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Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3282207
. She could not sleep until 2:00 in the morning, she had the jitters.
thats it
, my family, (me, my brother, my parents, and grandparents) was up until 4:00 watching dual survival yesterday, Now thats family bonding!
http:///forum/post/3282207
. She could not sleep until 2:00 in the morning, she had the jitters.
thats it
flower
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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3282238
Or a nine year old
....My kids got phones when they got their licenses....just cause we live in such a rural area, and I never wanted them to be stuck on a dark dirt road...
it's pretty scary...in the pitch black with NOTHING around you
EXACTLY!!! At least you had a good reason...My daughter tried to tell me she gave the 2 oldest girls cell phones so she could check up on them…I told her they make a phone plan where the ONLY number they can call is home…Fell on deaf ears. Texting too…just crazy. When I was 9 - 13 we were playing with Barbie dolls still.
Reefraf: The only car they have is an SUV, my daughter took the girls to Great America which is about a mile from my house in Illinois, She lives in Wisconsin 2 hours away. She went to the hospital (1 week ago)..the car is there with her and the three girls are with me. Her husband is trapped in Wisconsin with the two littlest boys 4 and 2 yrs olds and no car. I have family in Wisconsin to help him if he needs food or something, but he can’t get here.
http:///forum/post/3282238
Or a nine year old
EXACTLY!!! At least you had a good reason...My daughter tried to tell me she gave the 2 oldest girls cell phones so she could check up on them…I told her they make a phone plan where the ONLY number they can call is home…Fell on deaf ears. Texting too…just crazy. When I was 9 - 13 we were playing with Barbie dolls still.
Reefraf: The only car they have is an SUV, my daughter took the girls to Great America which is about a mile from my house in Illinois, She lives in Wisconsin 2 hours away. She went to the hospital (1 week ago)..the car is there with her and the three girls are with me. Her husband is trapped in Wisconsin with the two littlest boys 4 and 2 yrs olds and no car. I have family in Wisconsin to help him if he needs food or something, but he can’t get here.
darthtang aw
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Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3282172
I am assuming that this is not your first time wathching her. Correct? I guess there is 2 different styles of raising your granddaughter? If or when you have punished her in the past, did you daughter agree or disagree with you? What your daighter say if you told her that you didn't want her to drink Venom anymore. What would she say? Would she agree or disagree? If she disagrees then it is not your right to take that drink away from your granddaughter unless it is causing medical problems. If you don't like what she does, then don't watch her. It is not your job to bestow values or morals on your granddaughter. That is a parents job.
Really? You are serious?
Darth (not a pushover) Tang
P.S. My mom says I can smoke crack on thursdays. glad you wont be stopping me.
http:///forum/post/3282172
I am assuming that this is not your first time wathching her. Correct? I guess there is 2 different styles of raising your granddaughter? If or when you have punished her in the past, did you daughter agree or disagree with you? What your daighter say if you told her that you didn't want her to drink Venom anymore. What would she say? Would she agree or disagree? If she disagrees then it is not your right to take that drink away from your granddaughter unless it is causing medical problems. If you don't like what she does, then don't watch her. It is not your job to bestow values or morals on your granddaughter. That is a parents job.
Really? You are serious?
Darth (not a pushover) Tang
P.S. My mom says I can smoke crack on thursdays. glad you wont be stopping me.
darthtang aw
Active Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3282253
Her husband is trapped in Wisconsin with the two littlest boys 4 and 2 yrs olds and no car. I have family in Wisconsin to help him if he needs food or something, but he can’t get here.
Not buying that one right there.
darth (greyhound,) Tang
P.S. 69 dollars anywhere in the u.s.
http:///forum/post/3282253
Her husband is trapped in Wisconsin with the two littlest boys 4 and 2 yrs olds and no car. I have family in Wisconsin to help him if he needs food or something, but he can’t get here.
Not buying that one right there.
darth (greyhound,) Tang
P.S. 69 dollars anywhere in the u.s.
aquaknight
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3282280
Not buying that one right there.
darth (greyhound,) Tang
P.S. 69 dollars anywhere in the u.s.
It friggin' $69 for a person, yet it's usually more then $100 to ship via Greyhoud PackageXpress... Redonkulous....
