I don't believe in "sick days"...

crimzy

Active Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3023365
This is a bit long but I think it needs to be said...
I got run off the road by a truck driver who was too sick to be on the road. My three small children were in the car and we were trapped for an hour. I can no longer drive on a busy highway, I go phobic and am not safe.
When you are sick...not to mention something as deadly as a big rig...stay home!
I do so much understand the need to work, but it is not worth your life and the life of those around you. Taking a sick day is not being a whimp it is being intelligent.
My brother in law was one of those never stay home guys. he went to work sick, he thought it was a flu, or bad indigestion from something he ate. His boss noticed how pale he looked and insisted he go to the doctor. The boss insisted to the point of driving him there himself, my brother in law went into convulsions and died on the way from a blocked artery. He was only 46.
All this grief was preventable. All it would have taken is for these people to stay home and say..."today I don't feel good and I am not going to work, I need a sick day."
When I was 22 years old, my left arm ached. I work at cleaning so a sore arm was a good enough excuse to me to take a day off, later that afternoon I had a massive heart attack. At 22 who would have thought of a heart attack? what if I had gone on in, I would be dead...A lady some years later did just that. The boss found her dead sitting in her station with a broom in her hand. She had been dead 3 hours before she was even missed.
I do not agree with you Crimzy, you do not know another’s pain or health. You wouldn't give a person a job because they ask about a benefit!! OMG what a horse’s rear! I hope you are never in authority. It is just a sick day...it is not your personal money. It is the company money. They have a budget with the sick days employees are allowed already factored in. You are willing to take food out of a person’s mouth and the mouths of their children because you think it wrong to inquire about a benefit??? So you won't give them a job...then I bet you turn around and say nobody should get unemployment.
Meowzer it is so very unwise to go to work sick. The guy who created the Muppets died very young because he didn't think he was all that sick.
Is there abuse? Sure, but the good outweighs the bad. If you’re sick stay home, and I don't think it is a requirement to be on the floor vomiting either. My personal experience with my heart attack is testimony to that.
Don't bother saying ... Well in that case, or in that instance it was okay...my whole point is that you never know when it is THAT case, or THAT instance.
You make valid points. No doubt that there are times when there are serious health concerns. That, however is very different from the person who doesn't want to work on a Monday when he/she has the sniffles.
I may be a "horse's rear" but I essentially do make the hiring decisions at my firm. If someone's first concern when asking for the job, is about sick days, then that shows something about his/her work ethic. There are too many hard working people with excellent work ethics to worry about someone who is going to stay home every time they stub their toe, for fear that this could be a life threatening ailment.
This is business, not personal... if someone wants to sit home, drink tea and watch the soaps just because he/she has a cold, then they are not going to be an asset to my company. There's a spectrum between being extremely driven and being extremely lazy.... in my business, I'd err on the side of driven.
 

kjr_trig

Active Member
I prefer people stay home if they are legitimately sick....A cold is one thing, but if you have something contagious like the flu or a stomach virus, stay home please. In my years of work, I have not had to call in for myself but a few times. I have had to miss work for my daughters ear infections before she got tubes, more than for my own illnesses ever.
 

crimzy

Active Member
Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/3023371
I prefer people stay home if they are legitimately sick....A cold is one thing, but if you have something contagious like the flu or a stomach virus, stay home please. In my years of work, I have not had to call in for myself but a few times. I have had to miss work for my daughters ear infections before she got tubes, more than for my own illnesses ever.
Sick days for a golf pro...

Your job is what I'd do if I took a sick day. Isn't that kind of like a millionaire trust fund baby wanting to take a sick day from his life? What do you do on your sick days, put on a suit and tie and go to an office to work??

J/K of course... jealousy can be ugly sometimes. BTW, how'd you enjoy that Tigers-Mariners series?
 

lil.guppy

Active Member
Crimzy I started laughing when I saw this post!
I am one of those people that bosses get mad at because I will come into work without a voice and sneezing and coughing crap everywhere. I hate calling in and I will do whatever I can to avoid it and let my boss be the one to tell me to go home.
 

crimzy

Active Member
Originally Posted by lil.guppy
http:///forum/post/3023374
Crimzy I started laughing when I saw this post!
I am one of those people that bosses get mad at because I will come into work without a voice and sneezing and coughing crap everywhere. I hate calling in and I will do whatever I can to avoid it and let my boss be the one to tell me to go home.

