hypo treatment?
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noah's nemo
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al mc
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You can eliminate Ich from a fishless tank in one of three ways. Leave it fallow for 6 weeks, use hyposalinity on it (you will lose any inverts), or use copper (you will lose inverts and your nitrogen cycle and will not be able to keep inverts in the tank thereafter).
I would never suggest using copper in a DT reef tank.
If the DT is fishless. Leave it fallow for 6 weeks, then QT everything new that has a wet surface before placing it in your DT (fish, inverts, rock)
I would never suggest using copper in a DT reef tank.
If the DT is fishless. Leave it fallow for 6 weeks, then QT everything new that has a wet surface before placing it in your DT (fish, inverts, rock)
sepulatian
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Dont use any treatment in the display. Do you have a cycled quarantine tank? If not then be sure to cycle one fully before putting your fish in there. As mentioned, the only way to rid your tank of ich is to remove the fish. Without a host the ich will die. Keep the fish out for a minimum of six weeks, but eight is better. Once the ich is gone be sure to quarantine all new purchases.
florida joe
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(you will lose inverts and your nitrogen cycle and will not be able to keep inverts in the tank thereafter).
Al i am still waiting for proof positive that is absorbed and leached out in amounts that are detrimental. also what if he had a acrylic tank
Al i am still waiting for proof positive that is absorbed and leached out in amounts that are detrimental. also what if he had a acrylic tank
sargeboy
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is it possible to take all the inverts out of the DT instead of the fish so then i could treat the tank with hyposalinity? i dont have many inverts and catching the fish is my worst nightmare. wouldnt it also be faster. would the hypo salinity kill the good bacteria in my tank or anything else?
al mc
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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3233750
Al i am still waiting for proof positive that is absorbed and leached out in amounts that are detrimental. also what if he had a acrylic tank
I do not know of any proof either. Just did not want something 'bad' to happen in the future without some warning to the OP.
In the real world (my set up) I have been using an old 30g tank that I did use for as an HT with cupramine about 2+ years ago as my current QT tank for fish, crabs, snails and corals. While their stay in this tank is limited to several weeks I have a couple cleaner shrimp that have been residing in the tank for 8-9 months now with no apparent problem.
http:///forum/post/3233750
Al i am still waiting for proof positive that is absorbed and leached out in amounts that are detrimental. also what if he had a acrylic tank
I do not know of any proof either. Just did not want something 'bad' to happen in the future without some warning to the OP.
In the real world (my set up) I have been using an old 30g tank that I did use for as an HT with cupramine about 2+ years ago as my current QT tank for fish, crabs, snails and corals. While their stay in this tank is limited to several weeks I have a couple cleaner shrimp that have been residing in the tank for 8-9 months now with no apparent problem.
al mc
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Originally Posted by sargeboy
http:///forum/post/3234163
is it possible to take all the inverts out of the DT instead of the fish so then i could treat the tank with hyposalinity? i dont have many inverts and catching the fish is my worst nightmare. wouldnt it also be faster. would the hypo salinity kill the good bacteria in my tank or anything else?
That is a reasonable plan. You will not lose the bacteria responsible for your nitrogen cycle with hyposalinity. You may get an ammonia 'bump' as some of the microcritters on/in the rock die. So, just be prepared with some ammonia locking compound like Amquel Plus and/or water for water changes.
http:///forum/post/3234163
is it possible to take all the inverts out of the DT instead of the fish so then i could treat the tank with hyposalinity? i dont have many inverts and catching the fish is my worst nightmare. wouldnt it also be faster. would the hypo salinity kill the good bacteria in my tank or anything else?
That is a reasonable plan. You will not lose the bacteria responsible for your nitrogen cycle with hyposalinity. You may get an ammonia 'bump' as some of the microcritters on/in the rock die. So, just be prepared with some ammonia locking compound like Amquel Plus and/or water for water changes.
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/3234201
I do not know of any proof either. Just did not want something 'bad' to happen in the future without some warning to the OP.
