Hello from a new guy
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ibanez
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Yes, what you need to be concerned with is the height under the stand. If you make your own sump, then you probably want at least 12 inches above the top of the tank. So you will need to look into what size of a sump you want under your tank. I would probably use a 40 gallon breeder tank for the sump if it was me. You can find the diimensions online for a 40 gallon breeder but I beleive it is 36 x 17 x 18. 17 tall 18 front to back.
cranberry
Active Member
Originally Posted by joeyfine
http:///forum/post/3252338
dont be silly thats in the bedroom
OMG! It IS Mini Florida Joe. We are all in trouble!
http:///forum/post/3252338
dont be silly thats in the bedroom
OMG! It IS Mini Florida Joe. We are all in trouble!
joeyfine
Member
Originally Posted by IbanEz
http:///forum/post/3252459
Yes, what you need to be concerned with is the height under the stand. If you make your own sump, then you probably want at least 12 inches above the top of the tank. So you will need to look into what size of a sump you want under your tank. I would probably use a 40 gallon breeder tank for the sump if it was me. You can find the diimensions online for a 40 gallon breeder but I beleive it is 36 x 17 x 18. 17 tall 18 front to back.
So the sub goes on top the tank into a tank in the stand? is this other tank what i would use for introductions and quarantines?
http:///forum/post/3252459
Yes, what you need to be concerned with is the height under the stand. If you make your own sump, then you probably want at least 12 inches above the top of the tank. So you will need to look into what size of a sump you want under your tank. I would probably use a 40 gallon breeder tank for the sump if it was me. You can find the diimensions online for a 40 gallon breeder but I beleive it is 36 x 17 x 18. 17 tall 18 front to back.
So the sub goes on top the tank into a tank in the stand? is this other tank what i would use for introductions and quarantines?
beaslbob
Well-Known Member
Let me give you my "over arching" concept for your considerations and modification.
To me the single most important thing is to get the plant life (macro algaes and other algaes) growing right from the start. then do all the rest. So the tank is balanced out and stabilized by the plant life right from the beginning.
But that's just my .02
To me the single most important thing is to get the plant life (macro algaes and other algaes) growing right from the start. then do all the rest. So the tank is balanced out and stabilized by the plant life right from the beginning.
But that's just my .02
joeyfine
Member
Originally Posted by beaslbob
http:///forum/post/3252516
Let me give you my "over arching" concept for your considerations and modification.
To me the single most important thing is to get the plant life (macro algaes and other algaes) growing right from the start. then do all the rest. So the tank is balanced out and stabilized by the plant life right from the beginning.
But that's just my .02
thanks for the advice. so would you start live rock, then sand bed, then plants and allow to cycle or do you put the plants in after the tank cycles?
http:///forum/post/3252516
Let me give you my "over arching" concept for your considerations and modification.
To me the single most important thing is to get the plant life (macro algaes and other algaes) growing right from the start. then do all the rest. So the tank is balanced out and stabilized by the plant life right from the beginning.
But that's just my .02
thanks for the advice. so would you start live rock, then sand bed, then plants and allow to cycle or do you put the plants in after the tank cycles?
beaslbob
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by joeyfine
http:///forum/post/3252517
thanks for the advice. so would you start live rock, then sand bed, then plants and allow to cycle or do you put the plants in after the tank cycles?
that's a very good question.
I would start is the macro algae being the fist thing added after adding water. Then do the rest.
Sure add the rock, get it setup looking nice and so on. then immediately add the macro algaes and arrange.
Even if the macro does not do well. you can add some bioload then try some more. You will get the macros thriving which indicates the tank is ready for fiah.
Meanwhile it is entirely possible the "cycle" will not have measureable ammonia/nitrates because the macros prefer to consume ammonia directly.
my .02
http:///forum/post/3252517
thanks for the advice. so would you start live rock, then sand bed, then plants and allow to cycle or do you put the plants in after the tank cycles?
that's a very good question.
I would start is the macro algae being the fist thing added after adding water. Then do the rest.
Sure add the rock, get it setup looking nice and so on. then immediately add the macro algaes and arrange.
Even if the macro does not do well. you can add some bioload then try some more. You will get the macros thriving which indicates the tank is ready for fiah.
