getting very angry with my lfs

sparty059

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While I was waiting I took another measurement of the bulkheads... it looks like they are 1 1/2" and 1". I don't know if that changes anything or makes this situation a better situation... but that's what I am was able to measure.
 

sparty059

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That's what it seems like when I measure them. So yes, 1.5" drain, 1" return.
Tell me that makes it a much better situation!
 

2quills

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Yeah...the 1.5 drain is better than a 1" drain. I have two 1.5" drains on my 120G. Again, if it were me, I'd see if I had room to add a second one.
 

2quills

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From the looks of it, I think the bulkhead for your return is 3/4". The best way to get the measurements for those is to measure the inside diameter of the hole.
I wonder if you can slide the two tanks together and take an accurate measurement of the top of the 20g long tank to the very bottom of the black plastic trim on the tallker tank. That should give us a better idea to see if you can install bigger bulkheads on there than the 3/4's. It looks like you might be able to fit some 1.5" bulkheads in there for drains into the sump.
 

sparty059

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Is it going to be THAT big of a difference if I use the ones that I ordered? Otherwise I'm going to have to send them back in the mail and wait to get another set as well as the drill bit.
 

2quills

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No, I'm sure it will be fine. There's always little tricks to fix things if it ever came down to that. It's just when it comes to keeping a large volume of water contained in a box in your house most folks like to play it as safe as possible.
 

sparty059

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So you're saying I should play it safe and just order the other set? If so, I'll place the order right now. Just let me know what drill bit size and what bulkhead size I would need.
 

2quills

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Slide the tanks together and take the measurement...lets just see what would be possible to fit before you change anything.
Measure from the top of the shorter tank to the bottom of the black plastic trim on the taller tank.
 

2quills

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If you're carefull about your placement of the holes that you drill then you should be able to fit 1.5" bulkheads. At this point I think the decision should be yours to make whether you want to go with the bigger ones or not. I'd hate to tell you to do something and then have something bad happen and you blame me for it lol.
 

sparty059

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You think I should DOUBLE the size of the bulkheads that I ordered?
By the way don't worry, I'm aware you're telling me what to do, but I know ultimately I have the final say... whatever I do regardless if it's what you told me or what I decided I will blame entirely on myself... so keep your comments and suggestions coming. Besides... the tanks cost $15 a piece... I can spare a few tanks to be safe from an overflow.
 

2quills

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I think it would be a safer bet. There is always risk in this hobby no matter what you do. Nothing is ever a 100% garanteed. But you'd give yourself much better odds. That's what I think.
 

posiden

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I think your gonna be just fine with the two 3/4" bulkheads for the flow from the refug to the sump. Even more so if you split the drain line.
I was just guessing you had a 1" and a 3/4" bulkhead. I think that more so based on your video. Measure the inside of them.
If this were my tank I would make the return go out the back of the stand and run it up over the top to the return lock line. This way I could turn the two existing bulkheads into a Herbie drain method. Run the 3/4" bulkhead in a full siphon and let the 1" be the balance. Then you can split the 3/4" full siphon drain to both tanks underneath and have a totally silent drain setup. Run the 1" straight or as close to straight as you can into the sump tank only. This way its guaranteed to be silent in the drain department and you don't have to drill the display tank.
I would only look into adding a baffle to the input of the refug. This way your input water wont blow any sand around if you should choose to do a deep sand bed or a more thin one some time down the road. Sand beds have pros and cons. If you should choose to venture into a deep sand bed, its a good thing that tank is detached from the sump. You can easily shut it down and fix any problems with the bed without affecting your other filtration.
 

posiden

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Originally Posted by 2Quills
http:///forum/post/3294564
If you're carefull about your placement of the holes that you drill then you should be able to fit 1.5" bulkheads. At this point I think the decision should be yours to make whether you want to go with the bigger ones or not. I'd hate to tell you to do something and then have something bad happen and you blame me for it lol.
I wonder about the distance from the edge of the glass to the edge of the hole? I know bulkheads add strength to the glass but, that's getting close IMO.
 

posiden

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Oh yea,
That looks like PC lighting. If that's so, your gonna need more robust lighting if a reef is in your future. T-5' or Halides are my choice. If you game LEDs are the new craze.
 
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