Hillary Clinton

[crimzy]

Originally Posted by mfp1016
Crizmy you have to be a HC supporter, having not mentioned any flaws or other issues than those that you did; meaning you painted only a small part of the picture of which to critique. Arguing with me is fruitless on this matter.
Um... okay... sure... you figured out my secret??!!
Anyway, I just posted what I know about her. Just wanted to get some more views and opinions. Have you noticed that I haven't argued at all with Hillary's opposition. Just wanted to learn a bit.
But you should also know something about me. I only argue with people that have something of substance to say. So you're right, arguing with you is fruitless.

 

[seasalt101]

everyone has the right to vote for who they see right for the job, basically i see it as you vote for the peson who see's things the way that particular voter agree's with most if you are an autoworker you vote democrat who has served the auto industry well, etc. etc. while i would not vote for a democrat even though it might serve me better to in my health crisis i look to the greater good in my beliefs, but that is why america is what it is, and i miss reagan too...tobin

 

[tangman99]

Originally Posted by reefraff
There has been a Bush or Clinton in charge for over 20 years. The two families are even tight. IT IS TIME FOR NEW BLOOD IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
Look at the dozen close friends friends and associates of the Clintons who were convicted in the White Water Scandel. Yep, Bill and Hill were just in the wrong place at the wrong time on that one. Sure. But there are a few other issues.
If you don't think hillarbeast is crooked research "Rose law firm billing records", "Vince Foster suicide" "Clinton Cattle futures trade", "Clinton Travel office firings", "Bimbo Eruption Squad", "Johnny Chung" or "Chinagate" "Marc Rich Pardon", "Hasidic Jews Pardon" "Filegate", "Loral Campaign contributions"
These are things I was thinking of and a few more that I was not even aware of at all. Of course this hasn't been proven but if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's a friggin duck!

 

[mfp1016]

Crimzy, nice blow, you really slipped it in under the radar. Kudos! All I was saying is that the idea of the thread is flawed. Albeit, it has been entertaining.
Oh, I can't help it. You didn't present all aspects of Hilary nor did you present any of her ideas clearly or wholely. Thats like me saying in 1926, in Germany, "Hey, any of you guys heard of this Hitler fellow, he said something about the working class, wants socialized medicine, university and civil services, hes for the people." Little did they know....
****I'm not comparing HC to Hitler, don't even go down that road....it was just a superfluous example to illustrate a point*****

 

[nigerbang]

Originally Posted by mfp1016
Crimzy, nice blow, you really slipped it in under the radar. Kudos! All I was saying is that the idea of the thread is flawed. Albeit, it has been entertaining.
Oh, I can't help it. You didn't present all aspects of Hilary nor did you present any of her ideas clearly or wholely. Thats like me saying in 1926, in Germany, "Hey, any of you guys heard of this Hitler fellow, he said something about the working class, wants socialized medicine, university and civil services, hes for the people." Little did they know....
****I'm not comparing HC to Hitler, don't even go down that road....it was just a superfluous example to illustrate a point*****
Yeah....He was all about re-unifying Germany....And for the people..But only German people

 

[crimzy]

Originally Posted by mfp1016
Crimzy, nice blow, you really slipped it in under the radar. Kudos! All I was saying is that the idea of the thread is flawed. Albeit, it has been entertaining.
Oh, I can't help it. You didn't present all aspects of Hilary nor did you present any of her ideas clearly or wholely. Thats like me saying in 1926, in Germany, "Hey, any of you guys heard of this Hitler fellow, he said something about the working class, wants socialized medicine, university and civil services, hes for the people." Little did they know....
****I'm not comparing HC to Hitler, don't even go down that road....it was just a superfluous example to illustrate a point*****
I've never seen someone try so hard to argue with me when I really am not arguing back. Doesn't really matter if you believe it or not but I posted a couple things that I know about Hillary's ideas and invited others to do the same. If I left some things out then it's because of ignorance and not loyalty. But anyway, your Hitler example is asinine, unless you are suggesting that Hillary is planning mass genocide.

 

[redinator]

I am not sure if I would vote for her but it would be cool to see the presidency as Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton.

 

[mfp1016]

Whats asinine is your inability to read what I wrote into the asterix'; I'm not comparing her to Hitler, not sure why you are....

 

[socal57che]

Originally Posted by mfp1016
I'm not comparing her to Hitler, not sure why you are....

if the shoe fits...........

 

[darthtang aw]

Another reason I think she and her family is crooked and won't get my vote.
1. Enron's chairman did meet with the president and the
vice president in the Oval Office.
2. Enron gave $420,000 to the president's party over
three years.
3. It donated $100,000 to the president's inauguration
festivities.
4. The Enron chairman stayed at the White House 11 times.
5. The corporation had access to the administration at
its highest level and even enlisted the
Commerce and State Departments to grease deals for it.
6. The taxpayer-supported Export-Import Bank subsidized
Enron for more than $600 million in
just one transaction.
All of this occurred while her husband was in office....don't tell me she isn't crooked.

