crashbandicoot
Active Member
Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2566877
Pretty much. I reject "facts" that really are not facts, just talking points.
And inject your own reality ?
http:///forum/post/2566877
Pretty much. I reject "facts" that really are not facts, just talking points.
And inject your own reality ?
suzy
Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2566820
Why has the US been designated the Protector Of The World? Why are we responsible for maintaining human rights for every stinking country on Earth?
Rude, this war is not about human rights. You and I both know that. These guys want to take the high ground, so they don't have to question anything they've been thinking the last few decades.
But, isn't is interesting to watch the change in the Cons ideology about nation building? Just a few years back they were totally against it. Now, bringing democracy to the world is not only on their agenda, they are going to promote it no matter what. Interesting, albeit a bit odd for those of watching, but interesting nontheless. I find the fact that they are not only willing to sacrifice lives of our sons and innocent lives of the Iraqis, but they are willing to spend trillions of dollars to do it.
It's a changing party, that's for sure. One extreme to another....
http:///forum/post/2566820
Why has the US been designated the Protector Of The World? Why are we responsible for maintaining human rights for every stinking country on Earth?
Rude, this war is not about human rights. You and I both know that. These guys want to take the high ground, so they don't have to question anything they've been thinking the last few decades.
But, isn't is interesting to watch the change in the Cons ideology about nation building? Just a few years back they were totally against it. Now, bringing democracy to the world is not only on their agenda, they are going to promote it no matter what. Interesting, albeit a bit odd for those of watching, but interesting nontheless. I find the fact that they are not only willing to sacrifice lives of our sons and innocent lives of the Iraqis, but they are willing to spend trillions of dollars to do it.
It's a changing party, that's for sure. One extreme to another....
suzy
Member
Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2566881
And inject your own reality ?
You think I should inject YOUR reality?
http:///forum/post/2566881
And inject your own reality ?
You think I should inject YOUR reality?
crashbandicoot
Active Member
Originally Posted by Suzy
http:///forum/post/2566897
You think I should inject YOUR reality?
Please no . You do us all a lot more justice arguing your insanity for the obama camp .
http:///forum/post/2566897
You think I should inject YOUR reality?
Please no . You do us all a lot more justice arguing your insanity for the obama camp .
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2566820
Why has the US been designated the Protector Of The World? Why are we responsible for maintaining human rights for every stinking country on Earth?
Because democrats and liberals have us concerned with famine in africa, human rights issues in Tibet...what do you expect?
http:///forum/post/2566820
Why has the US been designated the Protector Of The World? Why are we responsible for maintaining human rights for every stinking country on Earth?
Because democrats and liberals have us concerned with famine in africa, human rights issues in Tibet...what do you expect?
rudedog40
Member
Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2566843
Why are we not responsable for helping to build a better world for everybody ? Why are we not in a position as a super power to place democracy into countries that badly need it ?
Why not let the chinese and the rusians go in and install a comunistic regiem ? Do you really need me to cover this ?
Why not let the north koreans go in and set up a comunist dictatorship ? How is allowing another country to become a nuclear capable entity controlled by militan radical idealists a good idea ?
As for your referance to the TV show . Sorry I have never seen this show so I can not comment on it . But I can say that no other country could or would help us out . Because if the U.S.A is out of the global picture than that allows the radicals to go hog wild and take more and more until the western civilization is extinct .
Please tell me how backing our selves into a cowering corner is a good position to be in ?
Crash, your arrogant ego about our country being the Dominant Power of The World is what keeps other nations hating us so much. You actually think the modern civilizations of the World would cease to exist because we're not around? You chastise Russian and Chinese political philosophies, but they've been working for them alot longer than this country has been around. If they didn't, they wouldn't exist and thrive as they do today. What you think are backwards or abhorant living conditions, are just natural occurrances for people who live in different regions of the world. I think living in an igloo or in sub-zero temperatures stupid. But don't tell that to an Eskimo. You may think Communism, Socialism, or any other form of government besides Democracy leads to evil and the end of humanity, but it's just a normal way of life for a majority of the people who live on this Earth. I think it's pathetic that certain people in this country think it's our duty to stuff our philosophies down other cultures throats simply because they disagree with the ones they been living with for centuries.
http:///forum/post/2566843
Why are we not responsable for helping to build a better world for everybody ? Why are we not in a position as a super power to place democracy into countries that badly need it ?
Why not let the chinese and the rusians go in and install a comunistic regiem ? Do you really need me to cover this ?