Don't forget about the silverbullet called Amtrak either....
http:///forum/post/3282280
Not buying that one right there.
darth (greyhound,) Tang
P.S. 69 dollars anywhere in the u.s.
It friggin' $69 for a person, yet it's usually more then $100 to ship via Greyhoud PackageXpress... Redonkulous....
Don't forget about the silverbullet called Amtrak either....
flower
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3282280
Not buying that one right there.
darth (greyhound,) Tang
P.S. 69 dollars anywhere in the u.s.
LOL..If you knew her husband...He is MY age, chain smokes and... I will save that bizarre story for another day. That guy came from some planet not our own. She as 18 and I couldn't stop her. To give you just an idea..As much as I adore those kids, I moved 2 hours away just to survive and keep my sanity.
I will say this, I had one daughter...she has three...The Mothers curse lurks ever coser to her door.
Flo (I raised her to hook up with this???) wer
http:///forum/post/3282280
Not buying that one right there.
darth (greyhound,) Tang
P.S. 69 dollars anywhere in the u.s.
LOL..If you knew her husband...He is MY age, chain smokes and... I will save that bizarre story for another day. That guy came from some planet not our own. She as 18 and I couldn't stop her. To give you just an idea..As much as I adore those kids, I moved 2 hours away just to survive and keep my sanity.
I will say this, I had one daughter...she has three...The Mothers curse lurks ever coser to her door.
Flo (I raised her to hook up with this???) wer
mrdc
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My kids are very respectful and do what I say when I say. Now they don't listen to my wife and mother as well as I would like but they are pretty good for the most part. The only negative is that they like to lean on me too much when discipline is needed. That is going to make them continue to listen to me but less to them. I tell them that they need to quit relying on me so much. So I see your case as your house, your rules. Kids and grandkids need to obey more especially when the rules aren't that bad. Now I am not a believer in being super strict but I may be stricter than most. Well I will lay out my thoughts more when I get to a computer because typing this much on my blackberry is killing me.
flower
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Originally Posted by mrdc
http:///forum/post/3282290
My kids are very respectful and do what I say when I say. Now they don't listen to my wife and mother as well as I would like but they are pretty good for the most part. The only negative is that they like to lean on me too much when discipline is needed. That is going to make them continue to listen to me but less to them. I tell them that they need to quit relying on me so much. So I see your case as your house, your rules. Kids and grandkids need to obey more especially when the rules aren't that bad. Now I am not a believer in being super strict but I may be stricter than most. Well I will lay out my thoughts more when I get to a computer because typing this much on my blackberry is killing me.
Welll I know you have good eyes, I can't even see my Blackberry letters and they are so tiny to try and type on, and my fingers are small ..
I seldom loose it on the kids, I have allot more patients with the grandkids then I had with my own. I think it’s the pressure of not only discipline but bills and home life combined. Parents have allot on their plates. However being able to blow off steam and voice my opinions on this forum helped me keep my cool and keep things in perspective….I’m still laughing at some of the statements made this morning. That Grandmas house was no fun with no sugar and only 2 TV channels was a keeper.
On a serious note: What worries me are the statistics of grandparents bringing up the kids because the adult children are so incompetent. I so do not want to be a statistic, but I stand in ready mode if it comes to that.
I wasn’t perfect either, as a grandparent I see where I made my mistakes. I would have handled things a bit different now. So the give and take thing with kids, my daughter has to make her mistakes too.
My real complaint:
Legal drugs are just as addictive and dangerous as illegal drugs, perhaps more so. Doctors hand out those pain med prescriptions like candy. My daughter comes out here 70 miles from home to go see a doctor, she also travels 40 miles to Janesville for another doctor..all emergency room visits. Mind you she lives 5 minutes from a hospital right where she lives. The hospital she is in now, is even further than the one by me, 45 minutes away further south from Wisconsin. She is really sick this time, but now she knows another place to go. Absolute madness.
http:///forum/post/3282290
My kids are very respectful and do what I say when I say. Now they don't listen to my wife and mother as well as I would like but they are pretty good for the most part. The only negative is that they like to lean on me too much when discipline is needed. That is going to make them continue to listen to me but less to them. I tell them that they need to quit relying on me so much. So I see your case as your house, your rules. Kids and grandkids need to obey more especially when the rules aren't that bad. Now I am not a believer in being super strict but I may be stricter than most. Well I will lay out my thoughts more when I get to a computer because typing this much on my blackberry is killing me.