 

[darthtang aw]

Figured this was fitting to bring a bit more humor.
This test only has one question, but it's a very important one. By giving an honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally. The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation in which you will have to make a decision. Remember your answer needs to be honest, yet spontaneous.
THE SITUATION:
You are in Miami , Florida . There is chaos all around you caused by a hurricane with severe flooding. This is a flood of biblical proportions. You are photo-journalist working for a major newspaper, caught in the middle of this epic disaster. The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot career-making photos. There are houses and people swirling around you, some disappearing under the water.
THE TEST
Suddenly you see a woman in the water. She is fighting for her life, trying not to be taken down with the debris. You move closer and she looks familiar.
You suddenly realize it's Hillary Clinton! At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take her under forever.
You have two options:
1. You can save the life of Hillary Clinton. or
2. You can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer Prize winning photo, documenting the death of one of the world's most powerful women.
THE QUESTION:
Here's the question, and please give an honest answer.....
"Would you select high contrast color film, or would you go with the classic simplicity of black and white?"

 

[shogun323]

Thanks Darth!!!!

 

[groupergenius]

Fuji film.

 

[reefraff]

But, But, But ENRON IS A BUSH SCANDLE!!!!! JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA'S NUKES. It doesn't matter that both problems occured during Clinton's term and were discovered during Bushes'.

 

[angelman]

I hate politics.
They all lie.
They all tell us what we want to hear to elect them.
None do anything to follow up on their platforms and yet we fall for it all over again.
Hillary on healthcare as part of her platform...........................
gee...............................
where have I possibly heard this before................................
hmmmm..........................
Let me think....................
I guess since I am an old fart, I seem to recall vividly that this was HER THING just 16 short/long years ago when her hubby was running for President.
What happened 16 yrs ago?
I guess if you wait 16 yrs, many will die off and you can start on the same platform for which you did nothing while your husband held office for two terms.

 

[tru conch]

heres my view as a two time iraq vet
1- she said that Gen Pateraus's report was bogus (something to that effect). so she has no confidence in the no. 1 guy in charge of iraq, when he is correct because i am implenting his plan and policies and see the direct effects of the surge. so why should i have confidence in her to lead the military (and me)? also i managed to survive when her hubby was in office, it was a fairly dark time in the military, with the somolia operation, and lack of action after terrorists attacks on US embassies and the USS Cole (im not 100% sure bill was still in office though), and the first world trade center bombings.
2- she voted against the flag desecration act. if you want to burn the flag, go live somewhere else where they do it for fun. just not around me.
3- she is anti gun. got an F rating from the NRA. i need to have my assualt rifles and handguns for riots and more importantly the zombie invasion
4- she wants to set up a socialist form of health care. is the healthcare system ****** Just a reminder folks, using "*" to beat the language filter is not acceptable. 1Journeyman up? yes, but i blame the big insurance companies, they need to be more regulated with their practices. a competive market, including health care ensures the best available, not what the govt tells you is available.

 

[tru conch]

heres my view as a two time iraq vet
1- she said that Gen Pateraus's report was bogus (something to that effect). so she has no confidence in the no. 1 guy in charge of iraq, when he is correct because i am implenting his plan and policies and see the direct effects of the surge. so why should i have confidence in her to lead the military (and me)? also i managed to survive when her hubby was in office, it was a fairly dark time in the military, with the somolia operation, and lack of action after terrorists attacks on US embassies and the USS Cole (im not 100% sure bill was still in office though), and the first world trade center bombings.
2- she voted against the flag desecration act. if you want to burn the flag, go live somewhere else where they do it for fun. just not around me.
3- she is anti gun. got an F rating from the NRA. i need to have my assualt rifles and handguns for riots and more importantly the zombie invasion
4- she wants to set up a socialist form of health care. is the healthcare system f*cked up? yes, but i blame the big insurance companies, they need to be more regulated with their practices. a competive market, including health care ensures the best available, not what the govt tells you is available.
5- we need change yes. but i am more of a moderate and will be looking at the most moderate candidate, not one that will further polarize the country. and im tired of the bush/clinton/bush cycle, it needs to end like a bad case of nitrates.

 

[darthtang aw]

something to think about regarding Govt. funded Medical. Basically this makes the hospitals and doctors government employees.....Ever try to sue the government for malpractice? You really think the U.S. Postal Service runs efficiently? Take a look how well you get your mail and the level of care your packages receive from people that get 20 dollars an hour...and you wonder why UPS, Fed EX, and DHL are in business? Government ran operations that serve the public don't operate well.

 

[lil' tanker]

Lol

 

[mike22cha]

I think both parties are soo hypocritical. They both have crappy leaders.