Gamecocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/3222972
"coaching" and "recruiting" are two completely different things. sorry you don't understand that.
btw, Sidney Rice was a 2 star recruit that really wasn't recruited by anyone. how'd that work out? how about Jasper Brinkley, a JUCO LB, now the starting MLB for Minnesota.
Great coaches are able to recruit great players, sorry you can't comprehend that.

 

[kjr_trig]

I think Spurrier is a far better recruiter than he is a coach, he had a pretty sub-par year (in spite of what Pontius says) this year...The guy is an idiot as a coach....Again, Colin Cowherd "Spurrier was the worst head coach in the history of the NFL"...The guy had Marvin Lewis as his D-Coordinator and they were still aweful.
Pontius, FYI the only reason Brinkley started was their starter E.J. Henderson got hurt, if you watched any of their games, you would have heard how much teams were picking on Brinkley and exploiting him....Sidney Rice had a stellar year.

 

[bulldog123]

Pontius
I would take everything these two say about college football with a grain of salt. Both picked the duck to destroy The Ohio State Buckeyes.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by Bulldog123
http:///forum/post/3223055
Pontius
I would take everything these two say about college football with a grain of salt. Both picked the duck to destroy The Ohio State Buckeyes.

You'd better be beggin my pardon there skippy, I had Ohio State over Oregon in the Bowl Pickem.

 

[pontius]

Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/3223038
I think Spurrier is a far better recruiter than he is a coach, he had a pretty sub-par year (in spite of what Pontius says) this year...The guy is an idiot as a coach....Again, Colin Cowherd "Spurrier was the worst head coach in the history of the NFL"...The guy had Marvin Lewis as his D-Coordinator and they were still aweful.

You seriously know absolutely nothing of which you speak. Spurrier's coaching record is 177-68. 7 conference titles, 1 national championship, played for 2. and he has NEVER been known as a great recruiter, even at Florida. which again, shows that you don't know what you're talking about. he is known for getting overlooked players and turning them into stars, not getting highly ranked recruiting classes.
anyone who takes Colin Cowherd seriously is a moron. Cowherd is nothing but a Pac 10 homer. off the top of my head, I could name 20 coaches from the past 2-3 years that were worse in the NFL than Spurrier.
how you even have the nerve to show back up on this thread after that whole Rivals link blew up in your face is a mystery to me.

 

[pontius]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3223013
Great coaches are able to recruit great players, sorry you can't comprehend that.
If that's the case, then why do all schools have "recruiting coordinators". Nick Saban, Bob Stoops, Mack Brown ALL have recruiting coordinators. a great recruiter recruits, a great coach coaches.

 

[pontius]

Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/3223038
Pontius, FYI the only reason Brinkley started was their starter E.J. Henderson got hurt, if you watched any of their games, you would have heard how much teams were picking on Brinkley and exploiting him....Sidney Rice had a stellar year.
I'm well aware that Brinkley got picked on. the point that you obviously missed is that Brinkley is a ROOKIE. how many ROOKIES have you ever seen start at MLB??? MLB is THE position on defense that you would NOT expect to see a rookie get a start. but obviously Brinkley was good enough to do it.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/3223202
If that's the case, then why do all schools have "recruiting coordinators". Nick Saban, Bob Stoops, Mack Brown ALL have recruiting coordinators. a great recruiter recruits, a great coach coaches.
LOL, You dont think the coaches are hands on when it comes to recruiting? They can't do it all themselves so assistant coaches help as well. Bottom line is the player wants to go where he has the best chance for success and that is more dependent on the coach than anything.

 

[pontius]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3223207
Bottom line is the player wants to go where he has the best chance for success and that is more dependent on the coach than anything.
right, dependent on the coach. and Spurrier has proven that he is a good coach.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/3223210
right, dependent on the coach. and Spurrier has proven that he is a good coach.
And so the circle is complete and we are back to my original point, why in the hell is it that 6 other teams in the SEC alone have so much more success at recruiting? You would think players would be flocking to the ol ball coach. What is Carolina doing wrong?

 

[pontius]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3223226
And so the circle is complete and we are back to my original point, why in the hell is it that 6 other teams in the SEC alone have so much more success at recruiting? You would think players would be flocking to the ol ball coach. What is Carolina doing wrong?
He never got top recruiting classes when he was at Florida either. But a school like South Carolina consistently getting top 25 classes is pretty good.

