I need to vent

flower

Well-Known Member

I’m so angry and I need to vent….
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My daughter is in the hospital, I have three of her children staying with me for the duration. I have a 13 year old grandchild named Alyssa. Her mother allows her to drink Venom, an energy drink. Alyssa couldn’t sleep last night and had the jitters. I told her no more venom.
This afternoon she wanted to drink the venom her mom had left here for her, I said no and stuck with it. My granddaughter whom I adore called me a jerk. I also was letting her use my laptop computer to download music to her iphone. Since I am a jerk, I figured why let her use it, so I took that away too.
I don’t think I’m wrong to cut off the drink, even though her mom allows it, I think her mom is nuts to let her anyway. My own children wouldn’t dare speak to me that way and I will be dog danged if my grandkids will.
Comments?
 

meowzer

Moderator
LOL....I would never allow my 13 year old child or grandchild to drink that crap either.....I would simply say....this is my house and my rules....if you don't like them DON'T COME!!!!!
I hate the ways kids talk to their parents today too....when my kids were little they NEVER would have talked back to me.....my 6 year old granddaughter used the f word once and I almost died...BUT her parents
use it daily, so they copy...BUT NOT AT MY HOUSE!!!!
I would take everything away......what's she gonna do...go home....LOL....either you respect me...or you sit in your room...no phone....no computer...no nothing!!!!
 

reefraff

Active Member
Spare the rod and spoil the child is my theory. I also refuse to argue with someone less than half my size and age.
All that being said I would cut her a little slack over the jerk comment. If mom's in the hospital she's stressing too. What does a 13 year old need a stinking energy drink for in the first place? Your house, your rules.
 

scottnlisa

Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3282140

I’m so angry and I need to vent….
.
My daughter is in the hospital, I have three of her children staying with me for the duration. I have a 13 year old grandchild named Alyssa. Her mother allows her to drink Venom, an energy drink. Alyssa couldn’t sleep last night and had the jitters. I told her no more venom.
This afternoon she wanted to drink the venom her mom had left here for her, I said no and stuck with it. My granddaughter whom I adore called me a jerk. I also was letting her use my laptop computer to download music to her iphone. Since I am a jerk, I figured why let her use it, so I took that away too.
I don’t think I’m wrong to cut off the drink, even though her mom allows it, I think her mom is nuts to let her anyway. My own children wouldn’t dare speak to me that way and I will be dog danged if my grandkids will.
Comments?
I am assuming that this is not your first time wathching her. Correct? I guess there is 2 different styles of raising your granddaughter? If or when you have punished her in the past, did you daughter agree or disagree with you? What your daighter say if you told her that you didn't want her to drink Venom anymore. What would she say? Would she agree or disagree? If she disagrees then it is not your right to take that drink away from your granddaughter unless it is causing medical problems. If you don't like what she does, then don't watch her. It is not your job to bestow values or morals on your granddaughter. That is a parents job.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3282172
If you don't like what she does, then don't watch her. It is not your job to bestow values or morals on your granddaughter. That is a parents job.
Do you have kids???? If I do not approve of something....it WILL NOT be done in my home....so if my daughter askes me to watch her kids (my grand kids) I will do so with MY values...and MY morals or NOT AT ALL.....when her daughter asked her to watch the child....she should respect Flowers views....or find someone else
 

btldreef

Moderator
It's your house, they need to follow your rules. It's not like you're asking her to follow a rule that could hurt her, so I say, be a "jerk". Do you want her hooked on drugs by 16 because that's what the energy drink is going to lead to.... seen it happen to my husbands younger brother. Do not allow addiction to form if you can stop it, that's my thought anyways.
I think from reading other threads that I know why your daughter is in the hospital... and IMO, she's not the best role model for your grandchildren, so I don't think it really matters what she allows them to do, they're in your house under your care for the duration, so they either buck up, or sulk.
 
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smartorl

Guest
Scotnlisa.........wow. Your ideal world scares the heck out of me.
Moving on. It's your house, your rules period. Energy drinks are not good for these kids. She should consider herself lucky, my grandmother wouldn't allow us sugar, caffeine, or anything processed. Did I mention she had two channels on her tv set. Life at my grandmas sucked!
I would stand my ground and that also means not being a doormat and letting her disrespect you.
I would also have a talk with the daughter about the energy drinks. It seems to be a trend where parents give into their kids more and more rather than standing their ground. It could be that your daughter really would rather her not have them as well and this could be the beginning of the end. Kids get addicted to that crap and it's just not good for their bodies.
 

cranberry

Active Member
Hell no... your house, your rules. There are some things that are off limits or some things that require parental guidance as to how a grandma should handle certain situations... but to say whether or not a child can have an energy drink in your house?
Verbal disrespect... again, your house.. your rules (as long as it's legal). I can't stand rude kids. I know y'all think I'm soft on the kiddos because I don't agree with tazering the crap out of them, but I don't take lip. That child would be experiencing some hard manual labour right about now if I was near her.
Dog poo duty is deterring.... especially when you have to knock on all the neighbours doors and ask if they would like the poo picked up from their yard too.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3282183
Dog poo duty is deterring.... especially when you have to knock on all the neighbours doors and ask if they would like the poo picked up from their yard too.
that pic in my mind has me rollin on the floor....
 
