Global Warming?

[oscardeuce]

Originally Posted by SigmaChris
http:///forum/post/2481411
It's been a long day so I am a little confused, are you actually AGAINST women's rights, gay rights, and minorities rights or is that sarcasm? If the former, what rights do you propose on taking away from them, voting, driving, free speech?

You have asked the question which is the base of current Democrat policy. Group politics or cultural Marxism. Identify the group, then identify its harm. Claim to be "for" the group. Claim the other side is "against" the group.
John Edwards: His 2 Americas speech ( rich vs poor)
Hillary "I'm going to take those profits" speech rich vs poor, capitaltism vs socialism, worker vs executive
No one says if you are gay you do not have the basic rights of everyone else. You many not get "extra" rights, but you are given "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". No group gets more or less, unless you buy into the liberal brainwashing. I'd argue a Consitiutional Conservative gives more liberties to these groups wihtout the baggage liberals carry.
BTW driving is not a "right" it is a priviledge.
McCain-Finegold limits "free speech", and gives groups like moveon.org, George Soros more power than the People.

 

[mfp1016]

Originally Posted by Fishy.....
http:///forum/post/2481162
I am always amused that there seem to be so many people (usually die-hard Republicans) that claim global warming is a myth. And in any case I would still find it hard to believe that people deny the fact that while we may be going through a warming cycle mankind is accelerating and magnifying that cycle.
I'm not jumping on the "GW is a myth" bandwagon because I'm a republican; rather I'm jumping on head first because I'm a scientist. It is a load of crap! Whats more a load of crap??? Every single "alternative" fuel we have come up with, the economics, and energy balance never work out and have never worked out. Inherent within that context are several unchangeable factors that will always allow gasoline to produced more effectively. Also did you know that the production yield from crude oil distillation is nearly 100%? There is not other industrial process that is more studied and refined than oil production. Most "alternative" energies simply detract from putting money back in to oil, which surprise surprise has been kind of pay for the R&D for those silly alternative energies (yes they are nothing new, most were conceived in the 70's or before).
Like Journeyman said, I'm not arguing against climate change; I'm just asking people to look into the topic for themselves instead of buying into a load of crap that a politician and his speech writer conjured up on the private jet flight back to their base of operations.
Furthermore, you can even look to quasi-modern Central European history to aid you in the truth. Initially most Germanic tribes resided in the South of France, Czech Republic, Western Hungary, Romania and other Aegean states. Around the Gregorian calendar's 1 BC/1 AD crossover, there is evidence that suggest localized warming in Europe thus causing flux towards the Scandinavian countries; while in Asia there was localized cooling causing a flux of people deeper into Southeast Asia.
I am always amused that there seem to be so many people (usually die-hard Democrats) that helplessly buy into whatever conspiracy theory their leftist-politician is producing.
I also find it amusing that so many Americans have very developed opinions regarding the science of global warming; however they still question the much older, mature science of nuclear power. I also find it amusing that so many Americans have opinions on this science while ignoring more important issues. For example, why is the public not concerned with the issue of ascribing reference chemical potentials to gaseous equilibrium mixtures. This issue has far more impact on the world; as this would lead to more refined industrial processes. For example, by tackling the chemical potential issue, you could cut pharmaceutical costs by nearly 25% because you are no longer charged with the task of using ASTM methods to control your product yield, the system has greater control. In turn this would lead to cheaper pharmaceuticals; thus the drugs become more available to the world. Perhaps, malaria could be decreased, cancers receded, and AIDS inhibited. But for some reason this issue has neither been reported on, nor embraced by any politician Rep or Dem.
I'd also like to add that this whole global climate change is a load of crap as well. At high humidity the effects of CO2 as a greenhouse gas become negated by the more powerful effect of water vapor in the air.

 

[mfp1016]

Originally Posted by SigmaChris
http:///forum/post/2481411
It's been a long day so I am a little confused, are you actually AGAINST women's rights, gay rights, and minorities rights or is that sarcasm? If the former, what rights do you propose on taking away from them, voting, driving, free speech?
I'm opposed to anyone under the age of 25 voting. I'm also opposed to granting suffrage to people who do not have direct involvement with the government, i.e. paying taxes, what have you.
One thing I have always wondered is why the left is not opposed to Islam. I'm not even talking about the radical wings, I'm talking about the core religion. They're treatment of women is appalling. I don't know how they treat gays because apparently they don't exist there. Just wondering. Having lived in Saudi Arabia and the UAE for several years each I don't see why Islam isn't the largest case against human rights in the contemporary world.

 

[cowfishrule]

remember live earth?
al gore's big ol' grandstand?
how much energy do you think that used up?
especially flying (or sailing) the arctic monkey's to antartica to perform in front of 12 scientists and back.
good job genius. thank god florida cant count.

 

[bdhutier]

Originally Posted by mfp1016
http:///forum/post/2482344
One thing I have always wondered is why the left is not opposed to Islam. I'm not even talking about the radical wings, I'm talking about the core religion. They're treatment of women is appalling. I don't know how they treat gays because apparently they don't exist there. Just wondering. Having lived in Saudi Arabia and the UAE for several years each I don't see why Islam isn't the largest case against human rights in the contemporary world.
Because the left is inherently afraid... I don't think it's particularly coincidental that the overwhelming majority of military members are conservative. The left knows how crazy many of the Muslims can be, and are scared of them. Having been over there too (but not as long as you), many of those guys are NUTS (when they aren't being lazy as all get-out)!!!

 

[sigmachris]

Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/2482206
You have asked the question which is the base of current
BTW driving is not a "right" it is a priviledge.
Yes...I know it isn't a right...I was trying to portray women circa 1880 to 1930 and see if the previous poster thought this is how it should be still.