 

[louti]

Just thought I'd point out that Florida has the #1 class! A recruiting class that is better on paper than the '06 class. That class included Tim Tebow, Percy Harvin, and Brandon Spikes. If this class lives up to potential, its even greater to be a gator!

 

[kjr_trig]

Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/3223201
You seriously know absolutely nothing of which you speak. Spurrier's coaching record is 177-68. 7 conference titles, 1 national championship, played for 2. and he has NEVER been known as a great recruiter, even at Florida. which again, shows that you don't know what you're talking about. he is known for getting overlooked players and turning them into stars, not getting highly ranked recruiting classes.
anyone who takes Colin Cowherd seriously is a moron. Cowherd is nothing but a Pac 10 homer. off the top of my head, I could name 20 coaches from the past 2-3 years that were worse in the NFL than Spurrier.
how you even have the nerve to show back up on this thread after that whole Rivals link blew up in your face is a mystery to me.

OK genius. lets look at the site you choose...Rivals.com
Last year S. Carolin had the 12th ranked recruiting class
2008, 22nd ranked class
2007, 6th ranked recruiting class
2006, 22nd ranked recruiting class
4 straight years your beloved Gamecocks have had one of the top 25 recruiting classes in the country.....Now which of those years did your outstanding football team finish the season in the top 25? I can help you with that answer if you need.......
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I.E. your "ol ball coach" recruits better than he coaches.

 

[kjr_trig]

Oh, and don't us the "we're in the SEC where it's tough to win" excuse....The "ol ball coach" is 1-3 in Bowl Games with the only win being against Houstan from mighty Conference USA, and this year you got thumped by a basketball school.

 

[bulldog123]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3223117
You'd better be beggin my pardon there skippy, I had Ohio State over Oregon in the Bowl Pickem.

I really dont remember who had who, I just like saying The Ohio State Buckeyes beat the ducks. I just dont want anyone to forget. Especially that golfer

 

[kjr_trig]

Originally Posted by Bulldog123
http:///forum/post/3223391
I really dont remember who had who, I just like saying The Ohio State Buckeyes beat the ducks. I just dont want anyone to forget. Especially that golfer

I need no reminder of that somewhat painful episode.....THE Ohio St. should be quite good next year. As long as they don't play the Trojans out of conference they should be ok

 

[bulldog123]

I will do my best to pry it in every thread I can find.

 

[reefraff]

Gad, speaking of recruiting USC, the other USC just got a verbal commitment from a 6 foot tall Quarterback. I don't think height will be an issue, THE KID IS ONLY 13

 

[kjr_trig]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3223523
Gad, speaking of recruiting USC, the other USC just got a verbal commitment from a 6 foot tall Quarterback. I don't think height will be an issue, THE KID IS ONLY 13

Wow, just saw the story....high school class of 2015. David Sills is the kids name.

 

[browniebuck]

Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/3223329

OK genius. lets look at the site you choose...Rivals.com
Last year S. Carolin had the 12th ranked recruiting class
2008, 22nd ranked class
2007, 6th ranked recruiting class
2006, 22nd ranked recruiting class
4 straight years your beloved Gamecocks have had one of the top 25 recruiting classes in the country.....Now which of those years did your outstanding football team finish the season in the top 25? I can help you with that answer if you need.......
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I am beginning to think that ranking the recruiting classes is one of the stupidest things done in college sports. How many years did Charlie Weiss have one of the top 10 classes and...exactly what did he do with those classes???
If you want to see a real recruiter that makes the most of what they have....go to a little town called Alliance, Ohio and visit Coach Larry Kehres at D-III Mount Union College (soon to be the University of Mount Union...but will always be MUC to me). This guy picks up the scraps that aren't "good enough", aren't "big enough", aren't "fast enough", etc... to play D-I and turns them into champions year after year. You can watch one of them play in some game called the Super Bowl on Sunday...and no, he isn't the long snapper or the 4th string DE...he is one of the starting WR's for Peyton Manning and the Colts...Pierre Garcon.
You can recruit whatever you want...but if you can't coach them up and keep them eligible (see Lane Kiffin), they mean nothing. USC has been in the top 10 for how many years and have how many National Championships to show for it in the past 10-12 years?