In the real world (my set up) I have been using an old 30g tank that I did use for as an HT with cupramine about 2+ years ago as my current QT tank for fish, crabs, snails and corals. While their stay in this tank is limited to several weeks I have a couple cleaner shrimp that have been residing in the tank for 8-9 months now with no apparent problem.
Al for what its worth I remember the topic of copper leaching came up a while ago and I contacted the rep from Seachem at that time and she said that they never had a problem with cupramine leaching out of silicone to levels detrimental to any inhabitants of a marine aquarium
http:///forum/post/3234201
I do not know of any proof either. Just did not want something 'bad' to happen in the future without some warning to the OP.
In the real world (my set up) I have been using an old 30g tank that I did use for as an HT with cupramine about 2+ years ago as my current QT tank for fish, crabs, snails and corals. While their stay in this tank is limited to several weeks I have a couple cleaner shrimp that have been residing in the tank for 8-9 months now with no apparent problem.
Al for what its worth I remember the topic of copper leaching came up a while ago and I contacted the rep from Seachem at that time and she said that they never had a problem with cupramine leaching out of silicone to levels detrimental to any inhabitants of a marine aquarium
al mc
Active Member
Originally Posted by sargeboy
http:///forum/post/3234475
how long would i have to keep the salinity at 1.009? i have a protein skimmer and trickle filter so i have really never had an amonnia spike ever.
Three weeks from last last visible sign of Ich on the fish. Then raise salinity over 5-7 days.
http:///forum/post/3234475
how long would i have to keep the salinity at 1.009? i have a protein skimmer and trickle filter so i have really never had an amonnia spike ever.
Three weeks from last last visible sign of Ich on the fish. Then raise salinity over 5-7 days.
florida joe
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i have a protein skimmer and trickle filter so i have really never had an amonnia spike ever.
can you explain why you think you never had an ammonia spike due to the fact that you have a skimmer and trickle filter.
Three weeks from last last visible sign of Ich on the fish. Then raise salinity over 5-7 days.
I am going to have to respectfully disagree with my good friend . Al i would treat via hypo for at least 6 weeks using the documented time line of the parasites life cycle
can you explain why you think you never had an ammonia spike due to the fact that you have a skimmer and trickle filter.
Three weeks from last last visible sign of Ich on the fish. Then raise salinity over 5-7 days.
I am going to have to respectfully disagree with my good friend . Al i would treat via hypo for at least 6 weeks using the documented time line of the parasites life cycle
cjrose
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Originally Posted by sargeboy
http:///forum/post/3234163
is it possible to take all the inverts out of the DT instead of the fish so then i could treat the tank with hyposalinity? i dont have many inverts and catching the fish is my worst nightmare. wouldnt it also be faster. would the hypo salinity kill the good bacteria in my tank or anything else?
I just did this. I took all 150 lbs of rock and all my inverts out of my 125 DT and did hypo in there. The rock was moved to a 55 gl qt with a heater and powerhead. I'm starting the week long process bringing the tank out of hypo today.
http:///forum/post/3234163
is it possible to take all the inverts out of the DT instead of the fish so then i could treat the tank with hyposalinity? i dont have many inverts and catching the fish is my worst nightmare. wouldnt it also be faster. would the hypo salinity kill the good bacteria in my tank or anything else?
I just did this. I took all 150 lbs of rock and all my inverts out of my 125 DT and did hypo in there. The rock was moved to a 55 gl qt with a heater and powerhead. I'm starting the week long process bringing the tank out of hypo today.
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by cjrose
http:///forum/post/3234825
I just did this. I took all 150 lbs of rock and all my inverts out of my 125 DT and did hypo in there. The rock was moved to a 55 gl qt with a heater and powerhead. I'm starting the week long process bringing the tank out of hypo today.
don't want to hijack but what happened to the mantis
http:///forum/post/3234825
I just did this. I took all 150 lbs of rock and all my inverts out of my 125 DT and did hypo in there. The rock was moved to a 55 gl qt with a heater and powerhead. I'm starting the week long process bringing the tank out of hypo today.
don't want to hijack but what happened to the mantis