Hippo Tang in a 29?!

[cranberry]

Originally Posted by dingus890
http:///forum/post/3092740
Realy I meant no offense. I was just asking.

Truly sorry if I offended you.
ARGH! I'm not offended! I like these talks. I wish we had Siggies so I could put that in there!
Oh, and I edited... there's an extra sentence in there. You're fast.

 

[dingus890]

Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3092743
ARGH! I'm not offended! I like these talks. I wish we had Siggies so I could put that in there!
Oh, and I edited... there's an extra sentence in there. You're fast.
Haha..I was checking back quickly, I was like "I hope I didn't offend Cranberry"..lol
I never knew that about Anglers. I knew they were sensitive but I didn't know they up and die randomly. That's awful.
Quote from Cranberry:
"And if you would have said no, why didn't you? Why does every one tell me "Great Fish" and then tells the OP "No way"?
I didn't even know about your first Angler until yesterday when I found the thread ..lol.. I would have voiced my opinion.

 

[cranberry]

And we have to remember a 3g is a whole lot different from a 29. There are stability issues in a 3g that could kill a fish a lot easier without it being a size issue.
Would you have said "No" to my volitan in a 6g? What would your reasoning have been.
I am SO totally unoffendable with such things. Not to say I don't get ticked if someone is being an idiot. But a conversation would never do that.

 

[dingus890]

Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3092766
And we have to remember a 3g is a whole lot different from a 29. There are stability issues in a 3g that could kill a fish a lot easier without it being a size issue.
Would you have said "No" to my volitan in a 6g? What would your reasoning have been.
I am SO totally unoffendable with such things. Not to say I don't get ticked if someone is being an idiot. But a conversation would never do that.
I would say no if you were never planning to put it in a big tank when it gets bigger as they usually get 1' 3". But I would also say yes because you have more knowledge and experience to keep a 6 gallon stable.
This is just my opinion personally. I mean I deal with nano tanks too.
BTW I have never seen a lionfish so tiny before(your avatar picture) So awesome!

But too Volitans are not as active as Tangs and are not as nervous as Blue Hippos.
I think too for the tang, it is also a question as to how mature the tank is and does it have enough flow,turnover rate ect to meet the disolved oxygen needs of the tang which are usually sensitve.

 

[cranberry]

That's not a volitan in my avatar. I have 4 different types of lionfish right now.
Originally Posted by dingus890
http:///forum/post/3092794
But too Volitans are not as active as Tangs and are not as nervous as Blue Hippos.
True that. Valid point.

 

[ophiura]

Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3091898
Wouldn't a tiny tang be the same grow out situation?... a tiny tang to grow out in a 29?
(But I do advise against small tangs for people not experienced with them because of their survival rate.... so I too would say no go on the tang in a 29).
Oh, that not's a volitan in my avatar. That the "youngest" fish I have ever owned besides a seahorse. I have never seen such a small juvi. It's a Hawaiian Lionfish
I am not inconsistent in what I have said. I have stated that I am not necessarily opposed to it short term. But it is short term and I think to be done as the focus on the fish in terms of getting it established and not putting it in a bullying situation. I would not put it in a small tank as a community tank with other fish. And in addition, the fish you mention are very different, IMO, from a small tang which is much more active and just overall has a different behavior. This to me is not just a small fish, small tank...but what are the circumstances, plans and motivation for doing it.
In the case of the OP, I would still say no. The plans are not as a grow out system.

 

[aquaguy24]

A tiny angler or a tiny lion is waay more appropriate then a tiny tang in a 29g. Tangs swimming habits are a lot different then an angler. An angler can sit in the same spot for days. Just as long as u keep bioload incheck yr fine. Now a tang swims for miles and miles a day in search algea. So a 29g is really starving it from it's natural behavior.
I think this thread is a fake if u ask me.

 

[meowzer]

I think someone was just looking for differnt opinions based on what he is being told...BUT I do have a question....it is said you should QT tangs before putting them in a dt..right? ok....it is said to Qt FOR 4-8 WEEKS....right?? SOOOOO my question is...whst size is acceptable to qt a tang????? let's say for 6-8 weeks

 

[dbestnindy]

Why even get it if you can't keep it? Mine how grown like a week in just 2 months.