Why not let the north koreans go in and set up a comunist dictatorship ? How is allowing another country to become a nuclear capable entity controlled by militan radical idealists a good idea ?
As for your referance to the TV show . Sorry I have never seen this show so I can not comment on it . But I can say that no other country could or would help us out . Because if the U.S.A is out of the global picture than that allows the radicals to go hog wild and take more and more until the western civilization is extinct .
Please tell me how backing our selves into a cowering corner is a good position to be in ?
Crash, your arrogant ego about our country being the Dominant Power of The World is what keeps other nations hating us so much. You actually think the modern civilizations of the World would cease to exist because we're not around? You chastise Russian and Chinese political philosophies, but they've been working for them alot longer than this country has been around. If they didn't, they wouldn't exist and thrive as they do today. What you think are backwards or abhorant living conditions, are just natural occurrances for people who live in different regions of the world. I think living in an igloo or in sub-zero temperatures stupid. But don't tell that to an Eskimo. You may think Communism, Socialism, or any other form of government besides Democracy leads to evil and the end of humanity, but it's just a normal way of life for a majority of the people who live on this Earth. I think it's pathetic that certain people in this country think it's our duty to stuff our philosophies down other cultures throats simply because they disagree with the ones they been living with for centuries.
crashbandicoot
Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2567036
Crash, your arrogant ego about our country being the Dominant Power of The World is what keeps other nations hating us so much. You actually think the modern civilizations of the World would cease to exist because we're not around? You chastise Russian and Chinese political philosophies, but they've been working for them alot longer than this country has been around.
Oh really ? Tell that to tebet . Also since it has been working so well please explain the down fall of russia in the 90's . Or the fact that communism is a basiclay recent ideal .
If they didn't, they wouldn't exist and thrive as they do today. What you think are backwards or abhorant living conditions, are just natural occurrances for people who live in different regions of the world. I think living in an igloo or in sub-zero temperatures stupid. But don't tell that to an Eskimo.
Really so eskimos have rejected modern housing ? modern convienences such as heat and running water ?
You may think Communism, Socialism, or any other form of government besides Democracy leads to evil and the end of humanity, but it's just a normal way of life for a majority of the people who live on this Earth.
Being forced to live in fear and poverty
I think it's pathetic that certain people in this country think it's our duty to stuff our philosophies down other cultures throats simply because they disagree with the ones they been living with for centuries. But yet you back obama and the changes he is sugesting our country needs ?
1journeyman
Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2567036
... You chastise Russian and Chinese political philosophies, but they've been working for them alot longer than this country has been around ...
Wrong. Communism befell the Soviets during WW1. They are no longer, strictly speaking, Communist. China during WW2. Therefore, combined, their political philosophies haven't been around as long as ours.
Originally Posted by Rudedoge
You may think Communism, Socialism, or any other form of government besides Democracy leads to evil and the end of humanity, but it's just a normal way of life for a majority of the people who live on this Earth.
Approx. 40 million people died in the Soviet Union during Stalin's purge. No one knows how many millions in China have died. Does that really sound like a "normal" way of life to you?
Originally Posted by Rudedog
I think it's pathetic that certain people in this country think it's our duty to stuff our philosophies down other cultures throats simply because they disagree with the ones they been living with for centuries.
Please clarify your statement regarding the history of Communism and then we can address the rest.
http:///forum/post/2567036
... You chastise Russian and Chinese political philosophies, but they've been working for them alot longer than this country has been around ...
Wrong. Communism befell the Soviets during WW1. They are no longer, strictly speaking, Communist. China during WW2. Therefore, combined, their political philosophies haven't been around as long as ours.
Originally Posted by Rudedoge
You may think Communism, Socialism, or any other form of government besides Democracy leads to evil and the end of humanity, but it's just a normal way of life for a majority of the people who live on this Earth.
Approx. 40 million people died in the Soviet Union during Stalin's purge. No one knows how many millions in China have died. Does that really sound like a "normal" way of life to you?
Originally Posted by Rudedog
I think it's pathetic that certain people in this country think it's our duty to stuff our philosophies down other cultures throats simply because they disagree with the ones they been living with for centuries.
Please clarify your statement regarding the history of Communism and then we can address the rest.
rudedog40
Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2567050
Wrong. Communism befell the Soviets during WW1. They are no longer, strictly speaking, Communist. China during WW2. Therefore, combined, their political philosophies haven't been around as long as ours.
Approx. 40 million people died in the Soviet Union during Stalin's purge. No one knows how many millions in China have died. Does that really sound like a "normal" way of life to you?
