Foxface Opinions?

crazyzeus1

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Not reef safe? Really? Everything I've read says it is, and the LFS said it is (never know if you can trust them though). What was your experience with losing polyps to your Foxface?
I'll check out the diet part...thanks SO much for that link!
 

unleashed

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Originally Posted by crazyzeus1
Not reef safe? Really? Everything I've read says it is, and the LFS said it is (never know if you can trust them though). What was your experience with losing polyps to your Foxface?
I'll check out the diet part...thanks SO much for that link!
I kept my majestic in My reef for a while she tried to nip at things but with no lower jaw she realy couldnt do any damage.as for my bicolored I keep her in my agressive tank.only coraline algae grows on my rocks I dont even need a clean up crew in that tank in fact I havent had cleanup crew in over a yr.I wouldnt attempt it they munch constantly
 

crazyzeus1

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Ugh....our Foxface is probably going back to the store. His cloudy eyes are not getting any better....bummer....
Now the question is...do I get another? Anyone else have one in a reef tank? Any problems?
 

promisetbg

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We have one in the shop...he has been in a display tank{with expensive corals} for three years with no problems.
 

bang guy

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Originally Posted by crazyzeus1
Ugh....our Foxface is probably going back to the store. His cloudy eyes are not getting any better....bummer....
They all have cloudy eyes when the light is shining above them.
Try finding it at night with a flashlight and look at the eyes when the light is not coming from above them.
 

crazyzeus1

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Thanks for the "light shining above" question. I'll check with the flashlight.
The LFS service guy came & tried to get him out, but he just hid in the rocks. I didn't want to stress him any more, so I told him to just go ahead & stop...we'll give it a few days & see.
With ich...do they quit eating? Because this guy is a HOG! He won't touch the algae sheet though. I have put it in a few diff. locations in the tank to see if he'd take it...not interested. Likes meats & anything that floats by...CycloPeeze flakes included...so what type of herbivore flakes are good? I have frozen Formula Two, but it's gelatanous & sinks to the bottom & my Emerald crabs drag it off.
 

unleashed

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I at times use the formula 2 also I thaw it first in warm water (preferably water from the tank)then before adding it I mix in some mysis shrimp and break the cubes up in my fingers this makes it easeir for the fish to eat as far as flakes go I use omega one veggie flakes .omega one also makes a kelp flake.if hes eating thats a very good sign mine will eat 2- 3 times per day. 3 if im home all day long are you noticing spots on him as a sign of ich?or just anticipating the outbreak?also if hes eating that well and you fear ich attack purchase the thera+A my spectrum non medicated anti paresitic formula small pellets are the best for your reef fish.I feed these daily
 

crazyzeus1

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I noticed VERY small white dots/bumps on his black spot on his back...but today they're gone. Our cleaner shrimp keeps cleaning him vigorously, and the lymphocystis on his tail is about 1/2 the size it was yesterday... I was never totally sure of ich...just questioning it.
I'll try warming up the tank water before I put the Formula Two frozen cube in it & break it up with my fingers. Didn't think of that

I did find him at night & shine the flashlight at his eye...just briefly because he didn't seem to appreciate that :) It did look much clearer. Today, the cloudy of his eye is more like a band across the middle...not covering his whole eye, and it's not as milky as it was yesterday (I don't think).
 

unleashed

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you dont have to warm the water if your geting from the tank just take a small cup and remove a little water to thaw them in I use the tank water because I know its safe and has no chemicals such as chlorine that I dont want to feed to my fish.sounds like he has a good chance of making it. best of luck
 

