How would you handle it?
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m0nk
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Originally Posted by SteelGluer
http:///forum/post/2550144
Im in pa if a dog bites no matter where it is in house outside on leash or off owner is at fault. Report it. The dog must be quarantined.
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/Pennsylvania.html
This is one of those times (rare as they are) that I'm proud to live in PA. My neighbor has 2 rots. They're nice as can be, but they're big. He definitely does keep them under control and they're well behaved and trained, so I have no major worries about the possibility of attacks, but it is nice to know that should something go wrong, the state is looking out for it's people.
That said, I think you should have reported it ASAP because of the chance that it has happened before and could happen again to someone else. The authorities can decide whether the dog needs taken out of that environment. Also, had there been more serious after-affects of the bite, you then would have just cause to collect damages to compensate for doctor's or hospital visits. Not just that, but also for the points made previously by others, that if they claimed they'd keep the dog under control (in the basement, or wherever) when your daughter is around, it shows a lack of control that the dog was able to bite like this and it could pose a danger to others in the future.
Also, I do believe, as a parent, that you too need to play a more active role in keeping your child out of harms way when it comes to the dog. If you didn't want your daughter around the dog, you shouldn't trust that your neighbor would have absolute respect for your wishes. After all, they obviously feel it's safe enough to be around their own daughter, why would your daughter be any less safe in their minds?
http:///forum/post/2550144
Im in pa if a dog bites no matter where it is in house outside on leash or off owner is at fault. Report it. The dog must be quarantined.
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/Pennsylvania.html
This is one of those times (rare as they are) that I'm proud to live in PA. My neighbor has 2 rots. They're nice as can be, but they're big. He definitely does keep them under control and they're well behaved and trained, so I have no major worries about the possibility of attacks, but it is nice to know that should something go wrong, the state is looking out for it's people.
That said, I think you should have reported it ASAP because of the chance that it has happened before and could happen again to someone else. The authorities can decide whether the dog needs taken out of that environment. Also, had there been more serious after-affects of the bite, you then would have just cause to collect damages to compensate for doctor's or hospital visits. Not just that, but also for the points made previously by others, that if they claimed they'd keep the dog under control (in the basement, or wherever) when your daughter is around, it shows a lack of control that the dog was able to bite like this and it could pose a danger to others in the future.
Also, I do believe, as a parent, that you too need to play a more active role in keeping your child out of harms way when it comes to the dog. If you didn't want your daughter around the dog, you shouldn't trust that your neighbor would have absolute respect for your wishes. After all, they obviously feel it's safe enough to be around their own daughter, why would your daughter be any less safe in their minds?
crashbandicoot
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Originally Posted by trainfever
http:///forum/post/2550164
Once again, another poster not reading my words. I never said anything about poisoning the dog or hitting my neighbor. As I said before, it was my neighbors nonchalant attitude about my daughter being bitten that aggravated me. The reason my daughter hid the bite from me is because she knew I would be upset about her being bitten. I also explained to her that it was not her fault she was bitten and that she should not have hid it from me. She is a very shy and timid person and gets upsets if anyone raises their voice.
I am not an angry or violent person but I do not or will not gamble with my daughters safety. I also did not come here to incite any riot. I clearly stated in my post that I didnt want to go back and forth about whether pittbulls are good or bad. The question I wanted to know is whether I was being irrationable about my neighbors lack of responsibilty and nonchalant attitude. Those of you who are blaming me fail to realize that my daughter was not in the house, she was outside waiting for the little girl.
No I did read your words . I was encouraging you not to follow the advice of what others had posted about posioning the dog or punching the neighbor .I advised you to TALK to the neighbor like an ADULT.
http:///forum/post/2550164
Once again, another poster not reading my words. I never said anything about poisoning the dog or hitting my neighbor. As I said before, it was my neighbors nonchalant attitude about my daughter being bitten that aggravated me. The reason my daughter hid the bite from me is because she knew I would be upset about her being bitten. I also explained to her that it was not her fault she was bitten and that she should not have hid it from me. She is a very shy and timid person and gets upsets if anyone raises their voice.
I am not an angry or violent person but I do not or will not gamble with my daughters safety. I also did not come here to incite any riot. I clearly stated in my post that I didnt want to go back and forth about whether pittbulls are good or bad. The question I wanted to know is whether I was being irrationable about my neighbors lack of responsibilty and nonchalant attitude. Those of you who are blaming me fail to realize that my daughter was not in the house, she was outside waiting for the little girl.
No I did read your words . I was encouraging you not to follow the advice of what others had posted about posioning the dog or punching the neighbor .I advised you to TALK to the neighbor like an ADULT.
trainfever
Active Member
How many times do I have to say this? I did call my neighbor about the situation. It was his carelessness and nonchallant attitude the pissed me off. I simply called their house to see if they knew about my dog being bitten by their dog. When he said yeas and then asked what I wanted him to do, that is what really angered me.
