getting very angry with my lfs

sparty059

Active Member
Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3294588
If this were my tank I would make the return go out the back of the stand and run it up over the top to the return lock line. This way I could turn the two existing bulkheads into a Herbie drain method. Run the 3/4" bulkhead in a full siphon and let the 1" be the balance. Then you can split the 3/4" full siphon drain to both tanks underneath and have a totally silent drain setup. Run the 1" straight or as close to straight as you can into the sump tank only. This way its guaranteed to be silent in the drain department and you don't have to drill the display tank.
I don't think I can do this because of the canopy that I have. It has a small opening that will not allow me to put a pipe through... also, I have a cover over the overflow that won't let me cover it if I put a pipe in over the top. But this shouldn't be a bad thing if I can't do this... right? So you think I should just stick with the 3/4" bulkhead?... I was kind of thinking if I use the 1 1/2" then it'll be cutting the glass very close to the top you know? You think I shouldn't have any issue with overflow or any problems if I keep the 3/4" bulk?
 

sparty059

Active Member
Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3294598
Oh yea,
That looks like PC lighting. If that's so, your gonna need more robust lighting if a reef is in your future. T-5' or Halides are my choice. If you game LEDs are the new craze.
HUH?!?!?!? I NEED TO GET NEW LIGHTS!?!?!??!?!? When I had that going I had only one side going... the other side was off so maybe that's why it wasn't bright enough?
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3294593
I wonder about the distance from the edge of the glass to the edge of the hole? I know bulkheads add strength to the glass but, that's getting close IMO.
It's close, but it's a very short distance...and if done right the sump tank can support the drain pipe or support could be added if it seemed necissary. But I don't think it would be.
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Sparty059
http:///forum/post/3294602
HUH?!?!?!? I NEED TO GET NEW LIGHTS!?!?!??!?!? When I had that going I had only one side going... the other side was off so maybe that's why it wasn't bright enough?
For reef...yes you will need much better lighting.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by Sparty059
http:///forum/post/3294602
HUH?!?!?!? I NEED TO GET NEW LIGHTS!?!?!??!?!? When I had that going I had only one side going... the other side was off so maybe that's why it wasn't bright enough?
LOL.....IT NEVER ENDS.............SW TANKS are money pits
 

2quills

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Sparty, just install the 3/4" bulkheads, if you need to re-size them (I don't think you will) you can always do that...it's not that hard to do...I can show you the method if it ever came down to it.
 

sparty059

Active Member
Originally Posted by 2Quills
http:///forum/post/3294610
You have time for lights later...you won't be adding corals for at least 6 months.
haha, if you say so... I kind of assumed I was going to add coral right away with it... I like how colorful everything looks when they're in there!
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by Sparty059
http:///forum/post/3294611
haha, if you say so... I kind of assumed I was going to add coral right away with it... I like how colorful everything looks when they're in there!
You don't even have water yet....LOL.....once you get hooked up....you still have to do your cycle and all that....
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Sparty059
http:///forum/post/3294611
haha, if you say so... I kind of assumed I was going to add coral right away with it... I like how colorful everything looks when they're in there!
No...you need to let the tank mature first. It's going to go through many changes the first few monthes and won't be stable enough to keep corals alive. It can and has been done earlier than that but that is only by the most experienced keepers who really know what they are doing.
Just trying to save you some money and headaches.
It will be about 6 weeks before you can add your first fish after the tank cycles.
 

2quills

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Hey, we haven't even started talking about setting up a quarantine tank yet...you still have a ways to go and alot more money to spend, my friend. Get used to it lol.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by 2Quills
http:///forum/post/3294615
Hey, we haven't even started talking about setting up a quarantine tank yet...you still have a ways to go and alot more money to spend, my friend. Get used to it lol.
SAD....BUT TRUE

maybe I should be crying
 

sparty059

Active Member
Originally Posted by 2Quills
http:///forum/post/3294614
No...you need to let the tank mature first. It's going to go through many changes the first few monthes and won't be stable enough to keep corals alive. It can and has been done earlier than that but that is only by the most experienced keepers who really know what they are doing.
Just trying to save you some money and headaches.
It will be about 6 weeks before you can add your first fish after the tank cycles.
Hey everyone! Stop being the barer of bad news! I want fish right away!
I thought if I have live rock, live sand, good filter system... the whole nine yards it only takes a few days and I can start to add fish!?
!!!!!
 

sparty059

Active Member
Originally Posted by 2Quills
http:///forum/post/3294615
Hey, we haven't even started talking about setting up a quarantine tank yet...you still have a ways to go and alot more money to spend, my friend. Get used to it lol.
HA - HA! I am one step ahead! I ALREADY HAVE A QUARANTINE TANK! I bought it when I bought my other tank because someone had it for $50 a 60 gallon hexagon tank. So I thought it would be a great thing to have.
Oh, and they had 30lbs of live rock that I'm pretty sure I killed by trying to add dead rock and used tap water/salt to fill the tank... oopsies...
It did pass the leak test though!
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Sparty059
http:///forum/post/3294619
HA - HA! I am one step ahead! I ALREADY HAVE A QUARANTINE TANK! I bought it when I bought my other tank because someone had it for $50 a 60 gallon hexagon tank. So I thought it would be a great thing to have.
Good man!
Adding fish right away is a big gamble...not to mention very stressful and a down right rude thing to do to a fish.
 

sparty059

Active Member
Fiiiine, I won't add fish RIGHT away... but maybe after a few weeks... I can't wait 6 weeks... I'm impusive!
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by Sparty059
http:///forum/post/3294622
Fiiiine, I won't add fish RIGHT away... but maybe after a few weeks... I can't wait 6 weeks... I'm impusive!
LOL....Then SW is not for you....I am the most impatient person in the world....and if I can wait....I bet you can too
you really have to be patient in this hobby....painful as it is LOL
and I don't think you are supposed to pur sand and lr in a QT....there is a section on setting up a qt in the new hobby section....and in the fish disease section.....read it over....
 

2quills

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Sparty059
http:///forum/post/3294622
Fiiiine, I won't add fish RIGHT away... but maybe after a few weeks... I can't wait 6 weeks... I'm impusive!
Sparty, unless you want to have the a REAL headache...you'll put your fish into quarantine for at least 4 weeks before you ever add them to your display tank for monitoring. Unless you want to infect your display tank with parasites and destroy your livestock...you'll at least do that.
 
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