Welll I know you have good eyes, I can't even see my Blackberry letters and they are so tiny to try and type on, and my fingers are small ..
I seldom loose it on the kids, I have allot more patients with the grandkids then I had with my own. I think it’s the pressure of not only discipline but bills and home life combined. Parents have allot on their plates. However being able to blow off steam and voice my opinions on this forum helped me keep my cool and keep things in perspective….I’m still laughing at some of the statements made this morning. That Grandmas house was no fun with no sugar and only 2 TV channels was a keeper.
On a serious note: What worries me are the statistics of grandparents bringing up the kids because the adult children are so incompetent. I so do not want to be a statistic, but I stand in ready mode if it comes to that.
I wasn’t perfect either, as a grandparent I see where I made my mistakes. I would have handled things a bit different now. So the give and take thing with kids, my daughter has to make her mistakes too.
My real complaint:
Legal drugs are just as addictive and dangerous as illegal drugs, perhaps more so. Doctors hand out those pain med prescriptions like candy. My daughter comes out here 70 miles from home to go see a doctor, she also travels 40 miles to Janesville for another doctor..all emergency room visits. Mind you she lives 5 minutes from a hospital right where she lives. The hospital she is in now, is even further than the one by me, 45 minutes away further south from Wisconsin. She is really sick this time, but now she knows another place to go. Absolute madness.
Keep in mind that Flower is not the parent of this child, rather the grandmother. The problem is a soft drink, not that the kid smoking pot, staying out til 1am, skipping school, etc. Since the energy drink is approved by the parents, outright refusing to abide by what the parents approve of gives this kid some real mixed messages. I think I'd let this girl know what my concerns are concerning her drink choice and then, if she still insists on drinking it, then I'd go to the parents and let them know what the problem is. I'm assuming your daughter is not so ill that she can't be involved in resolving this issue?
I think venom has about the same amt of caffeine in it as a cup of coffee. And, no I've never drank the stuff.
I think venom has about the same amt of caffeine in it as a cup of coffee. And, no I've never drank the stuff.
crypt keeper
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Cell Phones are so cheap these days and IMO esstential for young kids. Once you hit middle school IMO they should have one. Rules should be set but they should have one. These times are a changin buddy. Change with em. Now a car. well those costs thousands for a decent one.
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3282240
They can't afford a car but give both kids a cell phone? OK.
Classic about the phone in the toilet.
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3282240
They can't afford a car but give both kids a cell phone? OK.
Classic about the phone in the toilet.
flower
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Originally Posted by Beth
http:///forum/post/3282307
Keep in mind that Flower is not the parent of this child, rather the grandmother. The problem is a soft drink, not that the kid smoking pot, staying out til 1am, skipping school, etc. Since the energy drink is approved by the parents, outright refusing to abide by what the parents approve of gives this kid some real mixed messages. I think I'd let this girl know what my concerns are concerning her drink choice and then, if she still insists on drinking it, then I'd go to the parents and let them know what the problem is. I'm assuming your daughter is not so ill that she can't be involved in resolving this issue?
I think venom has about the same amt of caffeine in it as a cup of coffee. And, no I've never drank the stuff.
Indeed, I had no issues with the drink until Alyssa couldn't/wouldn't go to bed at 2:00 in the morning. I am a night shift worker so I was up and could see what was going on. I told to get to bed, she said she was wide awake and had the jitters as she put it. I told her no more energy drinks which she had sipped on all day long. She has heart condition and faints scaring me to death, when she said jitters…I was done.
I was hurt that she called me a jerk over a drink that made her jumpy, I fully explained my concerns and why I said no more drinks..I don’t override mom, that’s why I called about the cell phone. I grounded her from the computer over the jerk remark, and extended the punishment for another day because she had a tantrum about it.
She was angrier about the computer than the drink, which was never mentioned after the jerk remark. She knew she overstepped with that lippy hateful remark. She thought that since she apologized all was forgiven, and she could get on the computer with no fall out. However, I stick to my punishments and not let her think it was a small thing to call her loving Nana names. I’m pretty confident she learned the lesson. Time will tell. She is just 13 after all, I still adore her.
http:///forum/post/3282307
Keep in mind that Flower is not the parent of this child, rather the grandmother. The problem is a soft drink, not that the kid smoking pot, staying out til 1am, skipping school, etc. Since the energy drink is approved by the parents, outright refusing to abide by what the parents approve of gives this kid some real mixed messages. I think I'd let this girl know what my concerns are concerning her drink choice and then, if she still insists on drinking it, then I'd go to the parents and let them know what the problem is. I'm assuming your daughter is not so ill that she can't be involved in resolving this issue?
