I don't believe in "sick days"...

stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/3023739
If people stopped getting paid to stay at home and watch trash TV, then maybe they'd make more of an effort to show up to work. It's amazing how quick people can recover from their sniffles when it affects their paychecks. Boss and myself decided that there's going to be some new policies in our office. He asked me to sit the girls down this week when he's out of town and lay down the law. Apparently I'm the hired gun...

lol, you need to tell your boss that his name is on the door (building or whatever) and you don't get the paycheck to be the bad guy...
 
jemshores

jemshores

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/3023739
That's great news... imagine what an advantage I have over the rest of the Floridians when I work about 10 hours per week more than them.

Plan on leaving alot of voice mails-cause no one will be there to answer your calls! Same on Monday AM's, hurricane warnings, tornado watches, cobia running, etc!!

PMS??? If it's PMS then why am I always this way?
If people stopped getting paid to stay at home and watch trash TV, then maybe they'd make more of an effort to show up to work. It's amazing how quick people can recover from their sniffles when it affects their paychecks. Boss and myself decided that there's going to be some new policies in our office. He asked me to sit the girls down this week when he's out of town and lay down the law. Apparently I'm the hired gun...

What are U taking for your hot flashes???
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/3023739
That's great news... imagine what an advantage I have over the rest of the Floridians when I work about 10 hours per week more than them.

PMS??? If it's PMS then why am I always this way?
If people stopped getting paid to stay at home and watch trash TV, then maybe they'd make more of an effort to show up to work. It's amazing how quick people can recover from their sniffles when it affects their paychecks. Boss and myself decided that there's going to be some new policies in our office. He asked me to sit the girls down this week when he's out of town and lay down the law. Apparently I'm the hired gun...

What is the real issue here? I honestly don't think you prefer to have someone with a contagious disease walking around you at work. You're not bulletproof, and it doesn't help your firm if you're under the weather while handling a big case. I also don't think you'd want to take some disease home to your small child. Sounds more like jealousy to me. Let me guess. You have these one or two people who continually do the '3 day weekend' scenario at least once a month, and you know they aren't sick. You've complained to upper management about it, and it's fallen on deaf ears. Been there, done that.
I've had one or two employees pull the same stuff on me. I now have a policy that if you are sick on a Friday, Monday, or a day preceeding or after a major holiday, you have to produce a valid doctor's excuse for your ailment. If you're out because of a sick family member (child, parent, wife), bring the same doctor's note you'd give the school, or their employer. I do allow some leniency if you can't always make it to the doctor. The only one's who complain about the rule are the one's who try to abuse it. I also have the luxury to tell my employees that unless they are at death's door, there's no reason they can't work from home while they are sick. They have the capabilities to access their work computers from home, and we have monitoring software that allows us to track whether they are connected or not.
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3023874
What is the real issue here? I honestly don't think you prefer to have someone with a contagious disease walking around you at work. You're not bulletproof, and it doesn't help your firm if you're under the weather while handling a big case. I also don't think you'd want to take some disease home to your small child. Sounds more like jealousy to me. Let me guess. You have these one or two people who continually do the '3 day weekend' scenario at least once a month, and you know they aren't sick. You've complained to upper management about it, and it's fallen on deaf ears. Been there, done that.
I've had one or two employees pull the same stuff on me. I now have a policy that if you are sick on a Friday, Monday, or a day preceeding or after a major holiday, you have to produce a valid doctor's excuse for your ailment. If you're out because of a sick family member (child, parent, wife), bring the same doctor's note you'd give the school, or their employer. I do allow some leniency if you can't always make it to the doctor. The only one's who complain about the rule are the one's who try to abuse it. I also have the luxury to tell my employees that unless they are at death's door, there's no reason they can't work from home while they are sick. They have the capabilities to access their work computers from home, and we have monitoring software that allows us to track whether they are connected or not.
I like your methods! I LOVE your reasoning!
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3023874
What is the real issue here? I honestly don't think you prefer to have someone with a contagious disease walking around you at work. You're not bulletproof, and it doesn't help your firm if you're under the weather while handling a big case. I also don't think you'd want to take some disease home to your small child. Sounds more like jealousy to me. Let me guess. You have these one or two people who continually do the '3 day weekend' scenario at least once a month, and you know they aren't sick. You've complained to upper management about it, and it's fallen on deaf ears. Been there, done that.
I've had one or two employees pull the same stuff on me. I now have a policy that if you are sick on a Friday, Monday, or a day preceeding or after a major holiday, you have to produce a valid doctor's excuse for your ailment. If you're out because of a sick family member (child, parent, wife), bring the same doctor's note you'd give the school, or their employer. I do allow some leniency if you can't always make it to the doctor. The only one's who complain about the rule are the one's who try to abuse it. I also have the luxury to tell my employees that unless they are at death's door, there's no reason they can't work from home while they are sick. They have the capabilities to access their work computers from home, and we have monitoring software that allows us to track whether they are connected or not.
That's not a bad policy. My personal feelings are not jealousy, and they have not fallen on deaf ears with upper management. It's just a matter of us deciding when is the right time to institute new and potentially unpleasant policies.
I simply want people here to be hard working and are committed to this team. I really could care less if someone is sick and needs to stay home but why should they get paid for it? All costs expended affect net profits and thus my bottom line. If someone needs excess time off, then the firm doesn't need to pay for work not being done. There are a certain amount of reasonably paid days off per year... once someone exceeds this amount then it should be at their own cost. The problem that my firm has had, though is that there has been no rigid policy so some people know that they can get away with it excessively.
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/3023890
That's not a bad policy. My personal feelings are not jealousy, and they have not fallen on deaf ears with upper management. It's just a matter of us deciding when is the right time to institute new and potentially unpleasant policies.
I simply want people here to be hard working and are committed to this team. I really could care less if someone is sick and needs to stay home but why should they get paid for it? All costs expended affect net profits and thus my bottom line. If someone needs excess time off, then the firm doesn't need to pay for work not being done. There are a certain amount of reasonably paid days off per year... once someone exceeds this amount then it should be at their own cost. The problem that my firm has had, though is that there has been no rigid policy so some people know that they can get away with it excessively.
I must agree that if you have designated sick days, if exceeded it should indeed be at the employees cost.
My company... we have our 3 sick days, 5 personal days and we can even split 2 vacation weeks into days off. However once spent it at our cost not theirs. Also a doctor’s note is required if we have no more time coming, or we are off more than three days in a row.
I am not in an office. The office has different allotted time but the same policy.
Here I was thinking you disagreed with sick time off, period. I apologize, and retract my horse’s rear comment
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/3023890
That's not a bad policy. My personal feelings are not jealousy, and they have not fallen on deaf ears with upper management. It's just a matter of us deciding when is the right time to institute new and potentially unpleasant policies.
I simply want people here to be hard working and are committed to this team. I really could care less if someone is sick and needs to stay home but why should they get paid for it? All costs expended affect net profits and thus my bottom line. If someone needs excess time off, then the firm doesn't need to pay for work not being done. There are a certain amount of reasonably paid days off per year... once someone exceeds this amount then it should be at their own cost. The problem that my firm has had, though is that there has been no rigid policy so some people know that they can get away with it excessively.
Most companies who have salaried employees don't have a defined number of days allocated to sick time. I worked salaried for years, and was always told "Technically you have 30 days a year for ailments. However, it's rarely ever tracked". However, they do define the specific number of sick days allocated to hourly-waged employees. Mainly because they have a way to track those hours, since hourly workers usually have time cards. Again, you won't get any arguments from me about the abusers. I don't like it anymore than you do. But when it comes down to taking sick days, you should take it on a case-by-case basis. I had one employee that appeared to be abusing the system, but then I found out he was taking the time off to take his mother to chemotherapy. He wanted to keep it private, and didn't think he was taking so much sick time off that we noticed. Yea, I could take the hardball approach and tell the guy that he should be either using vacation for the time off, or take off with no pay. But I tend to be a little more compassionate than that...
 