crazyzeus1

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:) Thanks! That's how I defrost my frozen cubes is with the tank water...I thought you meant that you warmed up the water extra! Guess I'm a goober...
We were gone for a few hours & came home to find Foxface doing the neatest thing (I guess it's neat...not harmful?) One of our larger hermit crabs was in the sand under a rock, & the Foxface kept backing up to it with it's tail & letting the hermit pick off it's lymphocist! At first I thought the hermit was attacking the Foxface, but the Foxface kept backing up to the hermit again & again & they lymphocyst is about 1/3 the size it was Monday. Neat!!! He was also almost completely yellow, but when he came out to feed, his brown back returned, so I'm guessing he's still a bit stressed with the new tank. I'm going to get the algae flake food today at the LFS...he's digging the Marine Cuisine & Cyclopeeze wafers, & will take a Formula Two small pellet here or there, but I know none of that is all he should be eating! I wrote down your suggestions from this thread & another thread about a Blue Powder Tang (I think), and will see if I can find what you use.
I don't know if cleaner shrip eat Ich, and maybe it's not ich to begin with..but the white spots I was seeing are gone, and the cleaner has been on the Foxface a few times that I've seen...I'm sure I've missed some rendevous! :) Still has the hazy eyes...but it's much much better than yesterday & is pretty much clear if I shine a flashlight at them...
Here's hoping!
 

unleashed

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I dug up this web site for you to help with feeding all your fish and foods.what I basicly did was gave list of what I use this one will help you decide what you need for your tanks
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crazyzeus1

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Hmmmm...our Foxface is not eating very well. We have had him since Monday & today is Friday. He ate very well Monday & Tuesday, less on Wednesday, & hardly anything Thursday & today. I am offering a wide variety:
Algae Sheet (green--never seen Foxface touch it though)
Formula Two small pellets (don't think I've seen him eat this)
Formula Two flakes (took a few today)
Formula Two frozen (gelatanous & sinks to the bottom...not sure if he picks this or not)
Cycolpeeze (eats a bit)
Frozen Mysis (no)
Frozen Brine Shrimp Plus (ate the first two days but hasn't eaten since)
Frozen Marine Cuisine (no)
Brine Shrimp Plus flakes (ate a bit)
Live brine shrimp...tried today...he would eat it but spit it back out immediately
Our LFS didn't have the garlic juice in the tube, and they didn't have any of the veggie flakes or the kelp flakes. The Formula Two flakes were the best I could find.
If he's swimming OK, got good color (but he's still a bit brown at the top & obviously stressed some still), & was picking food out of the sand at the bottom...you think he's OK? I think he's looking "skinnier" but my hubby says I"m nuts
 

wax32

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Maybe he is full from all the food you are feeding him.
Give him some time to adjust and hopefully he will be ok.
 

crazyzeus1

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:) Of all those things, I'm not feeding great quantities of that stuff...just a bit here or there to see if he'll eat any of it :)
We do have 2 Green Chromis in the tank with him that eat the food too...
Please don't think I'm overfeeding :) Just trying to offer lots of choices to see what he'll eat. Maybe he is full...
 

unleashed

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its hard to define in the pic you have of him but you think he looks skinnier?the black portion of his chest can you see his

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plate?if you answer yes than he is on the skinny side.this should be plump and full looking.just out of curioustiy do you happen to have large sailfin type tangs?.aslo do you keep macro algae in a sump or refuge.if so you could try placing some fresh macro algae in the main tank so he can eat at leasure.reason I ask about a sailfinned tang or simular shaped tang.it may be being harrased by a fish to the point he cannot eat.my sailfin tang did this to my majestic that I have for 4 yrs after transfering him into the tangs tank she was bullied to the point of starvation.I have to stress my majestic had no lower jaw and could not graze on algae.
 

crazyzeus1

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The only other fish we have in the tank is 1 Dragonet & 2 Green Chromis, and I've never seen any of the fish get aggressive with the Foxface.
He did eat the Marine Cuisine I put in this morning. I also got some frozen Emerald Entree today at the store, so we'll see if he'll eat that tomorrow.
He may not be skinny. The picture on this thread was another poster's foxface, not mine. But I think mine looks skinnier than the one pictured on this thread. I don't think I see any "bones" though...would you know FOR SURE if you saw bones? Would it be something totally obvoius to me?
 

unleashed

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this was my majestic foxface I placed arrows pointing to areas described in this post.
lower arrow notes :notice the incaved look and

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bone very noticable this should not be easily seen.
the upper arrow is to show the difference in foxfaces and why this one is so thin notice his lower jaw is completely missing.this fish live an entire yr like this we were very lucky for her to have lived that long.she was this thin from lack of grazing..
also I suggest when feeding thaw these foods completly in water then mix and pour into tank
 
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