Bad News Please Read This

florida joe

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Almost half of the coral reef ecosystems in the United States territory are in poor or fair condition, mostly due to rising ocean temperatures. This is according to a government report released Monday July 7th 2008. The reefs discussed in the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Admin. Report serves as breeding grounds for many of the world’s seafood species and act as indicators of overall ocean health.
25 percent of all marine species need coral reefs to live and grow, while 40 percent of the fish caught commercially use reefs to breed.
Since the last report in 2005, the Caribbean region has lost at least 50 percent of its corals largely because of the risen in sea temperatures.
ELKHORN and STAGHORN corals have also been listed as threatened under the Endangered Species Act, the first corals ever to receive such protection based on rapid declines.
The 569-page report took 18 months to complete and was released at the 11th International Coral Reef Symposium in Fort Lauderdale.
It does not paint a pretty picture of our world reefs but it is important reading for all of us.
Please if you have the time seek it out and read it.
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
All computers will crash at 12:00 am on Jan.1,2000......
The ice caps are melting.......Global Warming.........
If someone is getting paid millions of dollars to write a 569 page report that took 18 months to write,well they better have some bad news for us.
"The sky is falling ,the sky is falling!!"
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2678749
All computers will crash at 12:00 am on Jan.1,2000......
The ice caps are melting.......Global Warming.........
If someone is getting paid millions of dollars to write a 569 page report that took 18 months to write,well they better have some bad news for us.
"The sky is falling ,the sky is falling!!"
Yea I guess you are right *watch the language!!!!!* it who cares anyway
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2678755
Yea I guess you are right who cares anyway
Heh eh,now thats a better attitude.
I have to say this ,if the temp of the oceans keeps rising and the polar caps melt,Florida will soon be consumed by the ocean.Now then, we will have a natural disaster on our hands,all that land locked pollution will now be released into our oceans.
Beer cans,plastic baggies, garbage all over our ocean floors....
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2678779
Heh eh,now thats a better attitude.
I have to say this ,if the temp of the oceans keeps rising and the polar caps melt,Florida will soon be consumed by the ocean.Now then, we will have a natural disaster on our hands,all that land locked pollution will now be released into our oceans.
Beer cans,plastic baggies, garbage all over our ocean floors....
What will I care I will move to New Lenox Il. That is if I can find it on the map. I mean it is a real place right. oh what the hell happened to old lenox. Ok I found it. The problem was I was not looking under villages.
 

sepulatian

Moderator
The site isn't working too well at the moment, or perhaps it is my computer. I only got half way through the facts sheet on this. I will say my take on it though. It is certainly a concern. Not just the raising water temperature but all of the things that are contributing to the damage of the reefs such as pollution, over fishing, global warming, poor collection practices etc. As for the elevation of temperatures, it is my humble opinion that many species will adapt to the changing water conditions, others will evolve. Certainly species will be lost. Not that that isn't a concern, it is. The reefs have been around for a very long time though. I am sure that the water conditions are not the same as they once were.
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2678943
What will I care I will move to New Lenox Il. That is if I can find it on the map. I mean it is a real place right. oh what the hell happened to old lenox. Ok I found it. The problem was I was not looking under villages.
LOL ...my,my arent we sensitive.Sure you can find New Lenox its right next to that big ole city Chicago.The city thats going Green and doing its part to prevent "GLOBAL WARMING"

BTW i didnt mean to offend you if that indeed is what i did.I was just stating my own personal opinion and wasnt aiming to step on your toes.
 

t316

Active Member
This use to concern me, but not much anymore. Look back and read Alix2.0's research paper she did. If they were that worried about it, they could build as many "reefs" as they wanted, anywhere in the world. If the temps are to high in one area, move to a cooler location. It's really not as hard as it once seemed. And if we can build the kind of reefs we have in our living rooms, just think of what can be done in the ocean.
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member

Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2679144
LOL ...my,my arent we sensitive.Sure you can find New Lenox its right next to that big ole city Chicago.The city thats going Green and doing its part to prevent "GLOBAL WARMING"

BTW i didnt mean to offend you if that indeed is what i did.I was just stating my own personal opinion and wasnt aiming to step on your toes.
My friend no offence taken
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by T316
http:///forum/post/2679475
This use to concern me, but not much anymore. Look back and read Alix2.0's research paper she did. If they were that worried about it, they could build as many "reefs" as they wanted, anywhere in the world. If the temps are to high in one area, move to a cooler location. It's really not as hard as it once seemed. And if we can build the kind of reefs we have in our living rooms, just think of what can be done in the ocean.
Actually Florida is undertaking a vast artificial reef project http://www.floridaconservation.org/marine/ar/index.asp
 

texasmetal

Active Member
No doubt mankind has contributed to a lot of natures problems, the majority of natures problems really. But Earths climate has shifted occasionally throughout history, even long before we began creating industrial waste.
As others said, nature will balance itself out. Some creatures will adapt, some will go extinct, some will become totally new species. Maybe that will include some culling of the human herd in the process. Some call it disaster. I call it renewal.
 

guzman825

Member
the crowned thorn star fish is becoming way over populated. in 10 years or so it can cover the great berrier reef. not just cover it but FILL it.
 

texasmetal

Active Member
Originally Posted by guzman825
http:///forum/post/2683921
the crowned thorn star fish is becoming way over populated. in 10 years or so it can cover the great berrier reef. not just cover it but FILL it.
And so without human intervention it was meant to be. Survival of the fittest. Sucks for us in our own selfish human way, but it's the way nature intended. Otherwise a natural predator would eliminate and balance the threat.
 

t316

Active Member
Originally Posted by guzman825
http:///forum/post/2683921
the crowned thorn star fish is becoming way over populated. in 10 years or so it can cover the great berrier reef. not just cover it but FILL it.
Being at the top of the food chain, we "humans" should be able to solve that one....

Can they be grilled, smoked, what....
Not familiar with that species, but I have always been willing to try new things
 
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