You are a true American.
Making me proud.
 

lil.guppy

Active Member
Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/3023376
You are a true American.
Making me proud.

Here is an example. I worked for the only computer advertising company in the world a few years ago and it was full of women. It seemed like this prissy chicks were calling in ALL THE FREAKIN time.
So the one day that i actually got the stomach bug I called in. The boss on the other line had that voice like, "yea right"
See its people who fake it or are calling in for the littlest things that make it worse for us hard workers.
Get out of bed, get to your job, and stop complaining.
 

meowzer

Moderator
FLOWER...I agree with some that you said...BUT to tell you the truth (I'm knocking on wood) I very rarely get sick.....I think when my kids were babies, my body just knew I did not have time for that

I would never put anyone elses, or my life at risk because of my (OCD) need to be at work...
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/3023367
You make valid points. No doubt that there are times when there are serious health concerns. That, however is very different from the person who doesn't want to work on a Monday when he/she has the sniffles.
I may be a "horse's rear" but I essentially do make the hiring decisions at my firm. If someone's first concern when asking for the job, is about sick days, then that shows something about his/her work ethic. There are too many hard working people with excellent work ethics to worry about someone who is going to stay home every time they stub their toe, for fear that this could be a life threatening ailment.
This is business, not personal... if someone wants to sit home, drink tea and watch the soaps just because he/she has a cold, then they are not going to be an asset to my company. There's a spectrum between being extremely driven and being extremely lazy.... in my business, I'd err on the side of driven.


A person that has a fair boss and good working conditions, and yes sick days just in case, is going to be more of an asset than the soul who is petrified to stay home when they are sick, and they will do substandard work when they are there.
I started my job at 17, I still have that same job today. I was not driven when I was young. I developed driven when I had a family that depended on me. As the almighty make or break guy, I am going to request a little wiggle room for those young souls who may not be "driven". Check the education and ability to learn and pick up new things, the driven part will come in time.
Don't be so harsh... Give them...let’s say, 90 days, maybe don't even mention they have 90 days and test the waters and see what they are made of. To deny a much needed job because they ask about a benefit is a bit harsh and no indicator of laziness, a true lazy person is going to show their true colors in 90 days.
It is okay to be strict, just be a little more fair.
 

lil.guppy

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3023380
FLOWER...I agree with some that you said...BUT to tell you the truth (I'm knocking on wood) I very rarely get sick.....I think when my kids were babies, my body just knew I did not have time for that

I would never put anyone elses, or my life at risk because of my (OCD) need to be at work...

I am just like that. Last time I had to call in was at the computer job back in 2005!!!!!
Knock on wood too!
I have to admit I feel bad for the people who truly get sick all the time. Not everyone has the same imune system. Blame it on your mom for not keeping you on the boob long enough
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by lil.guppy
http:///forum/post/3023382
I am just like that. Last time I had to call in was at the computer job back in 2005!!!!!
Knock on wood too!
I have to admit I feel bad for the people who truly get sick all the time. Not everyone has the same imune system. Blame it on your mom for not keeping you on the boob long enough

You may laugh but there is some truth to that.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by lil.guppy
http:///forum/post/3023382
I am just like that. Last time I had to call in was at the computer job back in 2005!!!!!
Knock on wood too!
I have to admit I feel bad for the people who truly get sick all the time. Not everyone has the same imune system. Blame it on your mom for not keeping you on the boob long enough

MY kids got a bottle
hmmm...maybe that's their problem....My son is just like me though...very rarely gets sick....my 3 girls are all hypocondriacs
DRIVES ME CRAZY
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by lil.guppy
http:///forum/post/3023391
Yes its slightly true but formula HAS come a long way so they cant really use that much anymore.
But anyways back to the subject

I was referring to the immunity, not so much the milk, although that was really funny. We inherit more than the color of our eyes from our parents.
 

lil.guppy

Active Member
I think it also comes with age. My dad was like me where he never got sick. Now it seems like hes sick every month!
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by lil.guppy
http:///forum/post/3023406
I think it also comes with age. My dad was like me where he never got sick. Now it seems like hes sick every month!
lil. Guppy, age does that to everyone, if you live long enough. Not only sick, but creaky bones, and achy muscles to boot. but it is better than the alternative!
 

crimzy

Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3023423
With an view like this, how in the world do you vote democrat?
Seriously

Not sure why everyone thinks I'm liberal. I have some liberal views, but on a lot of issues I am a cold-hearted SOB conservative.

Why did I vote democrat?
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