Please clarify your statement regarding the history of Communism and then we can address the rest.
Why should I have to clarify anything? You you make it sound like the US is this rosy Xanadu that has never had any pain or strife. Sure millions have died in China. But figure the percentages. There's what, three times as people living in China than the US? Death is relative. How many 'American's' died in the Spanish-American War, the Civil War, the War with England?
You want to compare the recent political changes in Russia over their entire history? Give me a break. Russia literally invented Communism. Befell in WW1? What history class have you been too?
The Communist Party of the Soviet Union (Russian: Коммунисти́ческая Па́ртия Сове́тского Сою́за, transliterated Kommunisticheskaya Partiya Sovetskogo Soyuza, acronym: КПСС (KPSS)) was the ruling political party in the Soviet Union. It emerged in 1912 as the Bolshevik faction of the Russian Social-Democratic Labour Party created a separate party. The party led the October Revolution, which led to the establishment of a socialist state in Russia. The party was dissolved in 1991, at the time of the breakup of the Soviet Union.
AGAIN. What is 'normal' for you, is completely different for people in other cultures. You may look at thier lifestyles as less civil, even barbaric, but at the same time they look at our lifestyles to be eccentric and overbearing.
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2567036
You chastise Russian and Chinese political philosophies, but they've been working for them alot longer than this country has been around. .
I think I speak for many others here when I say huh?
Russia and China combined haven't existed under their most recent long-lived form of gvernment, communism as the US. China since 1949, Russia in 1917 until.... Heck they look like they're headed back that way so give credit up till today.
http:///forum/post/2567036
You chastise Russian and Chinese political philosophies, but they've been working for them alot longer than this country has been around. .
I think I speak for many others here when I say huh?
Russia and China combined haven't existed under their most recent long-lived form of gvernment, communism as the US. China since 1949, Russia in 1917 until.... Heck they look like they're headed back that way so give credit up till today.
1journeyman
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2567241
I think I speak for many others here when I say huh?
Russia and China combined haven't existed under their most recent long-lived form of gvernment, communism as the US. China since 1949, Russia in 1917 until.... Heck they look like they're headed back that way so give credit up till today.
Exactly what I tried to explain to him in my above thread...
http:///forum/post/2567241
I think I speak for many others here when I say huh?
Russia and China combined haven't existed under their most recent long-lived form of gvernment, communism as the US. China since 1949, Russia in 1917 until.... Heck they look like they're headed back that way so give credit up till today.
Exactly what I tried to explain to him in my above thread...
crashbandicoot
Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2567211
Why should I have to clarify anything? You you make it sound like the US is this rosy Xanadu that has never had any pain or strife. Sure millions have died in China. But figure the percentages. There's what, three times as people living in China than the US? Death is relative. How many 'American's' died in the Spanish-American War, the Civil War, the War with England?
You want to compare the recent political changes in Russia over their entire history? Give me a break. Russia literally invented Communism. Befell in WW1? What history class have you been too?
The Communist Party of the Soviet Union (Russian: Коммунисти́ческая Па́ртия Сове́тского Сою́за, transliterated Kommunisticheskaya Partiya Sovetskogo Soyuza, acronym: КПСС (KPSS)) was the ruling political party in the Soviet Union. It emerged in 1912 as the Bolshevik faction of the Russian Social-Democratic Labour Party created a separate party. The party led the October Revolution, which led to the establishment of a socialist state in Russia. The party was dissolved in 1991, at the time of the breakup of the Soviet Union.
AGAIN. What is 'normal' for you, is completely different for people in other cultures. You may look at thier lifestyles as less civil, even barbaric, but at the same time they look at our lifestyles to be eccentric and overbearing.
So explain to me how the 79 years that the comunist party held power in russia is a far longer lived political movment than democracy ? Because your copy and pasty wikapedia answer has me confused as to how your point is proven ?
Also still waiting on a link that shows how eskimos have shuned modern living for igloo's .
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2567275
Exactly what I tried to explain to him in my above thread...
I started to post and decided to double check so you beat me to the punch
The First commie revolution in Russia was attempted in 1905, not 1912.
http:///forum/post/2567275
Exactly what I tried to explain to him in my above thread...
I started to post and decided to double check so you beat me to the punch
1journeyman
Active Member
Rudedog, come one... You're flailing wildly here. You started off saying:
Originally Posted by Rudedog
...You chastise Russian and Chinese political philosophies, but they've been working for them alot longer than this country has been around
That is absurd. Communism didn't occur until 1921 when the Russian Civil war ended. The Chinese Communists took over in 1949.