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smartorl

Guest
Especially if the pooper scooper is a plastic spoon.................and you have rottweilers.
 

cranberry

Active Member
Any grumbling or rudeness along the way adds a block per episode. Parental chaperoning is a must to make the occasion all the more special for the children. Even if you don't like Country music... bring a Boom box loaded with Bill Ray Cyrus and practice the Achy Breaky Heart on the sidewalk. Take it up a notch and sing is also when you are outside of any "popular kid" house's from their school.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3282172
I am assuming that this is not your first time wathching her. Correct? I guess there is 2 different styles of raising your granddaughter? If or when you have punished her in the past, did you daughter agree or disagree with you? What your daighter say if you told her that you didn't want her to drink Venom anymore. What would she say? Would she agree or disagree? If she disagrees then it is not your right to take that drink away from your granddaughter unless it is causing medical problems. If you don't like what she does, then don't watch her. It is not your job to bestow values or morals on your granddaughter. That is a parents job.

I have raised this girl, she is my life..I try to not let the other kids know it, but she has my heart. It isn't that I can't take what she does, it that I love her so much it kills me to see her act so ugly.
Everyone else: Thanks guys, this is exactly what I needed to get everything off my chest…
A little back ground:
My daughter is sick and has been sick for some years. She has become addicted to legal drugs, so sometimes she really is sick when she heads to the hospital and sometimes not. This time around she is really sick.
I have practically raised her children, my daughter has lived with me each time she became pregnant..5 children later I refused to let her come home with the last pregnancy. Sadly I didn’t understand enabling until then. She was married, her nor her husband worked. I was concerned about the children and always took her in.
Those kids adore me, and I adore them and we are very, very close. I hardly know my sons children, he lives far away and caters to his wife’s family, which is fine. That is perfectly normal and his children love me as a grandmother. They are not as attached to me as my daughters kids are. For them I have always been a big part of their life right in the house with them
I got finally got smart and I made my daughter step up to the plate, things are much better. However my daughter is extremely lenient toward Alyssa her oldest and my first grandchild. She lets this kid get away with so much, she grounds her but lets her off just hours later. She threatens to take away a privilege, then gives it back after an apology. I was always the kind that once I set a rule it’s concrete..grounded means grounded for the duration. I make my decision and stick to it. Alyssa knows this but she also knows I am the Nana, the nice sweet one. I’m sure she thinks I am wrapped around her finger like her Mom.
Now for scene two, this just happened.
Alyssa apologized an hour ago for the jerk remark. I accepted her apology and said nothing else. She just came into my room as I wrote this post and asked for the computer, I told her no, the computer was off limits for the day. She had a little tantrum insisting she will use her phone and run up a bill…that I had no say so since Mom gave her the phone. I told I can take the phone, but decided that I would call mom first. My daughter told me Alyssa wouldn’t run up the bill because she would lose the phone, that all was well, to not bother taking it away. So I let it go and let her talk to her mother fo a bit.
After the call from Mom, Alyssa asked again for the computer…again I said no and now the computer would not be used tomorrow either…She had a fit and said she wants to go home. She would call her dad, but dad has the two boys and no car, so she said she would call a cab…I shook my head at her at her and said it was a two hour drive, no cab will take her. She said she would call Aunt Sonya (my sister) I reminded her that she went to down south for the week.
So Alyssa stomped out of the room and went to the bathroom to scream…LOL..in the middle of her fit she dropped her phone in the toilet. I didn’t laugh in her face, but I gotta tell you, I believe there is a God and he knew she needed that phone taken away..
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3282188

So Alyssa stomped out of the room and went to the bathroom to scream…LOL..in the middle of her fit she dropped her phone in the toilet. I didn’t laugh in her face, but I gotta tell you, I believe there is a God and he knew she needed that phone taken away..

That is too funny....Flower...I have a daughter that has 3 kids....and so much of what you said is the same with me....It would take too long to explain......but I know what you mean
you stick to your guns.....IMO you are 100% right.....
funny tho.....I would have taken the phone....LOL....my kids dad got them a cell once...they thought since he got it for them I couldn't tke it HAHA...he was in NY...They lived with my in OK....IDC who bought it or paid for it.....
 

flower

Well-Known Member

My Daughter gave a cell phone to her 13 yr old, and her 9 yr old. These are fancy LG Banter text phone that slides up.
The light still works, but she can't dial on it..the buttons don't work. Since the light still works on it, I don't think its fried. I hope when it dries out it will be okay..it cost $50.00 to replace it. She had to replace one once before already.
 

aquaknight

Active Member
The my house, my rules thing is fine, and I agree. But if that's how a kid's raised, that's how the kid's raised. I'm not using this comparison to be insulting, but I wouldn't take in a stray dog and expect him to be completely house broken, or not to chew on at least something. If this girl was raised where that all she has to do is whine a little bit, and then she gets her way, that's what she's going to do. Of course not saying the behavior is right, but when you confront the problem, there will always be sparks (tantrums). If you want to change that behavior, that's what you're going to get. I wouldn't take anything personal, and it's certainly not the parental/kid power struggle it seemed like hinted on earlier, or the need to make some ungodly example out of her... It is, what it is (as much as I hate that saying).
Hopefully when you did take the Vemon/computer (more so the computer) away, you explained why. I can remember times when I got in disciplined out of the blue, and times I was sat down and told why. That always had a much more powerful effect.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by smartorl
http:///forum/post/3282185
Especially if the pooper scooper is a plastic spoon.................and you have rottweilers.


