How long can Bang hold out...?

t316

t316

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I noticed my male Bangaii with a mouth full of eggs on Sept. 21.
I researched on here, and read where they would spit out anywhere from 12 to 21 days. So he's pushing day 23, and he's still got a mouth full. When he cracks his mouth, they still look like eggs, not fish. Any help....
 
jellyman1213

jellyman1213

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My bangaii breed regularly and the holding period is always 23-25 days unless the eggs are bad. Do the eggs look an orangish color??
 
bang guy

bang guy

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I can hold out for a looooong time.

The record for my Banggai so far has been 28 days. Water temperature seems to be the deciding factor.
 
t316

t316

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Thanks jellyman & bang. Yes, I believe they are a reddish/orange color, but it's getting harder to see. He has become more protective and hangs out more in the shade, under ledges and so forth. When I come near the glass, he turns his mouth away from me. But I know he's still holding, I can see his jaws and his mouth is cracked slightly open.
Maybe I misread before, but I thought some people were talking about 12 to 21 days. Sounds like now, maybe this is normal.
 
t316

t316

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Oh yeah, temp is a steady 80. System is on a chiller. I don't know what prime "bang breeding temp" is, but I'm not fluctuating very much at all.
 
t316

t316

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2794866
I can hold out for a looooong time.

The record for my Banggai so far has been 28 days. Water temperature seems to be the deciding factor.
I think your record might be in jeapardy.
It's day 25.....
 
calaxa

calaxa

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Not sure where you were reading 12-21 days. Most of what I have seen said that broods are at least 3 weeks with an average of 25 days. It can also release them over the course of several days. They also say that the banggai is not in danger of eating the fry immediately after release so you don't have to rush to seperate though probably a good idea. Good luck and keep us posted to their development. I've been looking to replace my cards for awhile but seems all the LFS here are adhering to the boycott. Can't find any aquacultured ones either.
 
t316

t316

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Day 26.....

He's still as cool as a cucumber. I can see that they are not "eggs" now. I can clearly see some baby polka dots wiggling around in his mouth. I'm getting excited. Maybe time to pickup a cigar?
 
novahobbies

novahobbies

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Originally Posted by T316
http:///forum/post/2797309
Day 26.....

He's still as cool as a cucumber. I can see that they are not "eggs" now. I can clearly see some baby polka dots wiggling around in his mouth. I'm getting excited. Maybe time to pickup a cigar?

 
t316

t316

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2799129
Well?

Still holding when I left home this morning. I can see them moving all around in there, and his mouth & gills are stretched pretty good. If he doesn't spit them out, I guess they will just swim out on their own sooner or later.
I'm not set up to raise these this time, so if they come out while I'm not there I'm sure they will be eaten. But if I were to see them, could I catch them and put them in the sump until they got bigger?
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally Posted by T316
http:///forum/post/2799153
Still holding when I left home this morning. I can see them moving all around in there, and his mouth & gills are stretched pretty good. If he doesn't spit them out, I guess they will just swim out on their own sooner or later.
I'm not set up to raise these this time, so if they come out while I'm not there I'm sure they will be eaten. But if I were to see them, could I catch them and put them in the sump until they got bigger?


Baby Banggai are food for just about every omnivore, even Cleaner Shrimp.
If you can catch the male tonight he will most likely spit out the babies right away from the stress of being caught. Do it after dark so he's asleep when you try to catch him or he'll spit them out before you can catch him.
I have good luck feeding Shrimp eggs right away. You can also mince Mysis Shrimp or any othe meaty seafood. I have also had good luck with ground up dried Cyclop-Eeze that has been soaked in fish oil or Selcon.
A sump sounds like a dangerous place for them. Do you have a small tank or a breeder net?
 
t316

t316

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2799183
Baby Banggai are food for just about every omnivore, even Cleaner Shrimp.
If you can catch the male tonight he will most likely spit out the babies right away from the stress of being caught. Do it after dark so he's asleep when you try to catch him or he'll spit them out before you can catch him.
I have good luck feeding Shrimp eggs right away. You can also mince Mysis Shrimp or any othe meaty seafood. I have also had good luck with ground up dried Cyclop-Eeze that has been soaked in fish oil or Selcon.
A sump sounds like a dangerous place for them. Do you have a small tank or a breeder net?
Well, there's no other critters in the sump, it's very clean. But I would have to use some netting or something to keep them from going over to the area where the return outlet is. I don't have a breeder net, but I'm going by a lfs today so I'll check on that.
 
t316

t316

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The only thing that concerns me about the breeder net being in the DT, is that the DT is a 280 with A LOT of flow going on. Unless I can find a spot around some rocks, these little guys would still be blowing around inside the net.
 
calaxa

calaxa

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Originally Posted by morval
http:///forum/post/2799334
this fish is an endangerd species and many LFS will not sell it anymore unless they are tankraised more info here: http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/63572
Thanks for digging up the info. I never got around to reposting on this thread about the boycott.
I wouldn't say it's because LFS won't sell. It's cause suppliers just don't have. I would get a tank raised one but they are puny and would get clobbered by some of more aggressive inhabitants plus they cost so much more. I think I'll just do without. They never did much in my tank except stay motionless in the water column.
 
t316

t316

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I'm not questioning their decreasing #'s in the wild, just their availability to us hobbyist. They might be tank-raised, but they are all over the place around here. Iv'e been in some lfs's and seen tanks with nearly a hundred in there for sale. It's one of the few species that (at least around here) you can almost guarantee that the lfs will have in stock.
Bang, I went to the lfs this morning to look at a breeder net. He didn't have any, but I did walk away with $200 less in my pocket. Of the notables, I got an Elegance.
 
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