Now, please explain to me how either of those countries' political philosophies have been around "alot longer than this country has been around"???
Originally Posted by Rudedog
Why should I have to clarify anything? You you make it sound like the US is this rosy Xanadu that has never had any pain or strife. Sure millions have died in China. But figure the percentages. There's what, three times as people living in China than the US? Death is relative. How many 'American's' died in the Spanish-American War, the Civil War, the War with England?
You need to clarify because the way you said it, as noted above, is completely in error.
I've traveled to some of the former Warsaw Pact Nations.... The USA IS Xanadu is comparison...
Since you asked, let's compare casualties. Now, since you want to count The American Revolutionary War and Spanish American War I assume you want count every war we've been in:
(civilian and military casualties will be included, per your implication)
US Revolutionary War: 14,000
War of 1812 2,200
Mexican War 13,000
Civil War 600,000
Spanish American 2,400
WWI 117,000
WW2 408,000
Korean 54,000
Vietnam 58,000
First Gulf War 290
Afghanistan 500 (plus 3,000 killed on 9-11)
Iraq War 4010
Total casualties: 1,276,400
population of USA today: 303,000,000
Russia lost more soldiers and civilians in the Siege of Leningrad alone than our nation has lost in our 200+ year history...
Russian population today: 141,000,000
China lost over 13 million soldiers and civilians from 1939-1945. Their population is currently 1.3 Billion
We can break down the numbers however you like. The point is, your entire premise is baseless, misleading, unfounded and inaccurate. No matter how you look at it.
Numbers vary, of course, but generally historians tend to agree the Communist Government of the Soviet union killed 50+ million of her own citizens. Cambodian Communists killed 2 million of their 7 million population. Chinese Communists are given credit for killin somewhere in the neighborhood of 35 million citizens.
In the last century, it is estimated Communist governments have murdered over 110 million of their own citizens.
In summation, Ya, Communism is a great way to live. I can't imagine anyone not wanting to live under one of those Dictators...
Originally Posted by Rudedog
...You chastise Russian and Chinese political philosophies, but they've been working for them alot longer than this country has been around
That is absurd. Communism didn't occur until 1921 when the Russian Civil war ended. The Chinese Communists took over in 1949.
Now, please explain to me how either of those countries' political philosophies have been around "alot longer than this country has been around"???
Originally Posted by Rudedog
Why should I have to clarify anything? You you make it sound like the US is this rosy Xanadu that has never had any pain or strife. Sure millions have died in China. But figure the percentages. There's what, three times as people living in China than the US? Death is relative. How many 'American's' died in the Spanish-American War, the Civil War, the War with England?
You need to clarify because the way you said it, as noted above, is completely in error.
I've traveled to some of the former Warsaw Pact Nations.... The USA IS Xanadu is comparison...
Since you asked, let's compare casualties. Now, since you want to count The American Revolutionary War and Spanish American War I assume you want count every war we've been in:
(civilian and military casualties will be included, per your implication)
US Revolutionary War: 14,000
War of 1812 2,200
Mexican War 13,000
Civil War 600,000
Spanish American 2,400
WWI 117,000
WW2 408,000
Korean 54,000
Vietnam 58,000
First Gulf War 290
Afghanistan 500 (plus 3,000 killed on 9-11)
Iraq War 4010
Total casualties: 1,276,400
population of USA today: 303,000,000
Russia lost more soldiers and civilians in the Siege of Leningrad alone than our nation has lost in our 200+ year history...
Russian population today: 141,000,000
China lost over 13 million soldiers and civilians from 1939-1945. Their population is currently 1.3 Billion
We can break down the numbers however you like. The point is, your entire premise is baseless, misleading, unfounded and inaccurate. No matter how you look at it.
Numbers vary, of course, but generally historians tend to agree the Communist Government of the Soviet union killed 50+ million of her own citizens. Cambodian Communists killed 2 million of their 7 million population. Chinese Communists are given credit for killin somewhere in the neighborhood of 35 million citizens.
In the last century, it is estimated Communist governments have murdered over 110 million of their own citizens.
In summation, Ya, Communism is a great way to live. I can't imagine anyone not wanting to live under one of those Dictators...
rudedog40
Member
You don't get it. Not veryone in the World wants to be like the US. They are very satisfied and content with their lifestyles and the way they live. You may not agree with the way they live, or the political systems they live under. But it's not our place to force our cultures or political beliefs on them. You sound like the bible thumpers who go around trying to convert atheists and agnostics. Your arrogant attitudes are the catalyst for the next World War. Keep pushing your principles on the wrong people, and they will retaliate.
