How would you handle it?

reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2550207
I"m sorry, but once a dog that has the power to kill someone with one bite actually bites someone, its life no longer matters.
The guy that lives behind me has a pit that was outside in its yard on Sunday when my wife and I were working in our yard. Anytime either me or my wife got within 20 feet of the fence this monster went berserk and tried to bite its way through the fence. Now, I am against people owning guns but I kid you not when I say that after the second time of that monster trying to eat its way through a wood fence to get at us I went in my house and got one of my swords from my collection. I was not about to risk by my wife's and my own life on the assumption that this was a well behaved dog. If it had made it into my yard I would have skewered it and thrown the body back over the fence without a single thought. And yes, I AM a dog lover. I just truly believe that this breed has no place in our society as a pet.
I am against people owning swords

Did you go speak to your neighbor about the agressive nature of his dog? Honestly if its biting at the chain link I would probably speak with animal control about it. That is dangerously agressive behavior. That dog could have been trained as a fighter at some point
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by trainfever
http:///forum/post/2550301
I didnt call there screaming. I called to see if they, the parents knew their dog had bitten my daughter. He said that he knew and that he didnt think it was a big deal and wanted to know what I wanted him to do. If it were my dog who had bitten another child, I would not have taken the word of my 11 year old daughter. I would have been on the phone or to the house myself to make sure the child was OK.
I have edited this post to add the picture. I never said or implied that the bite was life threatening although I hate to think what could have happened. Anyway, you cant tell from the pic but the bite is about 2- 2 1/2" wide and is fainly yellow and purple around it. The fact is that the dog did bite my daughter and broke the skin and my neighbor was irresponsible about it.
Anytime a dog bite breaks the skin it can be serious. The fact they didn't tell you means the "wound" wasn't kept clean.
In all honestly looking at the bite that might have been a case of the dog just playing. That is pretty mild to be an agressive type bite. HOWEVER that in no way excuses the irresponsible behavior of the neighbor. I would be a lot more angry with the neighbor than worried about the dog.
 
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dragonzim

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2551621
I am against people owning swords

Did you go speak to your neighbor about the agressive nature of his dog? Honestly if its biting at the chain link I would probably speak with animal control about it. That is dangerously agressive behavior. That dog could have been trained as a fighter at some point
I have not spoken to the neighbor about it. However, he was outside when his dog was doing this and from the fact that he did absolutely nothing to stop it I can safely assume that he couldnt care less if his dog gets out of his yard.
 
rudedog40

rudedog40

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2551621
I am against people owning swords

Did you go speak to your neighbor about the agressive nature of his dog? Honestly if its biting at the chain link I would probably speak with animal control about it. That is dangerously agressive behavior. That dog could have been trained as a fighter at some point
It's interesting that I have the exact scenario as Dragonzim, except mine is a Rottweiler. I can't even open my back door without this beast growling or barking at me. If I get anywhere near his fence, I hear the low growl, then the banging at the fence. An old lady owns him, and I mentioned to her once that he barks constantly, at all times of the day or night. Her response was, "He's just protecting his territory, live with it." I even put up one of those automatic high-pitched noise makers that emits an ear-piercing noise everytime he barks on my side of the fence. She knocked it down and broke it with a rake. I've told her that if that dog ever came through the fence into my yard to attack, she'd get it back in pieces. She of course said she'd call protective services on me for harming her dog. As crazy as that may sound, I could be held accountable for killing her dog if it simply came on my property. I would have to prove the dog attacked me or one of my family members before I could justify defending myself. They threw a guy in jail here for doing this. The authorties said you should just scare them away, that you have no right to harm the animal. Believe me, if he ever does come through that fence, he better be prepared to meet his maker..
 