Meanwhile it is entirely possible the "cycle" will not have measureable ammonia/nitrates because the macros prefer to consume ammonia directly.
my .02
joeyfine
Member
Originally Posted by beaslbob
http:///forum/post/3252544
that's a very good question.
I would start is the macro algae being the fist thing added after adding water. Then do the rest.
Sure add the rock, get it setup looking nice and so on. then immediately add the macro algaes and arrange.
Even if the macro does not do well. you can add some bioload then try some more. You will get the macros thriving which indicates the tank is ready for fiah.
Meanwhile it is entirely possible the "cycle" will not have measureable ammonia/nitrates because the macros prefer to consume ammonia directly.
my .02
Alright so make everything look pretty. add water then toss in the macros? is there a certain way to postion the macros? i guess i need to go read about plants!
http:///forum/post/3252544
that's a very good question.
I would start is the macro algae being the fist thing added after adding water. Then do the rest.
Sure add the rock, get it setup looking nice and so on. then immediately add the macro algaes and arrange.
Even if the macro does not do well. you can add some bioload then try some more. You will get the macros thriving which indicates the tank is ready for fiah.
Meanwhile it is entirely possible the "cycle" will not have measureable ammonia/nitrates because the macros prefer to consume ammonia directly.
my .02
Alright so make everything look pretty. add water then toss in the macros? is there a certain way to postion the macros? i guess i need to go read about plants!
handbanana
Member
Hey Joey, Welcome to the SWF world! Im pretty much a beginner as well but I was wondering if you considered sectioning off your sump to include a refugium to house your Macros instead of having them in your DT?
florida joe
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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3252483
OMG! It IS Mini Florida Joe. We are all in trouble!
I kind of like to refer to us as MAXI JOES if you get my drift
http:///forum/post/3252483
OMG! It IS Mini Florida Joe. We are all in trouble!
I kind of like to refer to us as MAXI JOES if you get my drift
ibanez
Member
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3252574
I kind of like to refer to us as MAXI JOES if you get my drift
You wear maxi pads?
http:///forum/post/3252574
I kind of like to refer to us as MAXI JOES if you get my drift
You wear maxi pads?
joeyfine
Member
Originally Posted by Handbanana
http:///forum/post/3252573
Hey Joey, Welcome to the SWF world! Im pretty much a beginner as well but I was wondering if you considered sectioning off your sump to include a refugium to house your Macros instead of having them in your DT?
i havent considered anything. all advice is welcomed
http:///forum/post/3252573
Hey Joey, Welcome to the SWF world! Im pretty much a beginner as well but I was wondering if you considered sectioning off your sump to include a refugium to house your Macros instead of having them in your DT?
i havent considered anything. all advice is welcomed
joeyfine
Member
Originally Posted by IbanEz
http:///forum/post/3252593
You wear maxi pads?
ya i dont want to be cosidered anythign maxi.
http:///forum/post/3252593
You wear maxi pads?
ya i dont want to be cosidered anythign maxi.
handbanana
Member
you HAVENT considered ANYTHING? that doesnt sound right.
joeyfine
Member
Originally Posted by Handbanana
http:///forum/post/3252611
you HAVENT considered ANYTHING? that doesnt sound right.
i should have said i have not taking anything into consideration yet. advice is welcomed!
http:///forum/post/3252611
you HAVENT considered ANYTHING? that doesnt sound right.
i should have said i have not taking anything into consideration yet. advice is welcomed!
beaslbob
Well-Known Member
Most saltwater fish and cleaner crews (especially crabs) will eat the soft macros. So it would be advisable to setup some kind of refugium to keep the fish away from the macros. I just crammed in an "egg crate" (1/4" square grid lighting diffuser) about 3" in front of the back glass. Then added 2 utility fixtures behind the tank pointing forward to light up that area. Then you can just add chaeto (brillo pad) or caulerpa prolifera between the grid and the back glass.
You could also setup an external refugium with a sump but that is more complex and I like to keep it simple.
Your various caulerpas will grow like a weed and actually be hard to keep pruned even if they do get established.
Finally you can get macros from local hobbiests. They are probably just tossing them out each week or month or so.
my .02
You could also setup an external refugium with a sump but that is more complex and I like to keep it simple.
Your various caulerpas will grow like a weed and actually be hard to keep pruned even if they do get established.
Finally you can get macros from local hobbiests. They are probably just tossing them out each week or month or so.
my .02