Gas Prices

[mrdc]

So are gas prices going to skyrocket soon? I saw that oil jumped 9% and could go even higher real fast because of the Libya mess. Plus I still don't see the whole Egypt thing as being over with even though they aren't the headline news story right now. An oil analyst this morning stated that he could easily see gas prices jumping by $1.50 real soon. If it does, I hope it will spark the start of some real innovations to get us off oil or at least not be so dang dependent.
What are your thoughts?

 

[flower]

I agree something has to give...It's always crazy in those countries, I think we are nuts for getting involved and depending on them..well. it's like staying with an abusive husband, they do us dirty and we keep coming back for more.. It's all about money.

 

[ironeagle2006]

Yet we are sitting on 2 Trillion Barrels of Esay to Recover Oil in ND MT and other areas. But why can we not get it Obama and the EPA will not let any new Drilling Permits be issued for risk of a spill. Even though a federal Judge has told him that he is in Contmpt of the Court for not lifting his ban on Drilling in the Gulf his current Regulations are a Ban and must be Lifted. We could be Energy free of all of Opec yet we can not be because of Tree huggers.

 

[flower]

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Originally Posted by ironeagle2006 http:///forum/thread/384064/gas-prices#post_3363305
Yet we are sitting on 2 Trillion Barrels of Esay to Recover Oil in ND MT and other areas. But why can we not get it Obama and the EPA will not let any new Drilling Permits be issued for risk of a spill. Even though a federal Judge has told him that he is in Contmpt of the Court for not lifting his ban on Drilling in the Gulf his current Regulations are a Ban and must be Lifted. We could be Energy free of all of Opec yet we can not be because of Tree huggers.
Without us tree huggers you folks would strip the planet. We have oil in other places besides the Gulf.

 

[mrdc]

This has always made me angry. From something I heard awhile back, it made it sound like we make it hard for US companies to drill in the gulf yet we freely license foreign companies to drill and then sell the oil to us. Not sure if I got that completely right but I think I am in the ballpark.
I'm already paying $400 a month in gas so another spike in prices will really hurt. I guess I can go without eating. I wonder how long it would take me to get to work by horse ... hmmm....
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Originally Posted by ironeagle2006 http:///forum/thread/384064/gas-prices#post_3363305
Even though a federal Judge has told him that he is in Contmpt of the Court for not lifting his ban on drilling in the Gulf his current Regulations are a Ban and must be Lifted.

 

[mrdc]

Those Muslims love the shoe attack.

 

[ironeagle2006]

Flower we spend 500 Billion Importing oil from other Countries a Year. Most of that yeah does come from Canada however some does come from the Middle East and also from Vensulula. Now if we drilled our Own oil we would not need to have bases all over the Wrld and could Cut back on Military Spending maybe by 33% instead of 1.2 Trillion a Year out the door for the Military only 800 Billion close a few bases in Europe and other places and save a few hundred Billion in Trade deficets also. Then maybe Break the hold OPEC has on Oil prices along with the Speculators so when a Dictator gets thrown out of power oil does not jump 50bucks a barrel since we do not care about it we have our OWN here. Also let a few new Refinearys get built to improve the Gas supply and build them so that they pollute less it can be done. Also instead of using a food crop like Corn for Ethanol why not figure out how to use IDK say grass or stalks from corn for it. Free feedstocks and would allow corn to be used to feed people instead of wasted for fuerl production. Biodiesel can be made from Alage if they can find the right one to make it from find it get it going and make it from that instead of soybean oil at least right now they are making it from recycled oils.
Flower at least your job has had a COLA raise the past couple years. I am still getting the same amount in SSDI that I have been for the last 2 years. Yet my Energy food and other costs have gone thru the roof I am getting by with less and it is to the point I might be forced to get out of the hobby.