I think venom has about the same amt of caffeine in it as a cup of coffee. And, no I've never drank the stuff.
Indeed, I had no issues with the drink until Alyssa couldn't/wouldn't go to bed at 2:00 in the morning. I am a night shift worker so I was up and could see what was going on. I told to get to bed, she said she was wide awake and had the jitters as she put it. I told her no more energy drinks which she had sipped on all day long. She has heart condition and faints scaring me to death, when she said jitters…I was done.
I was hurt that she called me a jerk over a drink that made her jumpy, I fully explained my concerns and why I said no more drinks..I don’t override mom, that’s why I called about the cell phone. I grounded her from the computer over the jerk remark, and extended the punishment for another day because she had a tantrum about it.
She was angrier about the computer than the drink, which was never mentioned after the jerk remark. She knew she overstepped with that lippy hateful remark. She thought that since she apologized all was forgiven, and she could get on the computer with no fall out. However, I stick to my punishments and not let her think it was a small thing to call her loving Nana names. I’m pretty confident she learned the lesson. Time will tell. She is just 13 after all, I still adore her.
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by crypt keeper
http:///forum/post/3282317
Cell Phones are so cheap these days and IMO esstential for young kids. Once you hit middle school IMO they should have one. Rules should be set but they should have one. These times are a changin buddy. Change with em. Now a car. well those costs thousands for a decent one.
LOL! Not in my universe. I could see one of those deals with 2 buttons, calls home or 911 but no kid has to have a phone to call or text their buddies. Worst idea ever.
http:///forum/post/3282317
Cell Phones are so cheap these days and IMO esstential for young kids. Once you hit middle school IMO they should have one. Rules should be set but they should have one. These times are a changin buddy. Change with em. Now a car. well those costs thousands for a decent one.
LOL! Not in my universe. I could see one of those deals with 2 buttons, calls home or 911 but no kid has to have a phone to call or text their buddies. Worst idea ever.
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3282319
Indeed, I had no issues with the drink until Alyssa couldn't/wouldn't go to bed at 2:00 in the morning. I am a night shift worker so I was up and could see what was going on. I told to get to bed, she said she was wide awake and had the jitters as she put it. I told her no more energy drinks which she had sipped on all day long. She has heart condition and faints scaring me to death, when she said jitters…I was done.
I was hurt that she called me a jerk over a drink that made her jumpy, I fully explained my concerns and why I said no more drinks..I don’t override mom, that’s why I called about the cell phone. I grounded her from the computer over the jerk remark, and extended the punishment for another day because she had a tantrum about it.
She was angrier about the computer than the drink, which was never mentioned after the jerk remark. She knew she overstepped with that lippy hateful remark. She thought that since she apologized all was forgiven, and she could get on the computer with no fall out. However, I stick to my punishments and not let her think it was a small thing to call her loving Nana names. I’m pretty confident she learned the lesson. Time will tell. She is just 13 after all, I still adore her.
When my kid would make a honest effort at appologizing or making up for the infraction in some way I wouldn't let him talk down the punishment but if I grounded him for a week and he impressed me enough I would knock a few days off, as long as he wasn't asking for it. Didn't happen very often but then again I didn't have to punish him much.
http:///forum/post/3282319
Indeed, I had no issues with the drink until Alyssa couldn't/wouldn't go to bed at 2:00 in the morning. I am a night shift worker so I was up and could see what was going on. I told to get to bed, she said she was wide awake and had the jitters as she put it. I told her no more energy drinks which she had sipped on all day long. She has heart condition and faints scaring me to death, when she said jitters…I was done.
I was hurt that she called me a jerk over a drink that made her jumpy, I fully explained my concerns and why I said no more drinks..I don’t override mom, that’s why I called about the cell phone. I grounded her from the computer over the jerk remark, and extended the punishment for another day because she had a tantrum about it.