al mc

al mc

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Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2552560
It's interesting that I have the exact scenario as Dragonzim, except mine is a Rottweiler. I can't even open my back door without this beast growling or barking at me. If I get anywhere near his fence, I hear the low growl, then the banging at the fence. An old lady owns him, and I mentioned to her once that he barks constantly, at all times of the day or night. Her response was, "He's just protecting his territory, live with it." I even put up one of those automatic high-pitched noise makers that emits an ear-piercing noise everytime he barks on my side of the fence. She knocked it down and broke it with a rake. I've told her that if that dog ever came through the fence into my yard to attack, she'd get it back in pieces. She of course said she'd call protective services on me for harming her dog. As crazy as that may sound, I could be held accountable for killing her dog if it simply came on my property. I would have to prove the dog attacked me or one of my family members before I could justify defending myself. They threw a guy in jail here for doing this. The authorties said you should just scare them away, that you have no right to harm the animal. Believe me, if he ever does come through that fence, he better be prepared to meet his maker..
Rudedog......IMHO best thing to do is put up the bark deter again and indicate to her that it is your property and if she breaks it you will call the cops. Also, local animal control can make some trouble for her as there are usually some 'codes' about baking dogs at certain times during the day...usually 11pm till 5am in many areas. Finally, if you can videotape the dog it will help you in court if that is what it comes to.....
Train was the original poster......There were many suggestions/opinions that he solicitited to try to help him with how to proceed with his situation, but no posts about what he did/plans to do.....What was the outcome?
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2552560
It's interesting that I have the exact scenario as Dragonzim, except mine is a Rottweiler. I can't even open my back door without this beast growling or barking at me. If I get anywhere near his fence, I hear the low growl, then the banging at the fence. An old lady owns him, and I mentioned to her once that he barks constantly, at all times of the day or night. Her response was, "He's just protecting his territory, live with it." I even put up one of those automatic high-pitched noise makers that emits an ear-piercing noise everytime he barks on my side of the fence. She knocked it down and broke it with a rake. I've told her that if that dog ever came through the fence into my yard to attack, she'd get it back in pieces. She of course said she'd call protective services on me for harming her dog. As crazy as that may sound, I could be held accountable for killing her dog if it simply came on my property. I would have to prove the dog attacked me or one of my family members before I could justify defending myself. They threw a guy in jail here for doing this. The authorties said you should just scare them away, that you have no right to harm the animal. Believe me, if he ever does come through that fence, he better be prepared to meet his maker..
Your first mistake was not calling the police when she vandalized your property. I'd put up another whistle just out of reach of her rake.
Your city will certainly have a barking dog ordinance. You tried to do the right thing and she went bichzilla on you, turn in the dog for barking.
I've had the harming the dog conversation with animal control in the past. The guy told me if it was a dog they knew to be agressive there would be no questions asked as long as it wasn't obvious that excessive force wqas used, as in sending it back to here in pieces (although I love the fact you told her that)
In that case the dog was repeatedly jumping a few fences to get into my mom's yard. The people who owned the dog had a friend at animal control that would tip them off every time we would call and they would beat animal control there to get their dog back. I finally told animal control to tell the people I would use a shovel to shoo him back next time. He said he would tell them but in this case they were familiar with the dog and knew it wasn't agressive so if I did nail the dog I had better have a bite or something to show I was in danger.
 
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kikithemermaid

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Report it to the police. The dog bit your daughter and the sleaze didn't care, that is not overreacting.
Also, I own a pit bull, a doberman, and a rottweiler. All rescue dogs. They all get bad reputations. In my three years as a veterinary technician I've only been bit by chihuahuas, labs, yorkies and akitas. Not a single report of a vicious bad rap dog. They need our help.
Anyway.
Definitely don't let this go. Best of luck, and I hope your daughter's friend's parents get some sense knocked into them.
 
