I need a super bowl snack that will impress a girl...

jdl

jdl

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Originally Posted by DeMartini
http:///forum/post/2932946
You're saying that a sugar free candy bar has more sugar than an actual candy bar which is wrong. You're basing the sugar content off carb counts. Companies add sugar Alcohols like malatol or Splenda in place of actual sugar. They still have to add the sugar alcohols to the carb count, but unlike real sugar, sugar alcohols don't cause an insulin spike...therefore they are ok for diabetics. How do you think companies that specialize in diabetic candy sweeten their products?
no i am not wrong. This thread is about food for a diabetic, and they base everything off of carbs. It doesnt matter how the carbs get there, a carb is a carb is a carb.
when a diabetic eats, all they do is look at a label or a book that shows the carbs and then take x amount of insulin / carb.
just so you know, i've had this disease for 30+ years and count everything from the smallest to the largest item. I have had an A1C of 6.4 for years and am in perfect health/weight. I dont care how the carb was formed, all i care about is the carb. (and fat/protein if it is a meat)

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edit: to adjust the carb is a carb is a carb comment. Some are low glycemic and some are high. Still count them the same way but may alter the way the same amount of insulin is delivered.
 
jdl

jdl

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Originally Posted by DeMartini
http:///forum/post/2932964
so sugar free candy bars have more sugar than a snickers? lol ok

To clear this up, the term sugar = carb for the way we are using it.
To answer your question, it depends. Some of the hard sugar free candy is really sugar free/carb free. But the sugar free chocolate generally has more carbs then real candy. And Carbs is the real thing that any diabetic cares about. They never look at the sugar label, only carb.
this is why most items people think are sugar free is not. Pasta is king of sugar, it has a ton of sugar in it. Again, sugar = carb for this conversation.
 
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usirchchris

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Originally Posted by JDL
http:///forum/post/2932808
that's just it. There isnt a diabetic diet. Sure they should have a set calorie intake, but other then that, nothing special.
Nothing is taxing on their health compared to people without diabetice, which is my point.
my other point was unless you are serving cardboard, it will eventually turn into sugar anyway.
I have a cousin who is a severe diabetic, and has a very strict diet he must follow. He has one of those internal insulin pumps, but has it so severely that he even has restrictions on his driving. I have other cousins that sound closer to what you are talking about, but still have to avoid certain things. Dunno, perhaps there is a medical breakthrough in your area that has not reached ours
Perhaps just a difference in Type I and II diabetes.
 
jdl

jdl

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Originally Posted by usirchchris
http:///forum/post/2933032
I have a cousin who is a severe diabetic, and has a very strict diet he must follow. He has one of those internal insulin pumps, but has it so severely that he even has restrictions on his driving. I have other cousins that sound closer to what you are talking about, but still have to avoid certain things. Dunno, perhaps there is a medical breakthrough in your area that has not reached ours
Perhaps just a difference in Type I and II diabetes.
no, you are probably just describing a worse case scenerio. The difference in type I and type II is type I cannot produce any insulin, type II can. But they both can be on the same devices. Some type II can also only be on a pill and even be 'cured' with a better diet.
The pump is the latest and greatest thing out there. For those that only take needles, look into the pump. It will change your life for the better.
 
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usirchchris

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Originally Posted by JDL
http:///forum/post/2933049
no, you are probably just describing a worse case scenerio. The difference in type I and type II is type I cannot produce any insulin, type II can. But they both can be on the same devices. Some type II can also only be on a pill and even be 'cured' with a better diet.
The pump is the latest and greatest thing out there. For those that only take needles, look into the pump. It will change your life for the better.
Yeah, for a time the internal pump did do good things for him. Then his health began to decline significantly. This was probably 5 years back, since then I have not really heard anything which probably means good things actually.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by JDL
http:///forum/post/2932957
no i am not wrong. This thread is about food for a diabetic, and they base everything off of carbs. It doesnt matter how the carbs get there, a carb is a carb is a carb.
when a diabetic eats, all they do is look at a label or a book that shows the carbs and then take x amount of insulin / carb.
just so you know, i've had this disease for 30+ years and count everything from the smallest to the largest item. I have had an A1C of 6.4 for years and am in perfect health/weight. I dont care how the carb was formed, all i care about is the carb. (and fat/protein if it is a meat)

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edit: to adjust the carb is a carb is a carb comment. Some are low glycemic and some are high. Still count them the same way but may alter the way the same amount of insulin is delivered.