Originally Posted by nina&noah
http:///forum/post/2550178
I was simply stating that the life of the dog matters also. You just want people to jump on your bandwagon and tell you that you are right. Your not right.
I"m sorry, but once a dog that has the power to kill someone with one bite actually bites someone, its life no longer matters.
The guy that lives behind me has a pit that was outside in its yard on Sunday when my wife and I were working in our yard. Anytime either me or my wife got within 20 feet of the fence this monster went berserk and tried to bite its way through the fence. Now, I am against people owning guns but I kid you not when I say that after the second time of that monster trying to eat its way through a wood fence to get at us I went in my house and got one of my swords from my collection. I was not about to risk by my wife's and my own life on the assumption that this was a well behaved dog. If it had made it into my yard I would have skewered it and thrown the body back over the fence without a single thought. And yes, I AM a dog lover. I just truly believe that this breed has no place in our society as a pet.
http:///forum/post/2550178
I was simply stating that the life of the dog matters also. You just want people to jump on your bandwagon and tell you that you are right. Your not right.
I"m sorry, but once a dog that has the power to kill someone with one bite actually bites someone, its life no longer matters.
The guy that lives behind me has a pit that was outside in its yard on Sunday when my wife and I were working in our yard. Anytime either me or my wife got within 20 feet of the fence this monster went berserk and tried to bite its way through the fence. Now, I am against people owning guns but I kid you not when I say that after the second time of that monster trying to eat its way through a wood fence to get at us I went in my house and got one of my swords from my collection. I was not about to risk by my wife's and my own life on the assumption that this was a well behaved dog. If it had made it into my yard I would have skewered it and thrown the body back over the fence without a single thought. And yes, I AM a dog lover. I just truly believe that this breed has no place in our society as a pet.
crashbandicoot
Active Member
Why don't you show us a picture of the bite ? So we can see how bad it is . That would help a lot in determining if his non chelant attitude was just or if you have a reason to be angry .
Because honestly in my opinion if an 11 year old can take it and hide it then it doesn't seam like it would be that bad . Now if its super bad and the dogs owner had to administer first aid then I can understand being upset you were not notified .
Because honestly in my opinion if an 11 year old can take it and hide it then it doesn't seam like it would be that bad . Now if its super bad and the dogs owner had to administer first aid then I can understand being upset you were not notified .
shogun323
Active Member
Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2550207
I"m sorry, but once a dog that has the power to kill someone with one bite actually bites someone, its life no longer matters.
The guy that lives behind me has a pit that was outside in its yard on Sunday when my wife and I were working in our yard. Anytime either me or my wife got within 20 feet of the fence this monster went berserk and tried to bite its way through the fence. Now, I am against people owning guns but I kid you not when I say that after the second time of that monster trying to eat its way through a wood fence to get at us I went in my house and got one of my swords from my collection. I was not about to risk by my wife's and my own life on the assumption that this was a well behaved dog. If it had made it into my yard I would have skewered it and thrown the body back over the fence without a single thought. And yes, I AM a dog lover. I just truly believe that this breed has no place in our society as a pet.
The mental image of ya standing and the backyard weilding a big ole Claymore has just made my day!!!
http:///forum/post/2550207
I"m sorry, but once a dog that has the power to kill someone with one bite actually bites someone, its life no longer matters.
The guy that lives behind me has a pit that was outside in its yard on Sunday when my wife and I were working in our yard. Anytime either me or my wife got within 20 feet of the fence this monster went berserk and tried to bite its way through the fence. Now, I am against people owning guns but I kid you not when I say that after the second time of that monster trying to eat its way through a wood fence to get at us I went in my house and got one of my swords from my collection. I was not about to risk by my wife's and my own life on the assumption that this was a well behaved dog. If it had made it into my yard I would have skewered it and thrown the body back over the fence without a single thought. And yes, I AM a dog lover. I just truly believe that this breed has no place in our society as a pet.
The mental image of ya standing and the backyard weilding a big ole Claymore has just made my day!!!
Originally Posted by shogun323
http:///forum/post/2550222
The mental image of ya standing and the backyard weilding a big ole Claymore has just made my day!!!
LOL, actually it was a reproduction of a 14th century English sword. Single handed, light and easy to maneuver. Claymore's were pretty much used in displays for the most part. They were more for show than anything else since they are really heavy for a sword., although their primary use when they were designed was to take out the legs of charging horses.
http:///forum/post/2550222
The mental image of ya standing and the backyard weilding a big ole Claymore has just made my day!!!