So why does Al-Qaeda hate us? Why did they attack us inside our own borders? Well, I searched for Al-Qaeda and yes, Wikipedia came up with a very interesting history of this Islamic militant organization:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
I found the 'Operation Cyclone' excerpt very interesting. But the following could be the main reason why the US became a target for Bin Laden:
Following the Soviet Union's withdrawal from Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden returned to Saudi Arabia. The Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990 had put the country of Saudi Arabia and its ruling House of Saud at risk as Saudi's most valuable oil fields (Hama) were within easy striking distance of Iraqi forces in Kuwait,[70] and Saddam's call to pan-Arab/Islamism could potentially rally internal dissent. In the face of a seemingly massive Iraqi military presence, Saudi Arabia's own forces were well armed but far outnumbered. Bin Laden offered the services of his mujahedeen to King Fahd to protect Saudi Arabia from the Iraqi army. The Saudi monarch refused bin Laden's offer, opting instead to allow U.S. and allied forces to deploy on Saudi territory[71].
The deployment angered Bin Laden, as he believed the presence of foreign troops in the "land of the two mosques" (Mecca and Medina) profaned sacred soil. After speaking publicly against the Saudi government for harboring American troops, he was quickly forced into exile to Sudan and on April 9, 1994 his Saudi citizenship was revoked.[72] His family publicly disowned him. There is controversy over whether and to what extent he continued to garner support from members of his family and/or the Saudi government.[73]
Was this the beginning of Bin Laden's contempt for the US? Is this what set his mind off to plan the 9-11 attacks? Who knows. But what if we never got involved with Kuwait? Would Bin Laden have gone in another direction, never having ill will towards the US? I suppose he's the only one who knows the answer to that question...
So why does Al-Qaeda hate us? Why did they attack us inside our own borders? Well, I searched for Al-Qaeda and yes, Wikipedia came up with a very interesting history of this Islamic militant organization:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
I found the 'Operation Cyclone' excerpt very interesting. But the following could be the main reason why the US became a target for Bin Laden:
Following the Soviet Union's withdrawal from Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden returned to Saudi Arabia. The Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990 had put the country of Saudi Arabia and its ruling House of Saud at risk as Saudi's most valuable oil fields (Hama) were within easy striking distance of Iraqi forces in Kuwait,[70] and Saddam's call to pan-Arab/Islamism could potentially rally internal dissent. In the face of a seemingly massive Iraqi military presence, Saudi Arabia's own forces were well armed but far outnumbered. Bin Laden offered the services of his mujahedeen to King Fahd to protect Saudi Arabia from the Iraqi army. The Saudi monarch refused bin Laden's offer, opting instead to allow U.S. and allied forces to deploy on Saudi territory[71].
The deployment angered Bin Laden, as he believed the presence of foreign troops in the "land of the two mosques" (Mecca and Medina) profaned sacred soil. After speaking publicly against the Saudi government for harboring American troops, he was quickly forced into exile to Sudan and on April 9, 1994 his Saudi citizenship was revoked.[72] His family publicly disowned him. There is controversy over whether and to what extent he continued to garner support from members of his family and/or the Saudi government.[73]
Was this the beginning of Bin Laden's contempt for the US? Is this what set his mind off to plan the 9-11 attacks? Who knows. But what if we never got involved with Kuwait? Would Bin Laden have gone in another direction, never having ill will towards the US? I suppose he's the only one who knows the answer to that question...
crashbandicoot
Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2567453
You don't get it. Not veryone in the World wants to be like the US. They are very satisfied and content with their lifestyles and the way they live. You may not agree with the way they live, or the political systems they live under. But it's not our place to force our cultures or political beliefs on them. You sound like the bible thumpers who go around trying to convert atheists and agnostics. Your arrogant attitudes are the catalyst for the next World War. Keep pushing your principles on the wrong people, and they will retaliate.
