Howard stern

cindyski

Active Member

Originally posted by KittyKitty
I hate Howard Stern. I hope I never have to hear anything about him ever again.

couldnt have said it better myself!
 

tony detroit

Active Member
There is one thing far worse than Howard Stern:
The 70+ year old lady on the Oxygen Network after 9p.m. playing with --- toys, talking to couples with genital warts and anal leakage......why can't the FCC take her off....Pretty Please....
 
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lockemup

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IMHO, I think Howard Stern's best days are behind him. We had a host in Tampa going by Bubba the Love Sponge. He went from syndicated to unemployed within 30 days of the FCC going after Clear CHannel Communications Network. Bubba was a jerk anyway. He treated people like crap and his audience was mainly uneducated, unemployed drug abusing white males between 25-35 who still live with their parents. Some public figure huh???
Flame on...
 
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daniel411

Guest

Originally posted by maverick005
you can rid YOUR world of those things like TV but you cant rid the rest of the world. so when your kids go to school they still get all the "bad" things from the other children because they got it from their TV. so now you are home schooling...talk about sheltered.

Interestingly put. Would you "shelter" your child from a hurricane and let him learn about them in other ways. Or would you place them on the beach as it approaches, by themselves?
 

jlem

Active Member

Originally posted by Purity
1:
"hey dad, what's cocaine?"
"it's a drug that's very bad. stay away from that crap because it'll screw up your life. people hurt eachother on it. if you ever see your friends doing this then STAY AWAY from it. trust your father on this."
2:
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But dad everyone on tv and on the radio think it's cool. The kids at school talk about it all the time. Common dad you are just old and everybody jokes about it.
Strike one for dad.
 

jlem

Active Member

Originally posted by ThankGod4Fish
What a crock. If its not Howard it'll be someone or something else. Face it.

But you have to start somewhere and eventually people will get the hint that the not responsable card is not going to work. We are loosing the war on drugs but you can't just not care because drugs ( which are glorified on TV and Radio ) will always be there. I think that shows like Howard stern have a place on cable where parents can control what their kids watch. The radio should be decent since anybody however old can turn it on. I remember how sneaky I was as a kid and no parent can keep an eye on their kids 24 hours a day.
 

tyr-sog

Member
Howard was pulled of Clear Channel for one simple reason. He can sway the election with his 18 million listeners. It has nothing to so what was said on the air.
Clear Channels CEO MR. Hogan is in bed with the Bush administration and yanked Howard because like so many of us he finally sees what a nut job our president is and spoke out openly about it.
My current govenrments politics scares me more then any terrorist organization could ever.
Vote Bush out.
Former Bush supporter
Tyr-Sog.
 

skirrby

Active Member

Originally posted by Tyr-Sog
Howard was pulled of Clear Channel for one simple reason. He can sway the election with his 18 million listeners. It has nothing to so what was said on the air.
Clear Channels CEO MR. Hogan is in bed with the Bush administration and yanked Howard because like so many of us he finally sees what a nut job our president is and spoke out openly about it.
My current govenrments politics scares me more then any terrorist organization could ever.
Vote Bush out.
Former Bush supporter
Tyr-Sog.


i fully agree
 

tony detroit

Active Member
I agree too.
Tyr-Sog there is a simple answer to all the "funny things" that have been going on-
Bush and all his buddies are leaving with hundreds of millions of dollars.
 

Originally posted by jlem
But you have to start somewhere and eventually people will get the hint that the not responsable card is not going to work. We are loosing the war on drugs but you can't just not care because drugs ( which are glorified on TV and Radio ) will always be there. I think that shows like Howard stern have a place on cable where parents can control what their kids watch. The radio should be decent since anybody however old can turn it on. I remember how sneaky I was as a kid and no parent can keep an eye on their kids 24 hours a day.

stupid as it sounds, Sterns been on for many years and I have yet to meet one person that turned out "indecent" just because of him. It's ridiculous... it's a radio show.. you do your best to avoid it if you don't like it and if your kid happens to stumble one it one day, you change it.. Deal with it then. Kids do these things. I can think of plenty of times where I consumed lots WAYYY indecent media when I was younger... much more indecent than Stern...and you know what? I'm holding down a good job, I'm providing for my family and I consider myself to be overall stable and grounded. Would I let my kid listen to it? No. Will I get riled up and ask that Stern be taken off the radio b/c I caught my kid listening to it? No way! At this point you talk to your child and make him understand why he can't listen to it. Will he sneakily try and listen to it again if he liked it? Probably. This is no different from what I used to do. Again, kids do these things. If your kid understands it's wrong but continues to do it and has to sneak around to get it done, then you know what? They know it's wrong. And that's the point. You can't censor everything. You can't put them in a bubble so as not to expose them to indecent things. You have to find a happy medium between the two.
You say you "have to start somewhere.." So does this mean that Howard should be the first of all indecent media to have the plug pulled on him? Should he be the only one pulled so as to make an example of him? If he is, then I got news for ya. The world wouldn't be that much of a better place. And if he was the first of many "indecent" shows to be cancelled... You would have millions... and I mean millions of people that can't listen or watch what they want to. What country do we live in again?
And about the war on drugs thing... On which the comments should end here, b/c that could be an entirely new thread in itself... Nobody said no one cared just because "drugs will always be there." Indifference isn't the idea. The idea is to ACKNOWLEDGE and ACCEPT that these things (drugs, indecent media, etc) will always be around... and handle accordingly.
Lockem, I agree with you... Stern's best days are
behind him... but that doesn't me people don't listen to him anymore.
 

tyr-sog

Member
The people whinning about Stern probably have no problem letting their kids watch all these garbage reality shows which promote lieing, cheating, backstabbing, etc. and everything else that is wrong in todays society.
 

