Guide To Getting Your Questions Answered!

natclanwy

Active Member
Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2956456
The aquarium doesn't ring up post counts, those don't count. I agree with the high post count and broad statement, I think I know who your referring too. Impossibly high count for join date, and posts are all the same "CANNED" responses. Like get a QT, do a water change, blah blah blah....
I didn't know that, has it always been that way? I always figured thats where these high post counts came from since when you look up the posts by these users most of them will be in the aquarium. Either way you know the ones I am talking about and thanks for the clarification.
 

sjk2840

Member
Thanks for clearing up the posting issue Snake, I would like to thank everyone who has also answered some of my questions in the past also. I do read a lot on this forum and have learned a lot.
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2956456
You also need to make sure you know what question it is you are asking, Then think about how to articulate that. I have seen several posts where the OP didn't really even know what question it was they were asking. Sometimes it would take two or three replies, just for them to figure out what it was they needed to ask..

Also, know your equipment, your parameters, your stock list, post these along in the thread. Otherwise some will have to post, just to see them. Don't be vague either like "all my parameters are good" that means absolutely nothing. You can make a list in notepad with your equipment, stock list and list of parameters. Then when you post, go to it, copy/paste it into the thread, then fill in the parameters.

The aquarium doesn't ring up post counts, those don't count. I agree with the high post count and broad statement, I think I know who your referring too. Impossibly high count for join date, and posts are all the same "CANNED" responses. Like get a QT, do a water change, blah blah blah....
Not to go off on a tangent but don’t you think, “Canned” responses in some situations are the only valid response? Example. My established tank has just spiked ammonia what should I do. Canned response. Do a water change. Also hard to equate the time one started on the boards to how much time they spend on the boards don’t you think
 

wattsupdoc

Active Member
Example. My established tank has just spiked ammonia what should I do. Canned response. Do a water change.
Example of an experienced uncanned response...better IMO btw..
Try using some amquel to help lock it up, amquel will detoxify the ammonia. Doing a water change of 20% would be a good thing also. I would dose the amquel if you can quickly get your hands on some, then do a water change. Vise versa if you have SW made and cant get to the amquel. Also there are some ammonia absorbing filter media's out there, you can try using one of those. I have safely used the poly fiber ammonia pads before.
Sometimes yes it is definitely the proper response. However, many times there are other things that can and should be done. Frequently the "canned" responses become a substitute for experience. Doing a water change is always a good thing, however many times there are other things that can and could or should be done in lieu of this. For the ammonia issue, doing a water change will only dilute it, not remove or neutralize it. While using temporarily a little amquel will immediately lock it up...Whats the best thing to do? Also, when someone is having an issue and systematically loosing fish the poster replies with the canned response of "take this time to set up a proper QT tank". Without giving help to the poster. Meanwhile the OP is supposed to just sit back and watch their remaining fish die.

There are several people here who want to be a big shot, and give not so good advise. But believe they are giving the best advise, not enough thought is given to replys because people are blowing through trying to beat someone else to the post, or their experience doesnt lend them the benefit of offering a better answer.
Also hard to equate the time one started on the boards to how much time they spend on the boards don’t you think


I spend soooo much time on these boards much more than I post. I cant imagine anyone who has a job spending more time here than myself. For what 3 years now? I've still only got a count of less than 3000. Anyone who has a post count of 16000 in this time frame is solely trying to jack up their post count. Giving the canned responses is a great way to do this and still appear helpful. Yeah it's hard to equate, but I see many people who have a certain count in a certain period of time and it is definitive that they can only be either glory seeking or post count jacking...Either is both really.
 

gmann1139

Active Member
Originally Posted by natclanwy
http:///forum/post/2956427
I look to see where there posts are at and what type of responses they are giving to others IE if someone has a 3000 post count and 2500 of them are in the aquarium section
Pretty sure Aquarium posts don't count towards your Post Count.
Just tried to confirm that, but haven't been able to based on searches.
Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33

http:///forum/post/2956457
Your welcome all. Anyone feel like this thread needs to be stickied?
Uh, you want to have it cleaned up first? Its not quite hijacked, but I think they're about to break through the cockpit door.
 

lauremf2002

Member
This is a newbie saying Thank You All! BTW I try to help other newbies who are asking questions that I have already asked, by simply repeating what I was told. This isnt frowned upon is it? I just want to pay it forward you know...
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2957053
Example of an experienced uncanned response...better IMO btw..
Try using some amquel to help lock it up, amquel will detoxify the ammonia. Doing a water change of 20% would be a good thing also. I would dose the amquel if you can quickly get your hands on some, then do a water change. Vise versa if you have SW made and cant get to the amquel. Also there are some ammonia absorbing filter media's out there, you can try using one of those. I have safely used the poly fiber ammonia pads before.
Sometimes yes it is definitely the proper response. However, many times there are other things that can and should be done. Frequently the "canned" responses become a substitute for experience. Doing a water change is always a good thing, however many times there are other things that can and could or should be done in lieu of this. For the ammonia issue, doing a water change will only dilute it, not remove or neutralize it. While using temporarily a little amquel will immediately lock it up...Whats the best thing to do? Also, when someone is having an issue and systematically loosing fish the poster replies with the canned response of "take this time to set up a proper QT tank". Without giving help to the poster. Meanwhile the OP is supposed to just sit back and watch their remaining fish die.

