How's that Arab Spring working out for you?

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/392921/hows-that-arab-spring-working-out-for-you/40#post_3492651
Didn't you hear about the Good Friday Accord? It was only like 14 years ago LOL! Like I said, it finally worked itself out. In 2004 the IRA finally announced it was using political methods to achieve their goals. Whatever their religious or political differences they are now all trying to resolve it the right way
Riiight. I go to Ireland on several occassions during the year. To this day, I'm weary and aware of my surroundings when I travel through Northern Ireland. Talk to the people up there, and they have a different perspective on the subject than you do.

 

[spanko]

My point was you referenced two factions in Ireland that have come to accords. I think there are too many in Iraq some of which are in real internal deadly fights to come to some conclusion of peace and a government that works for all. Added to the fact that it has been going on a lot longer than the strife in Ireland.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/392921/hows-that-arab-spring-working-out-for-you/60#post_3492670
Riiight. I go to Ireland on several occassions during the year. To this day, I'm weary and aware of my surroundings when I travel through Northern Ireland. Talk to the people up there, and they have a different perspective on the subject than you do.
Are they at war or are they using the political process?

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by spanko http:///t/392921/hows-that-arab-spring-working-out-for-you/60#post_3492674
My point was you referenced two factions in Ireland that have come to accords. I think there are too many in Iraq some of which are in real internal deadly fights to come to some conclusion of peace and a government that works for all. Added to the fact that it has been going on a lot longer than the strife in Ireland.
Yeah but in Iraq it mostly the two big Muslim faction causing all the crap. They have all that oil money coming in now that isn't going to build Saddam's palaces and stuff. I believe these people are going to figure out it's in their best interest to learn to live together as a country. A lot of the animosities are as much tribal as religious.

 

[darthtang aw]

Yeah but in Iraq it mostly the two big Muslim faction causing all the crap. They have all that oil money coming in now that isn't going to build Saddam's palaces and stuff. I believe these people are going to figure out it's in their best interest to learn to live together as a country. A lot of the animosities are as much tribal as religious.
It is primarily Tribal.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/392921/hows-that-arab-spring-working-out-for-you/60#post_3492677
Are they at war or are they using the political process?
Again, it depends who you talk to.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jul/26/ira-northern-ireland-dissident-republican-groups

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/392921/hows-that-arab-spring-working-out-for-you/60#post_3492702
Again, it depends who you talk to.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jul/26/ira-northern-ireland-dissident-republican-groups
And according to your article once unified the group will be comprised of several hundred members. We have many times that number of Anarchists in this country. They may not be as violent but they also do not speak for any significant amount of the population.

 

[darthtang aw]

And according to your article once unified the group will be comprised of several hundred members. We have many times that number of Anarchists in this country. They may not be as violent but they also do not speak for any significant amount of the population.
several hundred in a country of 4.5 million people. That is less than one tenth of one percent of the population.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/392921/hows-that-arab-spring-working-out-for-you/60#post_3492718
several hundred in a country of 4.5 million people. That is less than one tenth of one percent of the population
Where do you get 4.5 million? Northern Ireland is right around 1.8 million (which is irreleent to the discussion). The group in the article is just one of many. Take a vacation trip to Northern Ireland and find out for yourself. It would be an eye opener.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/392921/hows-that-arab-spring-working-out-for-you/60#post_3492776
Where do you get 4.5 million? Northern Ireland is right around 1.8 million (which is irreleent to the discussion). The group in the article is just one of many. Take a vacation trip to Northern Ireland and find out for yourself. It would be an eye opener.
The group in the article is claimed to be the coalition of all those who oppose the good Friday accord.

 

[reefraff]

Been watching the 0bamites out today claiming this whole blow up is the sole result of the video and not the 0ssiah's policies ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
If that were true and these people can be so riled up by a video that is no more insulting to Islam than what is said on a typical episode of Bill Mahr's show is to Christianity we need to amend the constitution to ban the islamic faith in this country and deport all Muslims LOL!.

 

[darthtang aw]

Where do you get 4.5 million?  Northern Ireland is right around 1.8 million (which is irreleent to the discussion).  The group in the article is just one of many.  Take a vacation trip to Northern Ireland and find out for yourself.  It would be an eye opener.
Did I say just northern Ireland? I said the country had that many people. Which means this "movement" is very small. I have been to Ireland I lived in Europe for 6 years. I didn't just visit. I stayed a while. Does that mean I know more than you about Europe? Using your logic, it does.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/392921/hows-that-arab-spring-working-out-for-you/60#post_3492781
Did I say just northern Ireland? I said the country had that many people. Which means this "movement" is very small. I have been to Ireland I lived in Europe for 6 years. I didn't just visit. I stayed a while. Does that mean I know more than you about Europe? Using your logic, it does.
If you've been to Ireland, then you know that Northern Ireland is essentially a country within itself. The southern portion of Ireland has a completely different aspect on this "religious war", and these "small movements" you think only exist aren't even apparent in that part of the country.
You may well know more than me about Europe. Never lived there, but I do spend some time there when a client requires my physical assistance. Not really sure what that has to do with the argument. I personally have family that lives in Waterford, Belfast, and Shannon, ergo why I visit quite often. I also have a customer who has operations in Dublin and Belfast. So I do get a more personal view on this subject than someone who has only "heard" what goes on in that country.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/392921/hows-that-arab-spring-working-out-for-you/60#post_3492778
Been watching the 0bamites out today claiming this whole blow up is the sole result of the video and not the 0ssiah's policies ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
If that were true and these people can be so riled up by a video that is no more insulting to Islam than what is said on a typical episode of Bill Mahr's show is to Christianity we need to amend the constitution to ban the islamic faith in this country and deport all Muslims LOL!.
They've already stated the majority of the violence occuring in that region had nothing to do with the video. Not sure which "Obamites" you're watching, but give Fox And Friends a couple of ays, and they'll start believing it.

 

[darthtang aw]

They've already stated the majority of the violence occuring in that region had nothing to do with the video.  Not sure which "Obamites" you're watching, but give Fox And Friends a couple of ays, and they'll start believing it.
The us ambassador to the u.n. for one.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/392921/hows-that-arab-spring-working-out-for-you/60#post_3492809
They've already stated the majority of the violence occuring in that region had nothing to do with the video. Not sure which "Obamites" you're watching, but give Fox And Friends a couple of ays, and they'll start believing it.
His official white house spokesman at the white house podium, UN secretary Rice, His campaign flunkies, take your pick. The video is nothing but a tool the islamists.