 

[bigjakec]

Originally Posted by DBESTNINDY
http:///forum/post/3093803
Why even get it if you can't keep it?
Some poeple do not share the attitude that you keep a fish for its life span. I see nothing wrong with keeping a fish for a couple years and then trading in personally or if the needs of the tank change. I had a dwarf flame angel that i just loved but i wanted to try to keep coral. I put some zoes in and after 8 mths he started nipping at them so he had to go.
I started a yellow tang in a 46 gal bow front. Way to small for long term but he lived in there for 2.5 years and i moved him to my 90 gal couple mths ago. Now while i know eventually he'll out grow even the 90, i'll be able to enjoy him for a few more years and if i choose not to put him into a bigger tank i'd trade him in.
People can have different views on fish keeping. There is nothing wrong with that. My wife thinks my 90 is a decoration for her living room, to me its much more. Some keepers like to get a fish for long term and thats all they have for years and years, there is nothing wrong with different values.
This post was started to ask how well would a small hippo keep in a smaller tank for the short term. IMO he can keep a smaller hippo in a 29 short term with good water. Seems he realizes that it will outgrow the tank. It not fair for anyone to question why he wants to get the fish short term. Now i realize this tread hasn't gotten carried away yet. But with statements like the one i quoted i see it now heading south quickly. Lets not let this happen.

 

[lord fu fu]

alrighty im not gonna get all hotheaded or anything because im doing the same thing i have a now 3" yellow tang in my 3o gal. tank and im gonna sell him in a week or two because he declared himself as king of the tank and any new fish will wither get mauled or forced to jump so he has to go... i think it is a good idea as long as you (and i know u will) trade him in when he gets to be too mcuh and the best part is you can keep doing it again and again

 

[cranberry]

K, How long did you have him? What size was he when you got him? What other fish are in there?
What is your water temperature and feeding schedule?

 

[ophiura]

Originally Posted by BigJakeC
http:///forum/post/3093860
This post was started to ask how well would a small hippo keep in a smaller tank for the short term. IMO he can keep a smaller hippo in a 29 short term with good water. Seems he realizes that it will outgrow the tank. It not fair for anyone to question why he wants to get the fish short term. Now i realize this tread hasn't gotten carried away yet. But with statements like the one i quoted i see it now heading south quickly. Lets not let this happen.

Actually, it was not short term.
He is being told by his LFS that it will be ok in the tank for a few years:
The owners of my LFS know everything there is to know about saltwater. In fact, they only do saltwater and reefs, they are pretty much experts. They insist that I could put a very small blue hippo tang in my 29 gallon biocube and it would be fine and happy. (the hippo is my favorite fish) All the workers there agree that he will outgrow the tank eventually, however, that will take a few years and then I can trade him in for alot of store credit. Anyways, they would never stear me wrong or give me wrong advice, and they even guarantee the fish for the life of it as long as my water is spot on and as long as I trade him in when they feel he is too big. (this LFS is great, they'll even come to my house to do favors and check my water)
He can trade it in when THEY feel he is too big.
I surely can't imagine anyone saying a blue tang...a HEALTHY blue tang...could survive "a few years" in a 29g biocube. I'm astonished, truthfully.
So if it was keeping it short term, that is one thing -such as in a QT, or a grow out system, or something like that. But, IMO, the question being asked is very different and I think the assurances by the LFS are a bit unrealistic.

 

[bullitr]

i grow my current 5" from a sized of a quarter and placed it on a 28 gallon tank for 2 months as a quarantine but not long term

 

[tang4me]

Originally Posted by Bigmick88
http:///forum/post/3089354
Ok, first let me start of by saying, I'm not looking to start a war. I know on all forums, tangs are a TOUCHY subject. But here is my question. The owners of my LFS know everything there is to know about saltwater. In fact, they only do saltwater and reefs, they are pretty much experts. They insist that I could put a very small blue hippo tang in my 29 gallon biocube and it would be fine and happy. (the hippo is my favorite fish) All the workers there agree that he will outgrow the tank eventually, however, that will take a few years and then I can trade him in for alot of store credit. Anyways, they would never stear me wrong or give me wrong advice, and they even guarantee the fish for the life of it as long as my water is spot on and as long as I trade him in when they feel he is too big. (this LFS is great, they'll even come to my house to do favors and check my water) I'm just wondering what your opinions are on this without getting all tang crazy? If you feel the urge to flame, just push back on your browser, Thank you very much for any help
If it's a quarter size or smaller I wouldn't try it. Those fish that size just don't do well. You might get lucky, but they have high mortality rates. How much are they charging for it?