Big Bang Theory .... Who lit the fuse?

mantisman51

mantisman51

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Buddah said "in nature we find the meaning of life" (or something quite similiar). There is a flower in the Amazon rainforest that can only be pollinated by a hummingbird with a very specific beak. Conversely, the hummingbird can only live on the nectar of that specific flower. If evolution is correct; what came first-the flower or the bird? If either one came first as an accident of mutation, how did it or the other survive before the other. There are hundreds of co-dependant species around the world. How can that be? The day the flower grew with it's genetic mutation, did the bird just happen to hatch with the correct mutation? Just questions-nothing more.
 
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tizzo

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Originally Posted by uneverno
http:///forum/post/3082473
How so?
Yes, theory contains an element of faith. However, science adapts when proven wrong. ?

To create a scenario in a controlled environment, alter said environment and study the results of the change, then being able to recreate that change... That's science. To "adapt when proven wrong" means it was never proven right and is then, only theory.
Science is proven. Ideas, hypotheses and theories are religion.
Creation, evolution, big bang, all that =religion.
 
tangman99

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Argue the point with Richard Dawkins who is known as the "open and shut case for evolution". If you have never heard of him, do a search. Interesting man. Here is a small clip of him being interviewed by Bill O'Reilly. I personally will put the fish with legs that says "Darwin" on my car as what I mostly believe as truth. I won't claim I'm an athiest as I do believe in a "higher power" but nothing like what you find taught in religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FARDDcdFaQ
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Can someone explain to me the difference between a "higher power" and a "god"....does changing the term make it easier for a person to accept this concept?
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3082734
Can someone explain to me the difference between a "higher power" and a "god"....does changing the term make it easier for a person to accept this concept?
Yes, becase some "interesting people" think the higher power is an alien
 
mantisman51

mantisman51

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In the Bible and Q'ran there are verses that state the same thing basically; that men are given a need to believe in God. In the scripture it states, "All men are given a measure of faith..." If there is no God, why has there not been an atheist early civilization: why has all history of man filled with their view of God and not the lack of a God? Why are we programmed to believe in a God? To say survival was hard and nothing was easy, so it gave comfort to early man to believe and have a purpose to their lives is a red herring. In all those societies, was there not strong-willed men and women who could see past the superstition and lead their people into the atheistic freedom from such superstition?
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by mantisman51
http:///forum/post/3082839
In the Bible and Q'ran there are verses that state the same thing basically; that men are given a need to believe in God. In the scripture it states, "All men are given a measure of faith..." If there is no God, why has there not been an atheist early civilization: why has all history of man filled with their view of God and not the lack of a God? Why are we programmed to believe in a God? To say survival was hard and nothing was easy, so it gave comfort to early man to believe and have a purpose to their lives is a red herring. In all those societies, was there not strong-willed men and women who could see past the superstition and lead their people into the atheistic freedom from such superstition?
If the Old and New Testaments were never written, would religion or God ever exist?
 
kspops

kspops

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Originally Posted by mantisman51
http:///forum/post/3082839
In the Bible and Q'ran there are verses that state the same thing basically; that men are given a need to believe in God. In the scripture it states, "All men are given a measure of faith..." If there is no God, why has there not been an atheist early civilization: why has all history of man filled with their view of God and not the lack of a God? Why are we programmed to believe in a God? To say survival was hard and nothing was easy, so it gave comfort to early man to believe and have a purpose to their lives is a red herring. In all those societies, was there not strong-willed men and women who could see past the superstition and lead their people into the atheistic freedom from such superstition?
In most cases where this would have happened, I can see only 1 outcome, (but by different means), They would have been persecuted and or prosecuted as heretics or witches...
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3082947
If the Old and New Testaments were never written, would religion or God ever exist?
Ok, lets think about this. The indins had a religion and god before ever hearing of the bible. The Mayans had a form, Then their were the greek and roman gods.....There are tribes in africa that worship a god or gods...
each had their own representation.....however there still was a religion and a god or gods....so what do you think?
 
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