There are several people here who want to be a big shot, and give not so good advise. But believe they are giving the best advise, not enough thought is given to replys because people are blowing through trying to beat someone else to the post, or their experience doesnt lend them the benefit of offering a better answer.And as long as we are talking about ammonia a water change is not diluting the ammonia it is removing a percentage. You are taking water away and replacing it not adding to the volume. As far as amquel it neutralizes ammonia and makes it not toxic BUT you still will get an ammonia reading when you test. You do not know for a fact if it is working
I spend soooo much time on these boards much more than I post. I cant imagine anyone who has a job spending more time here than myself. For what 3 years now? I've still only got a count of less than 3000. Anyone who has a post count of 16000 in this time frame is solely trying to jack up their post count. Giving the canned responses is a great way to do this and still appear helpful. Yeah it's hard to equate, but I see many people who have a certain count in a certain period of time and it is definitive that they can only be either glory seeking or post count jacking...Either is both really.

How about you and I push for this change. No post counts just an honest statement as to your own experience. Novice, intermediate, advanced and Expert. I realize it would be subjective. But if one were honest in there assessment of their ability that is all that is needed There would be no rewords for high post counts. There would only be the satisfaction of helping a fellow hobbyist
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2957053
Example of an experienced uncanned response...better IMO btw..
Try using some amquel to help lock it up, amquel will detoxify the ammonia. Doing a water change of 20% would be a good thing also. I would dose the amquel if you can quickly get your hands on some, then do a water change. Vise versa if you have SW made and cant get to the amquel. Also there are some ammonia absorbing filter media's out there, you can try using one of those. I have safely used the poly fiber ammonia pads before.
Sometimes yes it is definitely the proper response. However, many times there are other things that can and should be done. Frequently the "canned" responses become a substitute for experience. Doing a water change is always a good thing, however many times there are other things that can and could or should be done in lieu of this. For the ammonia issue, doing a water change will only dilute it, not remove or neutralize it. While using temporarily a little amquel will immediately lock it up...Whats the best thing to do? Also, when someone is having an issue and systematically loosing fish the poster replies with the canned response of "take this time to set up a proper QT tank". Without giving help to the poster. Meanwhile the OP is supposed to just sit back and watch their remaining fish die.

There are several people here who want to be a big shot, and give not so good advise. But believe they are giving the best advise, not enough thought is given to replys because people are blowing through trying to beat someone else to the post, or their experience doesnt lend them the benefit of offering a better answer.
I spend soooo much time on these boards much more than I post. I cant imagine anyone who has a job spending more time here than myself. For what 3 years now? I've still only got a count of less than 3000. Anyone who has a post count of 16000 in this time frame is solely trying to jack up their post count. Giving the canned responses is a great way to do this and still appear helpful. Yeah it's hard to equate, but I see many people who have a certain count in a certain period of time and it is definitive that they can only be either glory seeking or post count jacking...Either is both really.

There are several people here who want to be a big shot, and give not so good advise. But believe they are giving the best advise, not enough thought is given to replys because people are blowing through trying to beat someone else to the post, or their experience doesnt lend them the benefit of offering a better answer.And as long as we are talking about ammonia a water change is not diluting the ammonia it is removing a percentage. You are taking water away and replacing it not adding to the volume. As far as amquel it neutralizes ammonia and makes it not toxic BUT you still will get an ammonia reading when you test. You do not know for a fact if it is working
 

teresaq

Active Member
I know my limitations and will only post advise of I am 100% sure Its the right thing. Even though I have been in this hobby for 4 yrs, I know I still have a lot to learn.
TeresaQ
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2957053
Example of an experienced uncanned response...better IMO btw..
Try using some amquel to help lock it up, amquel will detoxify the ammonia. Doing a water change of 20% would be a good thing also. I would dose the amquel if you can quickly get your hands on some, then do a water change. Vise versa if you have SW made and cant get to the amquel. Also there are some ammonia absorbing filter media's out there, you can try using one of those. I have safely used the poly fiber ammonia pads before.
Sometimes yes it is definitely the proper response. However, many times there are other things that can and should be done. Frequently the "canned" responses become a substitute for experience. Doing a water change is always a good thing, however many times there are other things that can and could or should be done in lieu of this. For the ammonia issue, doing a water change will only dilute it, not remove or neutralize it. While using temporarily a little amquel will immediately lock it up...Whats the best thing to do? Also, when someone is having an issue and systematically loosing fish the poster replies with the canned response of "take this time to set up a proper QT tank". Without giving help to the poster. Meanwhile the OP is supposed to just sit back and watch their remaining fish die.