 

[cowfishrule]

this may be way out, so please correct me if i am wrong.
doesnt the bill that included woman's right expire this year?

 

[sigmachris]

Originally Posted by mfp1016
http:///forum/post/2482336
I am always amused that there seem to be so many people (usually die-hard Democrats) that helplessly buy into whatever conspiracy theory their leftist-politician is producing.
The same could be said of Republicans or any individual who blindly follows their groups / leaders direction without researching it on their own.
I did like what you said and I am paraphrasing...that any alternative fuel that is discovered can't be cheaply made or at least cost competitive with oil. I would suspect oil lobbyists have something to do with that.

 

[sigmachris]

Originally Posted by mfp1016
http:///forum/post/2482344
One thing I have always wondered is why the left is not opposed to Islam. I'm not even talking about the radical wings, I'm talking about the core religion. They're treatment of women is appalling. I don't know how they treat gays because apparently they don't exist there. Just wondering. Having lived in Saudi Arabia and the UAE for several years each I don't see why Islam isn't the largest case against human rights in the contemporary world.
I concur and I will also go as far as to include China. Why do we continue to give them "Favorite Nation" trading status when they commit crimes against humanity to their citizens and in particular females.

 

[sigmachris]

Originally Posted by COWFISHRULE
http:///forum/post/2482388
this may be way out, so please correct me if i am wrong.
doesnt the bill that included woman's right expire this year?
I don't know which bill you are referring to, but the 19th Amendment gives women and everyone else the right to vote (suffrage).

 

[sigmachris]

Originally Posted by COWFISHRULE
http:///forum/post/2482388
this may be way out, so please correct me if i am wrong.
doesnt the bill that included woman's right expire this year?
To follow up and I am by no means and expert on the legislative branch. A bill is introduced to Congress to be debated, amended, passed or denied. In which order I am not exactly clear, if it goes to the House or Senate first.
Once a bill is approved it becomes an "Act" like the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (which may be the "bill" you are referring to). Its my understanding that the "Act" becomes law and does not expire unless Congress works to retract it from law.
If anyone else who is more up to speed on the legislative process wants to correct me, please do.

 

[salty blues]

Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/2482206
You have asked the question which is the base of current Democrat policy. Group politics or cultural Marxism. Identify the group, then identify its harm. Claim to be "for" the group. Claim the other side is "against" the group.
John Edwards: His 2 Americas speech ( rich vs poor)
Hillary "I'm going to take those profits" speech rich vs poor, capitaltism vs socialism, worker vs executive
No one says if you are gay you do not have the basic rights of everyone else. You many not get "extra" rights, but you are given "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". No group gets more or less, unless you buy into the liberal brainwashing. I'd argue a Consitiutional Conservative gives more liberties to these groups wihtout the baggage liberals carry.
BTW driving is not a "right" it is a priviledge.
McCain-Finegold limits "free speech", and gives groups like moveon.org, George Soros more power than the People.

 

[1journeyman]

Laws are passed all the time with expiration dates. (For a great example look to the FISA Bill that allows our Intel Services to intercept FOREIGN phone calls. The bill was up for renewal and our dear Speaker of the House decided to let Congress go on vacation rather than passing the Senate version of the renewal).
That said, Women getting the right to vote is an Amendment to the Constitutional and has no such expiration date.

 

[sigmachris]

Journey you are right...but a follow up question for my personal lesson of the day...are bills / laws automatically have expiration dates on them or are those dates built into the bill. In other words are all laws passed never to expire UNLESS an expiration date is included?

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by SigmaChris
http:///forum/post/2482444
Journey you are right...but a follow up question for my personal lesson of the day...are bills / laws automatically have expiration dates on them or are those dates built into the bill. In other words are all laws passed never to expire UNLESS an expiration date is included?
They have to have expiration dates written into them, as far as I know. Certainly nothing in the Constitution says bills expire unless noted otherwise.
I encourage you to read the Constitution when you get a chance... I had to read through it last year for a test I was taking. It's pretty fascinating.

 

[sigmachris]

I browsed through it an hour ago just to confirm that it was the 19th Amendment that gave voting to women in 1920.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by SigmaChris
http:///forum/post/2482480
I browsed through it an hour ago just to confirm that it was the 19th Amendment that gave voting to women in 1920.
And the country has been going to Hell ever since

Notice the laughing smiley indicating that was a joke

 

[mfp1016]

Originally Posted by SigmaChris
http:///forum/post/2482396
The same could be said of Republicans or any individual who blindly follows their groups / leaders direction without researching it on their own.
I did like what you said and I am paraphrasing...that any alternative fuel that is discovered can't be cheaply made or at least cost competitive with oil. I would suspect oil lobbyists have something to do with that.
It may be hard to believe but they really just do not work out. Oil lobbyists aside, they don't work as well, as economically, nor do they yield as many byproducts. This is not an issue of bribery, or conspiracy; and this is a matter I have direct experience with.

 

[mfp1016]

Originally Posted by SigmaChris
http:///forum/post/2482396
The same could be said of Republicans or any individual who blindly follows their groups / leaders direction without researching it on their own.
I did like what you said and I am paraphrasing...that any alternative fuel that is discovered can't be cheaply made or at least cost competitive with oil. I would suspect oil lobbyists have something to do with that.
Its also just an issue of chemistry and physics. Alternative energies require far more energy, and that is tangible in the specialty parts they require, and the other high energy chemicals that must be made for their use, i.e. H2, electro-chemical cells. When considering AE you need to consider the production energy costs, which do not even come close to the economics of oil.

 

[sigmachris]

When you say Production Energy Costs...are you referring to the whole cost of setting up the infrastructure of a new energy source?
Or infrastructure aside, the cost of producing a gallon of gas versus the cost of producing a gallon of Ethynol?