 

[flower]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ironeagle2006 http:///forum/thread/384064/gas-prices#post_3363320
Flower we spend 500 Billion Importing oil from other Countries a Year. Most of that yeah does come from Canada however some does come from the Middle East and also from Vensulula. Now if we drilled our Own oil we would not need to have bases all over the Wrld and could Cut back on Military Spending maybe by 33% instead of 1.2 Trillion a Year out the door for the Military only 800 Billion close a few bases in Europe and other places and save a few hundred Billion in Trade deficets also. Then maybe Break the hold OPEC has on Oil prices along with the Speculators so when a Dictator gets thrown out of power oil does not jump 50bucks a barrel since we do not care about it we have our OWN here. Also let a few new Refinearys get built to improve the Gas supply and build them so that they pollute less it can be done. Also instead of using a food crop like Corn for Ethanol why not figure out how to use IDK say grass or stalks from corn for it. Free feedstocks and would allow corn to be used to feed people instead of wasted for fuerl production. Biodiesel can be made from Alage if they can find the right one to make it from find it get it going and make it from that instead of soybean oil at least right now they are making it from recycled oils.
Flower at least your job has had a COLA raise the past couple years. I am still getting the same amount in SSDI that I have been for the last 2 years. Yet my Energy food and other costs have gone thru the roof I am getting by with less and it is to the point I might be forced to get out of the hobby.
Hey...I'm on your side. However I know we can get our oil elsewhere besides the Gulf....I personally think all countries should be banned from drilling in the sea after the last incident. A spill from a transport rig is bad enough but an unstoppable hemorrhage is another thing.
To be honest I think we have the technology to wean ourselves off of oil and go with another power source.
I pay a budget on my gas, $51.00 a month all year. Instead of getting out of the hobby maybe you could somehow insulate your home or move. Your bill is outrageous…I couldn’t afford that kind of bill. A friend of mine got a wood burning stove to offset his costs. My son uses a fireplace for extra winter heat. With that kind of bill you need to look for alternative heating, not go hungry or not have your tank. My goodness surely in this country when we work so hard we should have some joy in our lives and not just have basic heat and food.

 

[monsinour]

Here I thought someone was asking what gas prices were across the states. Since I am driving back from atlanta on friday I could have given prices in several states.
Our dependancy on forign oil is rediculous. If there is more oil in Montana or North Dakota, drill it. Not sure about Alaska or Texas not having any new spots to drill. At some point, the demand for oil will win out and the tree huggers will just get mad that we are drilling everywhere.
Personally I think we should do all we can to eliminate the dependancy on forign oil.

 

[stdreb27]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdc http:///forum/thread/384064/gas-prices#post_3363297
So are gas prices going to skyrocket soon? I saw that oil jumped 9% and could go even higher real fast because of the Libya mess. Plus I still don't see the whole Egypt thing as being over with even though they aren't the headline news story right now. An oil analyst this morning stated that he could easily see gas prices jumping by $1.50 real soon. If it does, I hope it will spark the start of some real innovations to get us off oil or at least not be so dang dependent.
What are your thoughts?
My thoughts are, that is what you get when government artifically limits supply. Every time you pay more than say 1.50 for gas, you're paying for the crazy tree huggers nutty insane obstructionist politics. And well, this is what we get for voting for Obama.
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/384064/gas-prices#post_3363324
Hey...I'm on your side. However I know we can get our oil elsewhere besides the Gulf....I personally think all countries should be banned from drilling in the sea after the last incident. A spill from a transport rig is bad enough but an unstoppable hemorrhage is another thing.
To be honest I think we have the technology to wean ourselves off of oil and go with another power source.
lol. we aren't on the same side, And hey what is this magical technology? Because I don't see it. Statements like this show a HUGE misperception of reality as a whole. If there really is a viable alternative to oil. (by viable it means cheaper than oil, works better and more efficient) I just don't see it... Keep in mind, it is easier to drive 5 miles below the surface of the earth than ANYTHING they've come up with...