bang guy

bang guy

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I haven't read the entire thread so I'm probably just repeating many people here.
You sick people that show up at work disturb the concentration of the rest of us. Your hacking, sneezing, coughing, and nose blowing severly disrupts the workplace and causes countless hours of lost productivity as a result of your selfishness. Stay home if you're sick, we don't need the disruption nor do we need your contagions spread all around the office.
If you do decide to work instead of taking a couple days to rest and recover then don't whine to me when you contract bronchitis or pnemonia and have to spend 2 weeks in the hospital. You'll receive no sympathy from me.
 
lovethesea

lovethesea

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yep, he's my hero!
Flash back to this morning. I show up to work happy and healthy. I am in my cube minding my own business, concentrating on some inventory numbers
and .........COUGH, COUGH, COUGH,......phlemy, cough, SNEEZE,..........SNORT......COUGH, BLOWING NOSE. Phlemy cough AGAIN.
(the Monk in me is now wanting to go home and drench myself in bleach)
not to mention wipe everything down.
Yeah, for the next 7 hours that is ALL I heard. ALL I HEARD. Every second, every minute. COUGH, COUGH, COUGH !!!!!!!!!!!
When I said to her.."When did you get this?, how are you feeling?" Her reply "It struck me Saturday night and I have been miserable ever since! COUGH, COUGH, COUGH!! "
WTH.......why are you here???? You are infecting EVERYONE. One person can bounce back in a day or two. Some people get hit hard for days. GO HOME. I swear to all that is good, if I get sick I will go to her house for the days that I am sick. My kids don't want it, nor does my husband.
Crimz......most lame people will abuse their sick days. Most sane people will call in sick at the most ..only when necessary. It will save them and you. 1 lost sick day will replace 3-4 half productive spreading germs going to work days.
Me, personally did not have a sick day in 7 years. YEP, 7 years. Then I had a kid. They are little petri dishes with legs. All of that fluid coming from their nasal cavities is filled withi germs. As parents we get zapped.
Before the seven years??? I can only recall once when a stomach virus hit me and a few others that I worked with. I can't imagine being at work and fighting over bathroom/trash can time!! I guess we could use your office?

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bs21

bs21

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i'm a smoker and my immune system functions well. I eat healthy foods get plenty of exercise etc... when it comes to the common cold and the flu other viruses etc.. im more inclined to think its the lifestyle and overall health of the person that affect their immune system not so much just because they are a smoker.
On the subject I am okwith sick days as long as theyare not abused but it is easy to get burnt out in many jobs so taking a day off now and then can go along way to increasing overall office productivity.
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by bs21
http:///forum/post/3025594
i'm a smoker and my immune system functions well. I eat healthy foods get plenty of exercise etc... when it comes to the common cold and the flu other viruses etc.. im more inclined to think its the lifestyle and overall health of the person that affect their immune system not so much just because they are a smoker.
On the subject I am okwith sick days as long as theyare not abused but it is easy to get burnt out in many jobs so taking a day off now and then can go along way to increasing overall office productivity.
Quit now while you still have your health...because it won't last. I am sure you have heard that from everyone and every doctor. It is good advice so I will say it again because smoke related death is the worst, very slow and very, very painful.
 
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