I'm not a diabetic, but I have played the 'carb game' while being on the Atkins Diet to lose weight. As most of you know, that diet is based on low carb intake. I know for a fact that I have purchased 'Atkins Style' chocolate that contains as little as 2g of carbs. This is something from the Atkins site regarding carbs and sugars:
All Carbs Are Not Created Equal
To complicate matters still further, carbohydrates are comprised of several subgroups, which include dietary fiber, sugar, sugar alcohol and other carbohydrates—a kitchen-sink grouping of gums, lignans, organic acids and flavenoids. (These individual items can be assayed.) The FDA requires that a nutrition label include the total carbohydrates. The amount of dietary fiber and sugars must also be listed. However, the law does not require that other carbohydrate subcategories appear. Some manufacturers voluntarily include the subcategories of sugar alcohol and "other carbohydrates." Others do not.
Not all types of carbohydrates behave the same way in your body. For example, when your body digests table sugar, it turns it immediately into blood sugar. Other carbs, such as sugar alcohols, have a minimal impact on blood-sugar levels. Still other carbs, such as dietary fiber, pass through your body without having any impact on blood-sugar level. To date, the FDA has not focused on these important biochemical differences and treats all carbohydrates alike.
The Impact on Blood Sugar
When you look at most food labels, you won’t see a number representing the grams of carbs that impact your blood sugar. These high-glycemic carbs are the carbs that you need to count known as the Net Carb count. Fortunately, you don't have to be a food scientist or math whiz to figure it out. To calculate the carbs that count, simply subtract the number of grams of dietary fiber from the total number of carbohydrate grams.
Atkins science allows us to calculate Net Carbs in our products more accurately. In addition to subtracting grams of dietary fiber from total carbohydrates, we’re able to account for glycerin and other ingredients that have minimal impact on blood sugar levels that might not show up on a standard food label. We can also check Net Carbs using analytical techniques. But what is important for you to know is that all Atkins bars and shakes are low in Net Carbs.
What Is a Serving?
There is another rather sneaky aspect of nutrition labels. Let’s look at (but don’t drink!) a 20-ounce bottle of flavored iced tea sweetened with corn syrup. That's one serving, right? Wrong! Look carefully at the Nutrition Facts label and you will see that a single serving is calculated not as 20 ounces but as eight ounces. You are expected to share that bottle with a friend and a half! That means that all those calculations about carbohydrate content, sugar content and calories are for only eight ounces, not the whole bottle.
So, whenever you check a label to make sure you are not going over your daily carb count, double-check the serving size as well. And if you are planning to have more than what’s considered a single serving, multiply the adjusted carb count by the appropriate number of servings.
Here’s what you should be aware of on a nutrition label:
Serving size (if you have more than one serving, be sure to add in the carbs)
Total carbohydrates expressed in grams
Amount of dietary fiber expressed in grams (subtract from total number of carbs to get the net carb count)
Sugars expressed in grams
 