That's too funny..however my girls pick up poo because they want to help me care for the dogs (two German Shepherds) they actually offer without me saing anything and they like to rub my feet too. So they are realy good kids and were always sweet to me...so the jerk name really stung.
The plastic spoon and the neighbors really made me laugh. Thanks
If Alyssa had been able to sleep and had no reaction to the drink, I wouldn't have made a big deal out of it. I am not a control freak. She could not sleep until 2:00 in the morning, she had the jitters. This girl has a heart condition and faints, so the jitters scare me.
 

flower

Well-Known Member

I let the kids see this thread and we all laughed. (Not my posts) Just what you guys had to say.
Alyssa is looking through some cook books to make something instead of being on the phone or computer. She is laughing and smiling and my life is sweet with my girls again.
I stick to my guns and I am fair...LOL..Alyssa just said she thinks God was mad at her for yelling at me, that's why her phone took a swim and she was glad no turds were in there. LOL.
 

acrylic51

Active Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3282188

I have raised this girl, she is my life..I try to not let the other kids know it, but she has my heart. It isn't that I can't take what she does, it that I love her so much it kills me to see her act so ugly.
Everyone else: Thanks guys, this is exactly what I needed to get everything off my chest…
A little back ground:
My daughter is sick and has been sick for some years. She has become addicted to legal drugs, so sometimes she really is sick when she heads to the hospital and sometimes not. This time around she is really sick.
I have practically raised her children, my daughter has lived with me each time she became pregnant..5 children later I refused to let her come home with the last pregnancy. Sadly I didn’t understand enabling until then. She was married, her nor her husband worked. I was concerned about the children and always took her in.
Those kids adore me, and I adore them and we are very, very close. I hardly know my sons children, he lives far away and caters to his wife’s family, which is fine. That is perfectly normal and his children love me as a grandmother. They are not as attached to me as my daughters kids are. For them I have always been a big part of their life right in the house with them
I got finally got smart and I made my daughter step up to the plate, things are much better. However my daughter is extremely lenient toward Alyssa her oldest and my first grandchild. She lets this kid get away with so much, she grounds her but lets her off just hours later. She threatens to take away a privilege, then gives it back after an apology. I was always the kind that once I set a rule it’s concrete..grounded means grounded for the duration. I make my decision and stick to it. Alyssa knows this but she also knows I am the Nana, the nice sweet one. I’m sure she thinks I am wrapped around her finger like her Mom.
Now for scene two, this just happened.
Alyssa apologized an hour ago for the jerk remark. I accepted her apology and said nothing else. She just came into my room as I wrote this post and asked for the computer, I told her no, the computer was off limits for the day. She had a little tantrum insisting she will use her phone and run up a bill…that I had no say so since Mom gave her the phone. I told I can take the phone, but decided that I would call mom first. My daughter told me Alyssa wouldn’t run up the bill because she would lose the phone, that all was well, to not bother taking it away. So I let it go and let her talk to her mother fo a bit.
After the call from Mom, Alyssa asked again for the computer…again I said no and now the computer would not be used tomorrow either…She had a fit and said she wants to go home. She would call her dad, but dad has the two boys and no car, so she said she would call a cab…I shook my head at her at her and said it was a two hour drive, no cab will take her. She said she would call Aunt Sonya (my sister) I reminded her that she went to down south for the week.
So Alyssa stomped out of the room and went to the bathroom to scream…LOL..in the middle of her fit she dropped her phone in the toilet. I didn’t laugh in her face, but I gotta tell you, I believe there is a God and he knew she needed that phone taken away..
I usually don't chime in, in this forum but that is excellent......I just love though when my 2yr old grand daughter threatens to tell her mom on me....."Pop is mean"...Needless to say her mom is 18 and they both live with me everyday.....This is my oldest daughter from my first marriage, and regardless of who's mom or not....Your house your rules.....Honestly what does a 13yr old need with a phone anyways.....
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by acrylic51
http:///forum/post/3282236
I usually don't chime in, in this forum but that is excellent......I just love though when my 2yr old threatens to tell her mom on me....."Pop is mean"...Needless to say her mom is 18 and they both live with me everyday.....This is my oldest daughter from my first marriage, and regardless of who's mom or not....Your house your rules.....Honestly what does a 13yr old need with a phone anyways.....
Or a nine year old
....My kids got phones when they got their licenses....just cause we live in such a rural area, and I never wanted them to be stuck on a dark dirt road...
it's pretty scary...in the pitch black with NOTHING around you
 
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