She was angrier about the computer than the drink, which was never mentioned after the jerk remark. She knew she overstepped with that lippy hateful remark. She thought that since she apologized all was forgiven, and she could get on the computer with no fall out. However, I stick to my punishments and not let her think it was a small thing to call her loving Nana names. I’m pretty confident she learned the lesson. Time will tell. She is just 13 after all, I still adore her.
When my kid would make a honest effort at appologizing or making up for the infraction in some way I wouldn't let him talk down the punishment but if I grounded him for a week and he impressed me enough I would knock a few days off, as long as he wasn't asking for it. Didn't happen very often but then again I didn't have to punish him much.
bang guy
Moderator
Hi Flower, good for you!
While they are in your care they are your responsibility and your best judgement is what matters. Although, anger really shouldn't enter the equation. There's no reason to get angry over a rebelling teenager. It's in their nature, it's what they do. Let them hold all the anger they want but don't fall into their trap. If they can manipulate your feelings then that is one more tool that is not available to you for helping them.
While they are in your care they are your responsibility and your best judgement is what matters. Although, anger really shouldn't enter the equation. There's no reason to get angry over a rebelling teenager. It's in their nature, it's what they do. Let them hold all the anger they want but don't fall into their trap. If they can manipulate your feelings then that is one more tool that is not available to you for helping them.
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/3282324
Hi Flower, good for you!
While they are in your care they are your responsibility and your best judgement is what matters. Although, anger really shouldn't enter the equation. There's no reason to get angry over a rebelling teenager. It's in their nature, it's what they do. Let them hold all the anger they want but don't fall into their trap. If they can manipulate your feelings then that is one more tool that is not available to you for helping them.
Which is why I owe all of you a ton of thanks, by being able to vent here, I didn't totally lose it on Alyssa, and even regained my sense of humor in it all, it really helped that I had friends to hold my virtual hand while I dealt with her.
I just picked up her Mom from the hospital, she isn’t doing all that great…I hope she doesn’t have to go back..she says she can’t hold any food down and is still in pain…so the saga of Lena continues…She is now talking about the Janesville hospital…I guess she will make her rounds on the way home…Big Sigh.
http:///forum/post/3282324
Hi Flower, good for you!
While they are in your care they are your responsibility and your best judgement is what matters. Although, anger really shouldn't enter the equation. There's no reason to get angry over a rebelling teenager. It's in their nature, it's what they do. Let them hold all the anger they want but don't fall into their trap. If they can manipulate your feelings then that is one more tool that is not available to you for helping them.
Which is why I owe all of you a ton of thanks, by being able to vent here, I didn't totally lose it on Alyssa, and even regained my sense of humor in it all, it really helped that I had friends to hold my virtual hand while I dealt with her.
I just picked up her Mom from the hospital, she isn’t doing all that great…I hope she doesn’t have to go back..she says she can’t hold any food down and is still in pain…so the saga of Lena continues…She is now talking about the Janesville hospital…I guess she will make her rounds on the way home…Big Sigh.
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/3282323
Energy drinks are garbage for kids, and a horrible habit to be into. Stick to your guns Flower, it's your house, your the boss, your rules. I will never let my kids drink that trash until they go to college...I still wish you would quit waving.
I will tell you what...LOL...I have to get on another computer to post a new thread...so..Why don't YOU start a poll, Should Flower keep the wave or ditch it?...I will abide by the results, no hard feelings..I think it would be fun...majority rules
meowzer
Moderator
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3282334
I just picked up her Mom from the hospital, she isn’t doing all that great…I hope she doesn’t have to go back..she says she can’t hold any food down and is still in pain…so the saga of Lena continues…She is now talking about the Janesville hospital…I guess she will make her rounds on the way home…Big Sigh.
Sorry to hear that Flower......I hope she starts "getting better" soon...for your sake, but mostly those kids.....
P.S. Keep the wave...it's you
http:///forum/post/3282334
I just picked up her Mom from the hospital, she isn’t doing all that great…I hope she doesn’t have to go back..she says she can’t hold any food down and is still in pain…so the saga of Lena continues…She is now talking about the Janesville hospital…I guess she will make her rounds on the way home…Big Sigh.
Sorry to hear that Flower......I hope she starts "getting better" soon...for your sake, but mostly those kids.....
P.S. Keep the wave...it's you