So why does Al-Qaeda hate us? Why did they attack us inside our own borders? Well, I searched for Al-Qaeda and yes, Wikipedia came up with a very interesting history of this Islamic militant organization:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
I found the 'Operation Cyclone' excerpt very interesting. But the following could be the main reason why the US became a target for Bin Laden:
Following the Soviet Union's withdrawal from Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden returned to Saudi Arabia. The Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990 had put the country of Saudi Arabia and its ruling House of Saud at risk as Saudi's most valuable oil fields (Hama) were within easy striking distance of Iraqi forces in Kuwait,[70] and Saddam's call to pan-Arab/Islamism could potentially rally internal dissent. In the face of a seemingly massive Iraqi military presence, Saudi Arabia's own forces were well armed but far outnumbered. Bin Laden offered the services of his mujahedeen to King Fahd to protect Saudi Arabia from the Iraqi army. The Saudi monarch refused bin Laden's offer, opting instead to allow U.S. and allied forces to deploy on Saudi territory[71].
The deployment angered Bin Laden, as he believed the presence of foreign troops in the "land of the two mosques" (Mecca and Medina) profaned sacred soil. After speaking publicly against the Saudi government for harboring American troops, he was quickly forced into exile to Sudan and on April 9, 1994 his Saudi citizenship was revoked.[72] His family publicly disowned him. There is controversy over whether and to what extent he continued to garner support from members of his family and/or the Saudi government.[73]
Was this the beginning of Bin Laden's contempt for the US? Is this what set his mind off to plan the 9-11 attacks? Who knows. But what if we never got involved with Kuwait? Would Bin Laden have gone in another direction, never having ill will towards the US? I suppose he's the only one who knows the answer to that question...
So basicaly your saying that since the Saudi's choose to have american military over the mujahedeen . Thats a good reason to attack americans ? I might also point out that Bin laden sure didn't have an issue when the Americans (CIA) was backing the mujahedeen in their battle agaist the soviets . Bin laden is just a radical fanatic and It was only a matter of time before he got his undies bunched and went after the western world .
your talking about radical fundamental idealists . They are nothing more than ticking time bombs waiting to go off . They don't need a reason but they sure will use any excuse .
1journeyman
Active Member
Rudedog, you cannot possibly follow up a statement like
...Russian and Chinese political philosophies, but they've been working for them alot longer than this country has been around
with a quote like
You don't get it.
It's clear you are speaking about a topic you're not fully versed in.
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2567453
... Not veryone in the World wants to be like the US. They are very satisfied and content with their lifestyles and the way they live.
So you really believe the families of 110 million people killed in 80 years by their governments are content under Communism?
Originally Posted by Rudedog
You may not agree with the way they live, or the political systems they live under. But it's not our place to force our cultures or political beliefs on them.
The Iraqis wrote their own Constitution. We are not forcing our culture or political beliefs on them in any way... The Iraqi people voted, in masse. you've tried this argument before and failed. History hasn't changed.
Originally Posted by Rudedog
You sound like the bible thumpers who go around trying to convert atheists and agnostics.
I was wondering how long before you took a cheap shot at organized religion....
Originally Posted by Rudedog
Your arrogant attitudes are the catalyst for the next World War.
Well that would be a novel, considering your Isolationist attitude is responsible for the previous two World Wars...
Originally Posted by Rudedog
So why does Al-Qaeda hate us? Why did they attack us inside our own borders?...
So we should allow terrorists to dictate who our Allies are? It's surprising to you that given the choice of a mercenary army or the US Military the Saudi's opted for us? Further, you're saying the US should ignore it when one of our allies gets completely overrun by an invading army?
...Russian and Chinese political philosophies, but they've been working for them alot longer than this country has been around
with a quote like
You don't get it.
It's clear you are speaking about a topic you're not fully versed in.
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2567453
... Not veryone in the World wants to be like the US. They are very satisfied and content with their lifestyles and the way they live.
So you really believe the families of 110 million people killed in 80 years by their governments are content under Communism?
Originally Posted by Rudedog
You may not agree with the way they live, or the political systems they live under. But it's not our place to force our cultures or political beliefs on them.
The Iraqis wrote their own Constitution. We are not forcing our culture or political beliefs on them in any way... The Iraqi people voted, in masse. you've tried this argument before and failed. History hasn't changed.
Originally Posted by Rudedog
You sound like the bible thumpers who go around trying to convert atheists and agnostics.
I was wondering how long before you took a cheap shot at organized religion....
Originally Posted by Rudedog
Your arrogant attitudes are the catalyst for the next World War.
Well that would be a novel, considering your Isolationist attitude is responsible for the previous two World Wars...
Originally Posted by Rudedog
So why does Al-Qaeda hate us? Why did they attack us inside our own borders?...
So we should allow terrorists to dictate who our Allies are? It's surprising to you that given the choice of a mercenary army or the US Military the Saudi's opted for us? Further, you're saying the US should ignore it when one of our allies gets completely overrun by an invading army?