Bubbles on my new lr, what to do.?

meowzer

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Originally Posted by BTLDreef
http:///forum/post/3138495
Prime will help detox nitrites and ammonia and nitrates. She had it, so why not use it to help a little. We use it with every water change and almost always have low, close to zero readings on nitrate. We're extremely obsessive with keeping our tank clean, but it definitely does help, 2 of the 3 LFS's by me and a lot of our friends in the hobby also add Prime as a safe measure.
So you are using it as a water conditioner???
not criticizing...BTW...Just curious
 

btldreef

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Originally Posted by Tax lady
http:///forum/post/3138491
did a 5 gallon water change this morning and added some prime. Seems like nitrates went down some. Seems to be reading about 25. I really can't tell. the lfs told me that you put the container over the colors and when you can't see one anymore its that reading, so if I went by that it would be 10. Can't believe that though case the color was still pretty purple.
Dont' know anything about a skimmer, don't know where it would fit in tank cause it is an aquapod which has all the built in stuff. Anyway I will put some more prime in tomorrow morning before I leave. Hope that will help.
Thanks for all the help you have been.
Btw the bubbles were gone, I thought, today when i changed the water, but saw them tonight.

You should also siphon out as much of those bubbles as you can. If you're not sure of your readings, the next time you go the the LFS take some of your water with you and have them test it for you.
I do not personally have experience with the Aquapod. One of our tanks is a BioCube by Oceanic, same concept of the all in one unit. Oceanic makes a protein skimmer that fits in the filter/sump area and might work in your tank as well. It wasn't that expensive either, $40? if I remember correctly.
 

tax lady

Member
Originally Posted by BTLDreef
http:///forum/post/3138498
You should also siphon out as much of those bubbles as you can. If you're not sure of your readings, the next time you go the the LFS take some of your water with you and have them test it for you.
I do not personally have experience with the Aquapod. One of our tanks is a BioCube by Oceanic, same concept of the all in one unit. Oceanic makes a protein skimmer that fits in the filter/sump area and might work in your tank as well. It wasn't that expensive either, $40? if I remember correctly.
I will definitely look into that.
 

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Tax lady
http:///forum/post/3138497
Read above.
I did....I just never add stuff...you need to find the problem and fixit...IMO by adding stuff you are masking it, and making it harder to determine the real issues
 

tax lady

Member
Originally Posted by BTLDreef
http:///forum/post/3138498
You should also siphon out as much of those bubbles as you can. If you're not sure of your readings, the next time you go the the LFS take some of your water with you and have them test it for you.
I do not personally have experience with the Aquapod. One of our tanks is a BioCube by Oceanic, same concept of the all in one unit. Oceanic makes a protein skimmer that fits in the filter/sump area and might work in your tank as well. It wasn't that expensive either, $40? if I remember correctly.
Like I said before about the lfs I went to last puts the container on top of the colors to see when he doesn't see the color anymore. I do not think that is right..But I will take some next time I go after I come back in town.
 

tax lady

Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3138504
I did....I just never add stuff...you need to find the problem and fixit...IMO by adding stuff you are masking it, and making it harder to determine the real issues
Meowser, that is what I had been reading all along and is the reason i did not use the prime before, but as you see here BTL says it will do some good. So now I am confused. I have been trying all along to just do water changes and never seem to be able to get the nitrates down.
 

tax lady

Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3138504
I did....I just never add stuff...you need to find the problem and fixit...IMO by adding stuff you are masking it, and making it harder to determine the real issues
But I have not been able to find the problem...
Even when myother lsf said tht my readings were good some time ago, all my stuff was dying anyway. I have been stumped!
 

btldreef

Moderator
Originally Posted by Tax lady
http:///forum/post/3138507
Like I said before about the lfs I went to last puts the container on top of the colors to see when he doesn't see the color anymore. I do not think that is right..But I will take some next time I go after I come back in town.
Yeah, but they're supposed to do it for a living?? lol I usually compare the color by holding the vile right next to the card and then roll it over, see how close the two look. It's all by eye so it's not an exact science.
As to the Prime issue, NO it is not a cure, but since you have it, it will definitely help. You definitely still need to find out what caused the problem, which I believe is 1 of 3 things, if not all: 1) water quality of added water (Prime will help this problem and I highly recommend adding Prime to your water that you are adding during water changes and top offs), 2) No Protein Skimmer, 3) the addition of live rock, which had a little die off.
You should be fine if you stay on top of it, siphon what you can, add some prime, look into getting a protein skimmer. If you seem to get the parameters under control, try adding some CUC inverts again. In the mean time, don't feed as much as you normally do, it'll help until you find a protein skimmer.
I forgot to mention earlier that your inverts may have been dying because of the nitrates as well as salinity. Inverts don't like their water messed with, lol.
 

meowzer

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I do not see where you have tested your phosphates?
Also I have no clue what a 24 pod filter is....I think you should get a protein skimmer
what do you have for flow? What fis hare i nthis tank? What do you feed? What do you use for top off?
sorry if some of this is repetitive
PRIME may also throw off your test results...(from what I have read)
 

btldreef

Moderator
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3138496
So you are using it as a water conditioner???
not criticizing...BTW...Just curious

I guess? I really don't need to, my RO/DI unit works very well.
Here's how I use Prime:
Add to each water change of top off. Add whenever I add inverts, fish or LR. Add if there is a little spike in nitrates (which I'd also do a water change, but if it's 8am and I'm running out the door, Prime will hold it until 4 when I get home.)
I am not a fan of using chemicals, especially without finding out what the cause of the problem is, but Prime is one of the few chemicals that I really do like and use quite often.
 

tax lady

Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3138516
I do not see where you have tested your phosphates?
Also I have no clue what a 24 pod filter is....I think you should get a protein skimmer
what do you have for flow? What fis hare i nthis tank? What do you feed? What do you use for top off?
sorry if some of this is repetitive
PRIME may also throw off your test results...(from what I have read)
I have to look and see if I have a phosphate tester.
24 gal aquapod with the filtr in the back of tank in compartment. came with the tank.
Nothing for flow except the filter.
fish--2 clowns, diam goby, thats all. then a lta, toadstool, zos, other sm coralsl and some hermits and snails. I want to get a ps but they keep dying on me. Also a bunch of my snails died along with other corals.
food- mysis, brine sh,pellets and rarely flakes. Silverside to lta.
 

meowzer

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I really think you need a protein skimmer, and to add acouple of powerheads
also how much of that food do you feed at a time?
 

btldreef

Moderator
From what I am reading, Aquapods have a specific Protein Skimmer that is made for them. Google: Protein skimmer for aquapod 24.
 

btldreef

Moderator
Out of curiosity, are you using the bio balls that came with the Aquapod? And what is the temp in your tank? I was just talking to a friend that has your tank and she said she had corals dying from heat. Metal halides on a closed system like the Aquapod can get very hot, possibly another issue?
I still really do think you need a protein skimmer, ASAP. IMO, you should not have fish without one, too many issues.
 

tax lady

Member
o k i'm sold. Will get a skimmer. Was reading about Cyano and it is the red slime and
I have had that for a while now. on the glass, that is.
temp now is about 78. Was up to 82 in the heat of summer. Don't know what to do about that. Whenever it seemed to be getting higher than that I threw some ice in...but that was only a few times.
Bio balls, had some. Think I got rid of them. may have one or two left in tank, don't know.
I was reading about the skimmers for 24 aqpd and seems like it will not fit in back of tank except where the sponge filters are. And some say to take out the sponges and just leave the skimmer in.. Don't know if that is correct. Please comment on that.
thanks fo rall the info.
 
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