard-earned money on every country in this world that has encountered conflict and plight? So do you expect us to fund rebuilding Israel and Gaza after they're done blowing each other to pieces? You actuallly believe a few million bucks rebuilding schools would deter the Taliban an Al-Qaeda inhabiting Afghanistan after the Soviet Union was ousted? that's quite a stretch of the imagination if you ask me.
I see what you mean. Reagan's legacy also includes the Iran-Contra Affair. Hmm, look where we stand with Iran today because of that little snafu. Sorry, but it's virtually impossible to predict the future based on current historic events. You have no clue as to the cause and effect of any of our current actions in Iraq. Iraq could turn out like you're dreaming it will - the balanced Democratic society where all the various tribal entities get along and continue to rebuild Iraq into a successful thriving country. Or, it will do the opposite and simply continue to be a volitile area that it has been for centuries. Only time will tell.
Any place where government rapes and kills it's own people, YES we should get involved. To not do so, is heartless. See I find it funny that so many people such as yourself talk about Global warming and what we are doing to our planet, but yet you are willing to turn a blind eye to a government killing and raping it's own people. I get it, save the planet, but forget the humans.
No I don't believe just a few million bucks wouyld have made the difference, but I do believe if we had funded a rebuild to the level we supplied weapons at THAT may have. See, in your case, the argument is they are violent people and always will be. So don't bother. Yet I find that argument so pathetic. This is exactly why our country no longer leads the world in anything. Because we don't try, because we don't risk, because we ACCEPT IT AS THE WAY IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN!
You want to change the world you have to actually make an attempt. You want to make the world a better place, you have to try. Or we can keep things how they have been and just stick our heads in the dirt. Like you want.
I don't KNOW how Iraq is going to turn out in 20 years, but atleast now I see hope. Isn't this what your President ran off of was hope. Look how much hope is costing us in our own country, and when you compare the rebuild cost in Iraq to our own stimulus packages it will end up being peanuts. But with what is happening in Iraq, atleast I see a change...atleast maybe in the future the next generation will view our efforts differently.
You bring up the Iran Contra affair, let's Bring up Clinton's N. Korea deal.....look where doing nothing got us with that. Now compare what those two situations differed on with how we handled the rebuild in Iraq. The first two incidents helped the governments of those country. The Iraq Rebuild, helped the PEOPLE, AND IN TURN THAT HELPED THEIR GOVERNMENT. Only by directly helping the people in their daily lives can you get a populace to understand and respect you. Selling them guns and showing them to fight does nothing, unless after they fight you show them how to live on afterwards.
That has been our problem with every war AFTER WW2. There is a reason England and France and Europe has been our allies for so long. Not because our military helped put an end to their oppression under Hitler, but because our citizens also helped them to rebuild their once great countries.