rudedog40

rudedog40

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2552661
Your first mistake was not calling the police when she vandalized your property. I'd put up another whistle just out of reach of her rake.
Your city will certainly have a barking dog ordinance. You tried to do the right thing and she went bichzilla on you, turn in the dog for barking.
I've had the harming the dog conversation with animal control in the past. The guy told me if it was a dog they knew to be agressive there would be no questions asked as long as it wasn't obvious that excessive force wqas used, as in sending it back to here in pieces (although I love the fact you told her that)
In that case the dog was repeatedly jumping a few fences to get into my mom's yard. The people who owned the dog had a friend at animal control that would tip them off every time we would call and they would beat animal control there to get their dog back. I finally told animal control to tell the people I would use a shovel to shoo him back next time. He said he would tell them but in this case they were familiar with the dog and knew it wasn't agressive so if I did nail the dog I had better have a bite or something to show I was in danger.
I have a freind who is a policemen. When it happened, I mentioned it to him. He told me unless you have physical proof she broke it, there's nothing the cops could do. I paid less than $40 for the thing, and it would cost me more than that to take her to small claims.
Our city has tightened the dog annoyance and agressive laws here. We've had at least 10 dog attacks (mostly pit bull-type dogs) in the last year. Two of them were fatalities with children. Because of that, a 'no tolerance' law has gone into effect. She must be reading the stories in the paper, because the last few days when I walk into my backyard and hear the dog start barking, I hear her open her sliding back door and take the dog inside. If I call in a noise complaint, someone in the city will peridoically come by and verify if in fact the dog is barking. If so, she gets an automatic $50 fine. More than three calls, the animal gets removed from the premises.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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I don't think you are overreacting at all, these neighbors did not take the proper precautions to alleviate the risk associated with owning this particular dog. Then didn't care when there was an incident. Basically in my mind this makes them an irresponsible owner. You need to call the police, document the attack, get your other neighbor who doesn't like the dog to corrolate your story and address any other circumstances where he has had problems with the dog.
I don't blame you one bit for being furious, your daughter was attacked by your nieghbors dog.
But that being said, I've seen some beautiful sweet kind pit bulls.
 
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capschamp

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its been said many times, report it and report it and report it. My pug was attacked while my dad was taking her for a walk. The neighbors rot-mix got out of their fenced in yard, came out to my dog which was on a leash that my dad was holding, growled at my dog then clamped its jaws around mydogs shoulders and picked her up, puncturing my dogs skin on each side of her body. the rot-mix's owner came out, punched and kicked his dog, still didnt drop my dog. he tried prying his dogs jaws open, and my dog gave him a bite on the hand, and he tried saying my dog attacked him, while his dog still had my dog in its mouth! Long story short, called the cops, called the dog warden, 2 weeks later he claimed the dog was living somewhere else. I never saw that dog again, or the 80 bucks i had to pay the vet to check my dog out, that my neighbor said he would repay. Karma is a B*
h though, he lost his job a few months ago and his wife left him, and he had to move out of the house he was renting, now i dont have to see the douchebag
 
durag14

durag14

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sry but i must put in my word i have raised many pits and rotties and never have i had 1 that was mean its in how u train your dog i curently own a pittbull he is 6yo and 2 rottis they are 8mo but i also have a bout 3 lil kids at my house at all dif times and i have cats all are fine and well so plz donttake it out on an entier bread that would be like saying now i dont feel this way but thish is what your saying is ok to say for
ex. if u said that a white or black or any other color person was a drug dealer than that would be like saying every one that color dose the same
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by durag14
http:///forum/post/2558700
sry but i must put in my word i have raised many pits and rotties and never have i had 1 that was mean its in how u train your dog i curently own a pittbull he is 6yo and 2 rottis they are 8mo but i also have a bout 3 lil kids at my house at all dif times and i have cats all are fine and well so plz donttake it out on an entier bread that would be like saying now i dont feel this way but thish is what your saying is ok to say for
ex. if u said that a white or black or any other color person was a drug dealer than that would be like saying every one that color dose the same
Zactly.
Big dogs are a larger responsibility. Pits, by nature are a people friendly dog. I wold never own one that I didn't have by the time it was a few months old or was personally aquainted with the previous owner to insure it had never been trained as a fighter.
 
agent-x

agent-x

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I think that the dog bite should be reported to someone, just don't let it go because next time someone could really get hurt. Now that said I think I've defended "pits" many times on this forum and any mid to large size dog could do real harm to a child or even an adult for that matter. You should never leave your child with a dog that you know nothing about. How old is this dog, puppy or adult. Because if it's a puppy their teeth can puncture skill really easily and the "bite" could have been just playing. Not saying that's the case, but I'd like to know more.
As for the father of the girl who got bit. If you were concerned about this dog from the start why do you let you daughter go over to their house. Even if they say they are going to put the dog up. If you were already questioning their parental skills, should you really be letting your child go over there?
 
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kikithemermaid

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Originally Posted by durag14
http:///forum/post/2558700
sry but i must put in my word i have raised many pits and rotties and never have i had 1 that was mean its in how u train your dog

I completely agree.

I worked as a veterinary technician for years and this is SO true.

Anyway. I hope everything worked out for this guy! Any news?
 
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