fshhub

Active Member
This IS America AND I believe George Carlin said it best:
There are 2 nobs on the RAdio!!!! One of them...........
turns the radio offf and the other one Changes the station!
I personally don't care if my children were to listen to stern or not, just like me I was brought up to make my own decisions and given all of the options. Concerning drugs, media, friends, music AND religion. All the doors were opened for me to learn to make the right decisions. Admittedly I made a few wrong ones along the way but who has NOT? I learned from them and am a stronger better person. I work a good job, making 60k, in an area where 17k is about average, my wife makes 2/3s what I make. I dont see anything wrong with the way I turned out, overall. And as for howard, no we didn't listen to him when I was a kid, but the magazines I read and music I listend to and the shows and movies I watched were FAR FAR worse than anything anyone has complained about him doing.
 

jlem

Active Member

Originally posted by fshhub

I personally don't care if my children were to listen to stern or not, just like me I was brought up to make my own decisions and given all of the options. Concerning drugs, media, friends, music AND religion. All the doors were opened for me to learn to make the right decisions.

I wish I could just let my kids do what they want and not take any responsabilty, but I can't because It is my resonsability to tell my kids what is right and what is wrong. After all I am a parent.
Your key phrase was ( I personally don't care ) and that is the problem. No body cares enough to take the time or energy to raise their kids with values and that is sad. News flah, it is your job to care. 60K doesn't mean crap when it comes to raising kids.
 

fshhub

Active Member
My parents taught me morals, instead of dictatorship. Simple as that, and as I said I am doing far better than those that I graduated with who were forbidden to listen to certain musics and such. As well, my daughter is a senior in HS and an honor student, yet she can still take care of herself. I pity the guy/girl who doesnt understand what she means when she sayss NO. My not caring was directed towards the fact that it does not bother me what music she likes and who she(or any future children I have) listens to on the radio. NOT the fact of whether or not I care about her or how she turns out. This i care strongly about, I assure you)
She is also a devout christian, which I can assure you that she did not get from me, but from my giving her the facts and a choice and supporting her choice. She can say it is her choice and her faith, this is one thing that was not forced at her at all.
NOW AGAIN, here is a well known fact of radios. They do have 2 knobs(or at least 2 functions) If you dont like wha tis on, you have 2 choices. Turn the channel or turn it off. It is your choice and your decision if you want to hide it from your children. Just as it is my choice, as long as i still have the freedom to choose so(which wont be ling if everyone wants to keep taking away my options, AND my freedom to choose along with it).
Last time i thought about it, Freedom of choice meant the freedom to choose, NOT the freedom to choose the one option left that isn't offending someone. That would be like the church or government having an election and taking off all the politicians that they dont want you to hear, just because this one kissed a 16 yr old girl(even tho he was 17 at the time). orbecause another one got a tattoo when he was 19 and in the USMC.
I guess what I am trying to say is that after you take this away and that away, and we have only one option left then it is no longer a choice but a decision made by other people for you.
 

purity

Member

Originally posted by jlem
But dad everyone on tv and on the radio think it's cool. The kids at school talk about it all the time. Common dad you are just old and everybody jokes about it.
Strike one for dad.

yeah strike one if you're a weak parent who's kid never had much respect for you from the start. parent's like this DESERVE the first AND last strike because they allow television and radio to replace them as parents.
 
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daniel411

Guest

Originally posted by Tyr-Sog
Howard was pulled of Clear Channel for one simple reason. He can sway the election with his 18 million listeners. It has nothing to so what was said on the air.

-Clear Channel hasn't pulled Stern's syndication. He's still on the radio! It was just six stations of the hundreds that he's on with Clear Channel.
Clear Channels CEO MR. Hogan is in bed with the Bush administration and yanked Howard because like so many of us he finally sees what a nut job our president is and spoke out openly about it.

-Agree with that, it is a scary thing when the media and government are one. Just look at the media in russia.
My current govenrments politics scares me more then any terrorist organization could ever.

-Full agreement
Vote Bush out.
Former Bush supporter
Tyr-Sog.

-I couldn't vote for Bush the first time, voted independent. I was thrilled he beat Gore though. Sad thing is this election is just going to be a major exercise in damage control. Who is going to screw us the least... or atleast use....
Anyone ever hear the documentary "Wheat Receipts"? Its a pretty good listen, though extremely controversial, of our current government system.
 

blackomne

Member
How to win a government election change your name to micky mouse...
Ride in on name recognition.
AS for Censorship..
The founding fathers screwed up. Freedom is great!!!
But it comes with responsiblity and they failed there. By not listing a person's responsibles assocaited with those freedoms.
Freedom is never free; IF you think otherwise you need to wake up.
 
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daniel411

Guest

Originally posted by blackomne
The founding fathers screwed up. Freedom is great!!!
But it comes with responsiblity and they failed there. By not listing a person's responsibles assocaited with those freedoms.
Freedom is never free; IF you think otherwise you need to wake up.

Untrue. They did list the responsibilities of a citizen, of which were outlined in the federalist papers.
You're correct in that freedom doesn't come free. However if you're useing that as an endorsement of the current wars we're in. That is a facist reason for endorseing a war, not a responsible reason.
 

blackomne

Member
Untrue. They did list the responsibilities of a citizen, of which were outlined in the federalist papers.
You're correct in that freedom doesn't come free. However if you're useing that as an endorsement of the current wars we're in. That is a facist reason for endorseing a war, not a responsible reason.

True but I thought the Second Congressional congress abolished the federalist papers. Or was it simply altered and overwritten.
As for the second. I do not agree with being the police force of the planet. Hence, why I am not in the Military. I was referring to the fact that for each freedom there is a responsibility included.
Most fail to recognize the responsibility involved in each freedom and the need to balance the two.
 
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