LOL, actually it was a reproduction of a 14th century English sword. Single handed, light and easy to maneuver. Claymore's were pretty much used in displays for the most part. They were more for show than anything else since they are really heavy for a sword., although their primary use when they were designed was to take out the legs of charging horses.
tj51
Member
Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2550220
Why don't you show us a picture of the bite ? So we can see how bad it is . That would help a lot in determining if his non chelant attitude was just or if you have a reason to be angry .
Because honestly in my opinion if an 11 year old can take it and hide it then it doesn't seam like it would be that bad . Now if its super bad and the dogs owner had to administer first aid then I can understand being upset you were not notified .
No that's not right either Crash I agreed with most of what you have said but you are off base here. If my child was bitten it is not up to us to decide the severity of the bite. If it had been my kid I wouldn't care if people thought it was a bad bite or not, it would be my call. If some idiot runs into my car as the result of doing something dumb and only does a little damage and is non-chalant, do I not have the right to be pissed?
http:///forum/post/2550220
Why don't you show us a picture of the bite ? So we can see how bad it is . That would help a lot in determining if his non chelant attitude was just or if you have a reason to be angry .
Because honestly in my opinion if an 11 year old can take it and hide it then it doesn't seam like it would be that bad . Now if its super bad and the dogs owner had to administer first aid then I can understand being upset you were not notified .
No that's not right either Crash I agreed with most of what you have said but you are off base here. If my child was bitten it is not up to us to decide the severity of the bite. If it had been my kid I wouldn't care if people thought it was a bad bite or not, it would be my call. If some idiot runs into my car as the result of doing something dumb and only does a little damage and is non-chalant, do I not have the right to be pissed?
shogun323
Active Member
Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2550232
LOL, actually it was a reproduction of a 14th century English sword. Single handed, light and easy to maneuver. Claymore's were pretty much used in displays for the most part. They were more for show than anything else since they are really heavy for a sword., although their primary use when they were designed was to take out the legs of charging horses.
Awesome. You should start a thread of your collection. I would love to see it!!!
http:///forum/post/2550232
LOL, actually it was a reproduction of a 14th century English sword. Single handed, light and easy to maneuver. Claymore's were pretty much used in displays for the most part. They were more for show than anything else since they are really heavy for a sword., although their primary use when they were designed was to take out the legs of charging horses.
Awesome. You should start a thread of your collection. I would love to see it!!!
Originally Posted by shogun323
http:///forum/post/2550246
Awesome. You should start a thread of your collection. I would love to see it!!!
I"ll get some pics over the weekend
http:///forum/post/2550246
Awesome. You should start a thread of your collection. I would love to see it!!!
I"ll get some pics over the weekend
spanko
Active Member
Even though the incident is two days old:
I would report it to the animal control and police.
I would take the girl to the doctor for clean up and a tetanus shot.
I would not let my daughter go to that house again as long as that dog is still there.
I would explain to my neighbor that the two girls friendship is important but that your daughter will no longer be going there to play and that his daughter is more than welcome to come to your house.
I would report it to the animal control and police.
I would take the girl to the doctor for clean up and a tetanus shot.
I would not let my daughter go to that house again as long as that dog is still there.
I would explain to my neighbor that the two girls friendship is important but that your daughter will no longer be going there to play and that his daughter is more than welcome to come to your house.
crashbandicoot
Active Member
Originally Posted by tj51
http:///forum/post/2550235
No that's not right either Crash I agreed with most of what you have said but you are off base here. If my child was bitten it is not up to us to decide the severity of the bite. If it had been my kid I wouldn't care if people thought it was a bad bite or not, it would be my call. If some idiot runs into my car as the result of doing something dumb and only does a little damage and is non-chalant, do I not have the right to be pissed?
Here is the deal . Say I am in the dog owners position and it "bites" the little girl but its just a little scratch . This guy calls up screaming and acting a fool I say ok will what is it exactly you want ? does that mean I am non chelant or just not willing to scream and yell ?
Now say same situation . I am the dog owner and my dog has just Bite this little girl and blood is all over the place . He calls and is scream his head off . I say well what do you want me to do ? That is being nonchlant about it .
He asked if he was over reacting ? Honestly in my opinion any time you have to resort to cursing than your over reacting and you need to calm down and remember to be an adult . Any time you feel the need to raise your voice your over reacting .
Now should he beg for an appolage ? NO . The owner should have called and made an atempt . But two wrongs don't make a right .
http:///forum/post/2550235
No that's not right either Crash I agreed with most of what you have said but you are off base here. If my child was bitten it is not up to us to decide the severity of the bite. If it had been my kid I wouldn't care if people thought it was a bad bite or not, it would be my call. If some idiot runs into my car as the result of doing something dumb and only does a little damage and is non-chalant, do I not have the right to be pissed?
Here is the deal . Say I am in the dog owners position and it "bites" the little girl but its just a little scratch . This guy calls up screaming and acting a fool I say ok will what is it exactly you want ? does that mean I am non chelant or just not willing to scream and yell ?