 

[slice]

"Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe,"
-Steven Chu, Obama Administration Energy Secretary
That quote is our national energy policy.
Remember the Oil Embargo of '79?
We were told that developing our own resources would not help since it would take 5+ years to get oil from the ground to the pump.
Katrina?
We were told that developing our own resources would not help since it would take 5+ years to get oil from the ground to the pump.
Recession of '08?
We were told that developing our own resources would not help since it would take 5+ years to get oil from the ground to the pump.
Middle unrest of 2011
We are being told that developing our own resources would not help since it would take 5+ years to get oil from the ground to the pump.
And then there is Secretary Chu.
We are told that we need to develop new energy sources, yet we continue to dump the money that could go towards that development to those who hate us.
If we drilled our own oil, keep that revenue INSIDE our own country, we would have financial resources to fund development of alternative energy resources.
If we drilled our own oil, we could keep our eyes on the environmental considerations instead of abdicating that responsibility to those who don't give a rat's a$$ about the environment. The green movement is short sighted beyond any measure of common sense.
The gulf oil spill was in part because of government edicts that restrict drilling to the most dangerous portion of the gulf, DEEP water.
This situation is insane, perpetuated by manipulative idiots.
And we are idiots for allowing it.
DRILL HERE
DRILL NOW
PAY LESS

 

[meowzer]

OH PLEASE....if someone sneezes the wrong way prices go up......this is all just to screw the people that plan to travel for the summer months
That's how I feel about it

 

[smartorl]

I remember all my drivers calling a meeting to inform "me" that if the price of diesel hit $1.25, they were parking their trucks because there would be no profit. Haha, we could kill for $1.25 now.
Fuel surcharges, although in place, do little to offset our rising costs.

 

[mrdc]

The lowest prices around here (Columbus GA) is about $3.01. What is it in your area?

 

[slice]

$3.15-$3.24

 

[ironeagle2006]

I am paying 3.23 a gallon for Regular Unleaded. I am on Budget bills for my Electric and gas however when the cost of food has jumped Gasoline is up Bigtime in the last 2 years. Those are the costs that will drive me out of Saltwater keeping not my engery costs for lighting my house or keeping it warm my Gas bill actually Dropped 30 bucks a month so that was not bad.

 

[monsinour]

with the redonkulous taxes here in NY, gas for the regular is between $3.31 and $3.39 a gallon. Cross the border to Mass and I think its $3.09 or something.

 

[mrdc]

I should get on budget billing for my house which is all electric. I know last summer was hotter than usual here especially for the number of straight days the heat got up to triple digits. Anyway, my electric bill was getting over $600 which is insane for me. I thought about getting some more insulation for the attic to see if that helps and to see what a could put around the windows to block hot air from coming in and cold air from getting out.

 

[flower]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdc http:///forum/thread/384064/gas-prices#post_3363367
I should get on budget billing for my house which is all electric. I know last summer was hotter than usual here especially for the number of straight days the heat got up to triple digits. Anyway, my electric bill was getting over $600 which is insane for me. I thought about getting some more insulation for the attic to see if that helps and to see what a could put around the windows to block hot air from coming in and cold air from getting out.
I have been seeing these windmill kind of gadgets on roofs with solar panels, now mind you the government still taxes them for using the sunsine but it's cheaper than $600.00 a month for sure. OMG I was crying over $224.00 last smmer.
stdreb27, There are other power sources besides oil, you just want the quick fix. We need to quit relying on the crazies in the Middle East for anything. I will gladly pay $4.00 a gallon for gas (we are going there anyway)…as long as it is American gas… in no time at all foreign oil will be cheap as cheap can be, and as long as they keep the prices way down…we will deal with them…Just to be nice. Our problem is we are paying top dollar to them an they are calling the shots.

 

[brandonsivek]

$2.87-$3.09 here in Baytown, TX. Just East of Houston.