There are several people here who want to be a big shot, and give not so good advise. But believe they are giving the best advise, not enough thought is given to replys because people are blowing through trying to beat someone else to the post, or their experience doesnt lend them the benefit of offering a better answer.
I spend soooo much time on these boards much more than I post. I cant imagine anyone who has a job spending more time here than myself. For what 3 years now? I've still only got a count of less than 3000. Anyone who has a post count of 16000 in this time frame is solely trying to jack up their post count. Giving the canned responses is a great way to do this and still appear helpful. Yeah it's hard to equate, but I see many people who have a certain count in a certain period of time and it is definitive that they can only be either glory seeking or post count jacking...Either is both really.

How about you and I push for this change. No post counts just an honest statement as to your own experience. Novice, intermediate advanced. Expert. I realize it would be subjective. But if one were honest in their assessment of their ability there would be no rewords for high post counts. There would only be the satisfaction of helping a fellow hobbyist . And as long as we are talking about ammonia a water change is not diluting the ammonia it is removing a percentage. You are taking water away and replacing it not adding to the volume. As far as amquel it neutralizes ammonia and makes it not toxic BUT you still will get an ammonia reading when you test. You do not know for a fact if it is working. But were are really not talking about ammonia now are we
 

wattsupdoc

Active Member
The problem is that ANY ammonia is toxic.Removing 20% of it is kinda useless.How many of use actually keep enough SW onhand to do anything larger? How quick can you get more made? The amquel works, I know this from experience. The thing is the canned response in your scenario is not the best response. Experience will tell you that. If someone was to just do your reply, they would have not as good results as if they used my reply. Now we cant always give the utmost possible response, but we can take some time and at least give as good a response as possible. My point is everyone should be trying to give the best help they can.
I don't know if the honor system would be the right thing or not. Everyone should take all things into consideration, let the general consensus be a guide also.
 

joe____17

Member
Huh? If doing a water change dilutes ammonia and ammo lock turns it into nitrate whats the best method on removing it?
 

natclanwy

Active Member
Originally Posted by gmann1139
http:///forum/post/2957066
Pretty sure Aquarium posts don't count towards your Post Count.
Yep, Doc corrected me on this already and I did verify that they don't count. I'm not sure that it has always been this way though
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bdhb12

Member
If we make the title funny or punish would you be more likely to read it over pics? Like "quickie question!" Or do you just look for pics?
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Snake, I am not so sure that this is a great thread, to be perfectly honest. It may be the way that some members feel, but not all. The problem with this is that you all think that new members will know how to search and will look at other threads. Sometimes they do, most of the time they do not. This board exists to help out fellow hobbyists. I have no problem helping people with situations time and time again. If it were the same person, then I would have an issue, but this site has new members every single day. They don't know where to look or how to post. I was in agreement with you while first reading this, then you start talking about why you wouldn't want to read someone else's post. That isn't helpful to the boards at all. If this thread didn't contain the negativity then it may have made sticky. As it is, it does not.
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/2957199
The problem is that ANY ammonia is toxic.Removing 20% of it is kinda useless.How many of use actually keep enough SW onhand to do anything larger? How quick can you get more made? The amquel works, I know this from experience. The thing is the canned response in your scenario is not the best response. Experience will tell you that. If someone was to just do your reply, they would have not as good results as if they used my reply. Now we cant always give the utmost possible response, but we can take some time and at least give as good a response as possible. My point is everyone should be trying to give the best help they can.
I don't know if the honor system would be the right thing or not. Everyone should take all things into consideration, let the general consensus be a guide also.
My friend I agree with you 100% a person in this hobby when dealing with any problem needs as much information as they can possible get. But I think you would have to agree that in certain situations they need the emergency room first and then the hospital proper
 

gmann1139

Active Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2957385
Snake, I am not so sure that this is a great thread, to be perfectly honest. It may be the way that some members feel, but not all. The problem with this is that you all think that new members will know how to search and will look at other threads. Sometimes they do, most of the time they do not. This board exists to help out fellow hobbyists. I have no problem helping people with situations time and time again. If it were the same person, then I would have an issue, but this site has new members every single day. They don't know where to look or how to post. I was in agreement with you while first reading this, then you start talking about why you wouldn't want to read someone else's post. That isn't helpful to the boards at all. If this thread didn't contain the negativity then it may have made sticky. As it is, it does not.
I agree with you that not everyone 'browses' before posting, so that unless you make this thread an 'alert' every time you start a new thread, there's no guarantee everyone will see it, much less read it.
As far as explaining why he does or doesn't click threads, Snake was giving his personal opinion, which I think is good to explain, as we all make personal choices over which threads to read.
I Know I Personally Ignore Any Thread That Is Written Like This. Its hard to read, and I personally find that type of typing insulting and unnecessary.
A well written thread that is descriptive in the title is more likely to get answers. That's not to say one that isn't won't be answered (we're not elitist jerks), but if I can quickly scan down and say "Oh, I know something about that" from reading the title, rather than a thread titled "Help" where I have to spend time reading the thread to figure out what its about.
We all only have a limited amount of time on the boards. A well-written title helps us spend that time as efficiently as possible.
 
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