Gay Marriage, Abortion and other moral issue?

reefreak29

Active Member
jennythebugg said:
Originally Posted by reefreak29
how about some personal bs on it . i was raised by a preacher and a secretary. both republican, both strict but loving parents when i was a small kid and a love scene would come on a movie or soap opera it wasnt just the men i admired ,and this is as young as 6 years old thats as far back as i can remember did i knowingly make a choice at 6 years old about being the way i am?, no it just happened so how can you say that from the age of 6-13 (when i found out what gay really was) that i was knowingly making a choice?

its not the temptation of sexualy wanting to be with the same --- thats wrong its acting on that.
 

jovial

Member
Originally Posted by Pontius
they are not allowed to marry because of discrimination, period. whether or not you see it as a sin, it's THEIR sin not YOUR sin. like the guy said earlier in the thread, he owns businesses, contributes to society and pays probably more taxes than anyone on this board. why should he not benefit from the breaks that married people get? he obviously has someone that he loves, so how does that affect you?
without bringing religion into the argument, state all these effects that gay marriage would have on society?
To not open the doors for anyone to marry anyone else or any number of people would also be discrimination.
 

aztec reef

Active Member
why can't people see that you only agree on what you believe in and how you were brought up. We all know the world has been changing through out history. that's Not going to stop..back in the 80's there was no rap music on MTV now there's nothing but rap or some other shows that have nothing to do with music..why? who's in charge of the media? and telecasts.?
It's all about what the mayority of the civilized population believe in righ?
So yes we all know that homosexuallity will keep growing and keep being accepted, the World keeps changing..
Education: doesn't teach you the benefits of being gay.
How can you Not believe in something that makes so much sense like the word of God..I'm not saying to take it Literally but just read it and come out with your own conclusions.. enuf said about religion, but it makes sense so i use it as a Guideline..
If you DON"T believe in God then you think all of our world was an Accident?
what backs this theory up? science?
 

maxalmon

Active Member
"Where have our morals and values gone?"
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I simply can't understand how anyone could say that because I'm gay and want the same legal rights as everyone else that I have "NO MORALS AND VALUES"
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I feel so sorry for people who think that because we are gay that we have some kinda built in moral flaws.
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People love to hide behind the "moral" phrase, this thread has gotten so off track that it's simply turned into something so pathetic it makes me ill reading what others project about gay people, I guess that ignorance really is bliss.
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The # of gay people is not going to change, there's not going to be some massive population explosion if we were to get married, amazing how people love to project and therorize.
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Back to my original responce on this issue......We simply want the same legal rights as everyone else, but if you want to continue to hide behind your deep rooted and blatant discrimination, feel free, for all that want to continue to make up stores about how we ruin society, feel free, it's a reflection of you, not me.....
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Civil rights are civil rights, either you are for everyone having the same rights as you or your not. If you feel that others should not have the same rights as you then you have elevated yourself to being superior and I hope that you live up to the expectations.
 

reefreak29

Active Member
Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
why can't people see that you only agree on what you believe in and how you were brought up. We all know the world has been changing through out history. that's Not going to stop..back in the 80's there was no rap music on MTV now there's nothing but rap or some other shows that have nothing to do with music..why? who's in charge of the media? and telecasts.?
It's all about what the mayority of the civilized population believe in righ?
So yes we all know that homosexuallity will keep growing and keep being accepted, the World keeps changing..
Education: doesn't teach you the benefits of being gay.
How can you Not believe in something that makes so much sense like the word of God..I'm not saying to take it Literally but just read it and come out with your own conclusions.. enuf said about religion, but it makes sense so i use it as a Guideline..
If you DON"T believe in God then you think all of our world was an Accident?
what backs this theory up? science?
well unfortunatly sin will always win thats just the way the world is going as it was said in revelations so i think this is a dead issue, each side might as well be talking to a wall
 

michaeltx

Moderator
very true on every one I beleive we have all beat this thread till its dead and we have all come to an impass none of us will change our minds on the way we feel about it until it comes up in our own family and we have to make that descion then.
we have all even myself strayed from the original topic that was first posted not about each thing but on the goverment haveing there say on it basically.
I would like to take a moment to thank everyone for being civil on this most of the time these threads become heated arguments and trust me when I say this one was watched closely
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The one thing we all can agree on is to disagree.
I am going to close the thread for this reason because its come to end of a very long thread. i hope no one minds.
Thanks everyone.
Mike.
 
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