Now say same situation . I am the dog owner and my dog has just Bite this little girl and blood is all over the place . He calls and is scream his head off . I say well what do you want me to do ? That is being nonchlant about it .
He asked if he was over reacting ? Honestly in my opinion any time you have to resort to cursing than your over reacting and you need to calm down and remember to be an adult . Any time you feel the need to raise your voice your over reacting .
Now should he beg for an appolage ? NO . The owner should have called and made an atempt . But two wrongs don't make a right .
crashbandicoot
Active Member
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/2550256
Even though the incident is two days old:
I would report it to the animal control and police.
I would take the girl to the doctor for clean up and a tetanus shot.
I would not let my daughter go to that house again as long as that dog is still there.
I would explain to my neighbor that the two girls friendship is important but that your daughter will no longer be going there to play and that his daughter is more than welcome to come to your house.
Very good resolution to the situation .
http:///forum/post/2550256
Even though the incident is two days old:
I would report it to the animal control and police.
I would take the girl to the doctor for clean up and a tetanus shot.
I would not let my daughter go to that house again as long as that dog is still there.
I would explain to my neighbor that the two girls friendship is important but that your daughter will no longer be going there to play and that his daughter is more than welcome to come to your house.
Very good resolution to the situation .
alyssia
Active Member
Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2550207
I"m sorry, but once a dog that has the power to kill someone with one bite actually bites someone, its life no longer matters.
http:///forum/post/2550207
I"m sorry, but once a dog that has the power to kill someone with one bite actually bites someone, its life no longer matters.
shogun323
Active Member
Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2550258
Here is the deal . Say I am in the dog owners position and it "bites" the little girl but its just a little scratch . This guy calls up screaming and acting a fool I say ok will what is it exactly you want ? does that mean I am non chelant or just not willing to scream and yell ?
Now say same situation . I am the dog owner and my dog has just Bite this little girl and blood is all over the place . He calls and is scream his head off . I say well what do you want me to do ? That is being nonchlant about it .
He asked if he was over reacting ? Honestly in my opinion any time you have to resort to cursing than your over reacting and you need to calm down and remember to be an adult . Any time you feel the need to raise your voice your over reacting .
Now should he beg for an appolage ? NO . The owner should have called and made an atempt . But two wrongs don't make a right .
Honestly broski, I think you are reading a bit too deep into the situation. We don't know Trainfever or the neighbor. We don't know the tones of voice used or other mitigating factors.
http:///forum/post/2550258
Here is the deal . Say I am in the dog owners position and it "bites" the little girl but its just a little scratch . This guy calls up screaming and acting a fool I say ok will what is it exactly you want ? does that mean I am non chelant or just not willing to scream and yell ?
Now say same situation . I am the dog owner and my dog has just Bite this little girl and blood is all over the place . He calls and is scream his head off . I say well what do you want me to do ? That is being nonchlant about it .
He asked if he was over reacting ? Honestly in my opinion any time you have to resort to cursing than your over reacting and you need to calm down and remember to be an adult . Any time you feel the need to raise your voice your over reacting .
Now should he beg for an appolage ? NO . The owner should have called and made an atempt . But two wrongs don't make a right .
Honestly broski, I think you are reading a bit too deep into the situation. We don't know Trainfever or the neighbor. We don't know the tones of voice used or other mitigating factors.
digitydash
Active Member
I own a pitbulls and I have never had anyproblem with them biting people.I am going to say the dog was playing.If this dog was to bit your daughter in rage she would of got more then that if you ask me,I am not condoning it im just saying.Also just cause she didn't provoke him this time don't mean she hasn't.I had some kid in the neighborhood I caught throwing rock at my dogs in the back yard needless to say everytime those kid walk by my house she charges the fence.Dogs have good memory.Also any dog that has not grown up around people will be aggressive toward anyone.Like being caged up/locked in a room while company is around.It is basiclly how you raise them.Your neighbor sounds like a real A-hole though I must say.Easy way to solve your problem though if she want to play with her friend have them come over and not her over their house period
crashbandicoot
Active Member
Originally Posted by shogun323
http:///forum/post/2550276
Honestly broski, I think you are reading a bit too deep into the situation. We don't know Trainfever or the neighbor. We don't know the tones of voice used or other mitigating factors.
I agree with you there shogun . I am just going off of the vibe I am getting from his post about the situation .
But anyways Have you seen the updated pics of the mantis digs ? Its coming together nicely . sorry to hijack .
http:///forum/post/2550276
Honestly broski, I think you are reading a bit too deep into the situation. We don't know Trainfever or the neighbor. We don't know the tones of voice used or other mitigating factors.
I agree with you there shogun . I am just going off of the vibe I am getting from his post about the situation .
But anyways Have you seen the updated pics of the mantis digs ? Its coming together nicely . sorry to hijack .