jdl

jdl

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2933154
I'm not a diabetic, but I have played the 'carb game' while being on the Atkins Diet to lose weight. As most of you know, that diet is based on low carb intake. I know for a fact that I have purchased 'Atkins Style' chocolate that contains as little as 2g of carbs. This is something from the Atkins site regarding carbs and sugars:
very different trying to lose weight and carbs for sugar. Sure you may have found them with 2g of carbs, how big were they? And if she is taking her insulin strictly like the op said, it doesnt matter how many carbs she eats anyway.
All Carbs Are Not Created Equal
To complicate matters still further, carbohydrates are comprised of several subgroups, which include dietary fiber, sugar, sugar alcohol and other carbohydrates—a kitchen-sink grouping of gums, lignans, organic acids and flavenoids. (These individual items can be assayed.) The FDA requires that a nutrition label include the total carbohydrates. The amount of dietary fiber and sugars must also be listed. However, the law does not require that other carbohydrate subcategories appear. Some manufacturers voluntarily include the subcategories of sugar alcohol and "other carbohydrates." Others do not.
very different trying to lose weight and carbs for sugar
Not all types of carbohydrates behave the same way in your body. For example, when your body digests table sugar, it turns it immediately into blood sugar. Other carbs, such as sugar alcohols, have a minimal impact on blood-sugar levels. Still other carbs, such as dietary fiber, pass through your body without having any impact on blood-sugar level. To date, the FDA has not focused on these important biochemical differences and treats all carbohydrates alike.
very different trying to lose weight and carbs for sugar
The Impact on Blood Sugar
When you look at most food labels, you won’t see a number representing the grams of carbs that impact your blood sugar. These high-glycemic carbs are the carbs that you need to count known as the Net Carb count. Fortunately, you don't have to be a food scientist or math whiz to figure it out. To calculate the carbs that count, simply subtract the number of grams of dietary fiber from the total number of carbohydrate grams.
very few foods have enough fiber to offset any carb. They are generally ignored. Go ask any nutritionist. Yes i see one of those too.
Atkins science allows us to calculate Net Carbs in our products more accurately. In addition to subtracting grams of dietary fiber from total carbohydrates, we’re able to account for glycerin and other ingredients that have minimal impact on blood sugar levels that might not show up on a standard food label. We can also check Net Carbs using analytical techniques. But what is important for you to know is that all Atkins bars and shakes are low in Net Carbs.
What Is a Serving?
There is another rather sneaky aspect of nutrition labels. Let’s look at (but don’t drink!) a 20-ounce bottle of flavored iced tea sweetened with corn syrup. That's one serving, right? Wrong! Look carefully at the Nutrition Facts label and you will see that a single serving is calculated not as 20 ounces but as eight ounces. You are expected to share that bottle with a friend and a half! That means that all those calculations about carbohydrate content, sugar content and calories are for only eight ounces, not the whole bottle.
So, whenever you check a label to make sure you are not going over your daily carb count, double-check the serving size as well. And if you are planning to have more than what’s considered a single serving, multiply the adjusted carb count by the appropriate number of servings.
Here’s what you should be aware of on a nutrition label:
Serving size (if you have more than one serving, be sure to add in the carbs)
Total carbohydrates expressed in grams
Amount of dietary fiber expressed in grams (subtract from total number of carbs to get the net carb count)
Sugars expressed in grams
Sure we can argue high glycemic vs. low glycemic and other stuff. But the fact is a diabetic can eat whatever everyone else eats with or without the pump. Those without the pump usually just take more insulin. Those with the pump, you probably wouldnt even know it.
Atkins in the worst diet for a diabetic because the 0 carb meats turn into a TON of sugar 5 hours later. Do they warn about that anywhere on the site?
 
joe____17

joe____17

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Originally Posted by JDL
http:///forum/post/2933185
S. But the fact is a diabetic can eat whatever everyone else eats with or without the pump.

QFT! My gf is diabetic and she can eat whatever she wants if she takes her insulin.Of course she's smart enough to know what not that good for her. On with the super bowl snack ideas!
 
jtt

jtt

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Hey guys, checking in from work. All good things and ideas... Even though about 40 of the last posts have been arguments on diabetes. Funny that ýou said that the serving for a 20oz soda can is really only 8oz, because just now the diabetic in question was low on sugar so she got a bottle of lemonade, drank about 30% of it, and gave the rest to me because of the serving amount.
Anyways, the sister whom I am actually trying to persue, is going out with some people to tgi fridays tonight, and my coworker and some people from work were invited, but I totally wasn't invited to go. I'm all bummed out, and I don't wanna be that guy that like invites himself along or randomly "happens" to show up at the same place at the same time... And it wasn't like they forgot to invite me, they've had pleanty of chance to invite me throughout the day and they havnt, talking about it at lunch, on breaks, inviting other people... But not me. I'm heaps bummed.
I just wish I could accurately read and understand signals from girls, because I've been thinking this whole week she was into me, but it appears as though I may be wrong.
Perhaps I won't even go to the superbowl party.
 
