Gas saving device.

bang guy

Moderator
Originally Posted by digitydash
http:///forum/post/2600450
Here is my reply I got from him.
Here's how we did it. We filled up our tank and let the pump shut off automatically. We then put it on the dyno with a starting milage on the odometer of 125,691. We ran it 20 minutes at 55mph and put 21 miles on. We then topped the tank off, and put 2.216 gallons in our tank. Divde 21 by 2.216 and you get 9.4.
We then repeated the test a month later. We filled up, and started the dyno at 126,566. We ran the machine for 20 minutes at 55mph. We put twenty miles on. We then filled up again, and put .862 gallons in our tank. Divide 20 by .862 and you get 23.2mpg.
Now take the difference between the amount of gas that we put into each tank. 2.216 minus .862 equals 1.3.
Take the 1.3 and divide it 2.216, which was the original amount of gas we put into the tank. That equals 61-percent.
If you think this math doesn't work, I'd more than happy to hear back from you.
"2.216 minus .862 equals 1.3.
Take the 1.3 and divide it 2.216,"
This isn't the correct formula. The correct way to determine % increase is (2.216/.862) * 100.
The test is flawed because they didn't measure how much fuel was used. They used the automatic stop on the fuel pump which is only accurate to a GALLON or so. If they repeated each of the tests 100 times they might have numbers with statistical significance.
 

rylan1

Active Member
Originally Posted by digitydash
http:///forum/post/2600416
Funny thing Marijuana makes 20x the amount of ethenal then corn does.
You've now given people another excuse to grow pot.. 1st medical... now for gas... brilliant.
 

digitydash

Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2600813
You've now given people another excuse to grow pot.. 1st medical... now for gas... brilliant.
Things your goverment don't want you to know but it does.All because they don't want to legalize it and they would have to to implement it.
 

bionicarm

Active Member
Sounds like diggitydash is convinced it works. If so, you have an actual test subject to validate whether their claims are true or not. So diggity, drop the $1400 or whatever it costs on this miracle device and take one for the team!! If it does everything they claim it will, I'll follow right behind you and buy one.
 

digitydash

Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2601147
Sounds like diggitydash is convinced it works. If so, you have an actual test subject to validate whether their claims are true or not. So diggity, drop the $1400 or whatever it costs on this miracle device and take one for the team!! If it does everything they claim it will, I'll follow right behind you and buy one.
Where you that scared to post on your original screen name that you had to make a new one.It $1200 any way not $1400
 

triga22

Active Member
How come we couldnt use solar? If we were to take up the desert in nevada and put up solar panels we could run the whole country on just those. So we do have a source of energy were just not taking advantage.
 

aquaknight

Active Member
Solar energy is very inefficent. I doubt the energy produced from covering the entire state of Nevada in panel would be enough to power a smaller state, like Georgia.
 

digitydash

Active Member
The problem isn't geting the power from the sun.Its where to store it that would be the problem.That would take alot of batterys
 

triga22

Active Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2601170
Solar energy is very inefficent. I doubt the energy produced from covering the entire state of Nevada in panel would be enough to power a smaller state, like Georgia.
No It could power every major city in the US. I have the science magazine next to me.. let me find an article.
 

nordy

Active Member
A big issue with large scale solar arrays powering the grid is, what do you do during night time/off peak periods? the solar energy has to be stored somehow. One method is to use electricity to pump water into a resevoir and then let it generate hydro at night. This works, but demands a huge amount of "excess" water and also removes significant amounts of peak/high demand period electricity to pump that water uphill. Then there are pumping losses and general inefficiencies involved with any large scale power mode transfers. It's complicated, but essential, to tap solar in a large way to power the grid but it isn't free. Heck, it isn't even cheap!
 

bang guy

Moderator
Originally Posted by Nordy
http:///forum/post/2601302
A big issue with large scale solar arrays powering the grid is, what do you do during night time/off peak periods? the solar energy has to be stored somehow. One method is to use electricity to pump water into a resevoir and then let it generate hydro at night. This works, but demands a huge amount of "excess" water and also removes significant amounts of peak/high demand period electricity to pump that water uphill. Then there are pumping losses and general inefficiencies involved with any large scale power mode transfers. It's complicated, but essential, to tap solar in a large way to power the grid but it isn't free. Heck, it isn't even cheap!
Use the excess electricity made during the day to split water into Oxygen and Hydrogen. Use the Hydrogen at night in a fuel cell to generate electricity.
 

reefraff

Active Member
It's possible that thing is acting like an over engineered water injection unit. Under the right conditions water injection can give you some decent gains inperformance and mileage. Thing is you can get a water injection system a whole lot cheaper than 1200 bux.
 

nordy

Active Member
Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2601418
Use the excess electricity made during the day to split water into Oxygen and Hydrogen. Use the Hydrogen at night in a fuel cell to generate electricity.

Ya, makes sense, and more efficient than pumping water up a hill!
 

nordy

Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2601435
It's possible that thing is acting like an over engineered water injection unit. Under the right conditions water injection can give you some decent gains inperformance and mileage. Thing is you can get a water injection system a whole lot cheaper than 1200 bux.

I had a water/methanol injection unit on my supercharged Focus and it basically cooled the charge and kept the engine from blowing up under boost. Didn't give any mileage gains, but did make the car perform better. Cost about $300 as I recall.
 

greg9871

Member
another thing about the pot is that our gov't gives it to less wealthy countries(we would be a good place to start this at) so that they can make a profit out of it and help them with their money situation(FYI) , like stated before it has a much better ethanol rate than corn, the gov't just doesnt want to accept that our country could acctualy use it and not be disgraced from it.
 

fats71

Active Member
I know it was the third record high on barrles today 127 go go exxon stock :) I should have sold it all today but I will wait a year or 10 more...
 

fenrir

Member
Originally Posted by Nordy
http:///forum/post/2601462
I had a water/methanol injection unit on my supercharged Focus and it basically cooled the charge and kept the engine from blowing up under boost. Didn't give any mileage gains, but did make the car perform better. Cost about $300 as I recall.
lol you wouldn't have to be in the Focus Fanatics group would you?
 
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