Dead Squamosa

rook

Member
jon,
Just curious, how long have you had those maxima under pc?? And, how far from you lights to your sand bed??
 

aileena

Member
I've read the information that all of you have provided and like I said before the evidence is that the maxima can live w/o adverse health effects under VHO if there is enough lighting and if phyto if fed daily...
The fact that the clam will not grow as fast under vho is something totally different than the clam's health being adversally effected...
Rook I bet you shop at the same LFS that I bought this clam from!!! Preuss??? What do you think about their opinions???
 

rook

Member
Some of the people at Preuss' are very good. For example Steve. Some I do not like and avoid, but just based on feelings from talking to them. I have gotten very bad advise from them before, but those people no longer work there.
Also, they have not yet succumb to the DSB theory. I have talked to Steve about it and believe they may experiment with it in the future.
Their livestock is generally very good, but the prices are a bit high, expecially on dry goods.
So the squamosa clam you bought that died was from Preuss'? I am a little surprised by that as they generally have good livestock. I have seen the maxima there. A bit small IMO, to be a first clam. It is better, generally to start with a larger 4-5" clam, as they are typically healthier.
I am surprised that they let you buy that maxima actually. Typically they really don't let people buy them unless they have MH, or else they really try to steer people away from them. That is good that they did not give you a problem getting credit for the squamosa.
Side question to all. Just for discussion.
I was under the impression that PC lights were generally, slightly more intense than VHO. Would any of you agree with this??
If this is the case, would PC be a step better than VHO in keeping clams, even though still not ideal like MH??
Just a question, not a suggestion for people to try this.
 

cmack

Member
From what I have read on this board, and from seeing my friends tank (PCs) and Mine (VHOs), the PCs are a more intense light, Almost a glaring harsh light. The VHOs are more of a softer less intense light. if you had 2 tanks with the same wattage rating VHO and PC, some corals will do better under the VHO, some better under PC. Depends on what your looking to do...Clams and ACROs much better under MH.
 

jonthefb

Active Member
rook, i have had the purple maxima in the tank for about 4 weeks now and the gold maxima in the tank for about 1 week... both are surviving but not thriving, until i move them into the 65 that is! teh squamosa however has been in the tank for about 9 months now and has grown about an inch during that time!
i too would agree that pc lights are more intense than VHO, but Mh, takes the cake!
good luck
jon
 

aileena

Member
ya Steve was really suprised that the squamosa died as well...when I got the maxima there was a bit of debate between some of the sw people there...I told em I was scared to buy another clam for fear that it would die...they said that the squamosa's death was very unusuall especially since the water quality was so good...they said the lighting was a little low, but wouldn't affect the health of the clam...came home from class today and the clam looked real good...not open too much...I take that to mean that the lighting is ok...i watched it for about a half hour....
 
aileena, you said you had that clam in your 60 gallon? As I recall, I read in one post that you had just finished cycling your 60 gallon less than a week ago, then a post the next day said it was a few months old, and now it's a year old? Maybe I'm just seeing things...
 

aileena

Member
Wow how old is this post??? I remember when I first posted this. I had my 29g. Since I posted this thread I have taken down the 29g and moved. I had that maxima clam in the 29g for roughly 3 months before I sold it. It did quite well contrary to popular belief. When I sold it to the LFS the guy asked me if it was the same clam I had bought a few months back. It had grown about an inch in 3 months. I used a lot of phytoplankton and the Kent A & B to buffer up the calcium for the shell to grow. the 3 24 vho bulbs on the icecap 430 worked just fine.
Now I have the 60g set up. Its been up since the first week in July. So it has been up and running for almost three months. I don't have any clams in there yet because its still a little too young of a tank. However I plan to add a squamosa or maxima clam within the next month or so. Now I have 4 46.5" vho bulbs on the icecap 660. The 60g is about the same height as the 29g so I really want to experiment with a clam or two. just need to wait while the tank ages a little more.
I think a lot of the success I had with the old maxima in the 29 was due to the phyto I fed. I would add 3 caps everyother day in a 29g. Thats a lot. I am sure that contributed to the health of it.
Now I have 50lbs of LR, 4 inch sandbed, remora pro w/ pre-filter, 2 maxijet 900's and 2 1200's, a 36watt UV light, with the icecap 660 with 4 46.5" bulbs. The tank is 4' long 12" wide and 24" high. Now I have a pair of percs and a Yellow Tang with numerous inverts. The only coral I have is a hammer right now. I will beef up the corals very soon since its about that 3 month time. I plan on lots of LPS and some montipora sps like digitata and various plates.
I have never done sps and I've been told montipora is the easiest so thats what I will start with since I have vho's.
wow i still cannot beleive this thread came back to life!!!
 

lopeyc

Member
-- is phyto necessary for clams? i don't feed my clam but he looks great. he's right at the top of the lr under the mh light. I'm not eager that he grow, just that he be healthy.
-- what is the "dsb theory"?
-- what, if any, are the drawbacks to mh lights, besides money?
thx.
 

bang guy

Moderator
Yes, Clams require Phytoplankton. For large clams the phyto produced in the tank is normally plenty to feed them. For small clams or small tanks a supplement is necessary.
 
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