pumper

pumper

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My mom thought it was important for all her sons in the family to cook because women no longer do it. So ive never really had this problem. I'm sure a simple "google search" will turn up some more than interesting and well-suited dishes. You could try and make a homemade cheesecake, but you have to own the right equipment to make it. Caramel cream pies and lemon marang are easy to make. Also seven layer mexican dip is really easy and everyone loves it. I think the 7 layer dip will work for a diabetic too- it's mosty veggies and sour cream.
Good luck my young friend and happy "gaming."
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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You are reading WAY too much into this. So you've been talking to this girl all week, and she invited you to a Super Bowl party, correct? So what does that have to do with not getting invited to TGI Friday's tonight? Maybe your coworker is weirding out about you potentially dating her sister.
Great thing about texting. You can 'call' someone without actually having to call them. Send her a message like "Wassup. Doin' anything tonight?" If she doesn't respond, she's either not looking at her phone, or doesn't want to talk to you right now. If she does respond, and tells you "Nothin", or "Just watchin' TV at home", when you know she's at Friday's, well....
On the other hand, she may text you back with, "Hey why didn't you come to Friday's with everyone else?" You won't know unless you try...
 
pumper

pumper

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Originally Posted by JTT
http:///forum/post/2933318
Hey guys, checking in from work. All good things and ideas... Even though about 40 of the last posts have been arguments on diabetes. Funny that ýou said that the serving for a 20oz soda can is really only 8oz, because just now the diabetic in question was low on sugar so she got a bottle of lemonade, drank about 30% of it, and gave the rest to me because of the serving amount.
Anyways, the sister whom I am actually trying to pursue, is going out with some people to tgi fridays tonight, and my coworker and some people from work were invited, but I totally wasn't invited to go. I'm all bummed out, and I don't wanna be that guy that like invites himself along or randomly "happens" to show up at the same place at the same time... And it wasn't like they forgot to invite me, they've had pleanty of chance to invite me throughout the day and they havnt, talking about it at lunch, on breaks, inviting other people... But not me. I'm heaps bummed.
I just wish I could accurately read and understand signals from girls, because I've been thinking this whole week she was into me, but it appears as though I may be wrong.
Perhaps I won't even go to the superbowl party.
You need to go to the book store and get a book about body language. Specifically a book about women's body language. Trust me, you see one thing but it means another.
You stated "I just wish I could accurately read and understand signals from girls, because I've been thinking this whole week she was into me, but it appears as though I may be wrong. "
This is called oneitis. Oneitis is when a guy gets hung one one girl. Don't get hung up bro. Just because the girl was laughing at your jokes and thought you was fun don't mean she wants to pursue you intimately. She might just be one of those popular models of "fun girl."
And if you do get the chance to go out in this group again, don't smoother her in attention. If she is in fact hot, she is accustomed to this behavior from men. What you will want to do is target one of her friends that is not as good looking as she is.. And maybe flirt with her a little and buy her a drink. At this point your target will become yellow and try to regain your attention is she is in fact interested in you. i think you may be focused on the dish a little too much. If she likes you, she wont care what you bring as long as you come.
 
pumper

pumper

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I do not think its a good idea to text her while she is supposedly at tgi's. This is a bad idea imo. Wait until a day later. Wait for her to say something about tgi's, dont ask or inquire. They might be having a girl's night out, it is thursday you know.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Pumper
http:///forum/post/2933470
I do not think its a good idea to text her while she is supposedly at tgi's. This is a bad idea imo. Wait until a day later. Wait for her to say something about tgi's, dont ask or inquire. They might be having a girl's night out, it is thursday you know.
Depends if only female coworkers were invited. Also depends how often he's been talking to her this week.
 
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