I'm pulling for a landslide repulican November!

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/80#post_3306701
W was so dumb he was only elected president twice. Last I heard Sarah Palin made better than 20 million in the last 12 months. If that is dumb I hope to be a moron some day.

He was elected twice, yet his last term was the catalyst of where we are today. Palin is making her millions because of the 'bleating sheep followers' stupid enough to listen to her illogical rhetoric.
 
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/80#post_3306708
 
He was elected twice, yet his last term was the catalyst of where we are today. Palin is making her millions because of the 'bleating sheep followers' stupid enough to listen to her illogical rhetoric.
 
And where are your bleating sheep followers oh wise one?
 
And didn't you say congress has more control over the economy than the president when you defend Obama...Yes you did....so stop blaming Bush, you can't have it both ways.
 
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/80#post_3306711
And where are your bleating sheep followers oh wise one?
 
And didn't you say congress has more control over the economy than the president when you defend Obama...Yes you did....so stop blaming Bush, you can't have it both ways.
 
So don't blame just the Democrats. The Republicans have as much to do about the debacle we're currently in than they are.
 
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/80#post_3306748
Using your own words, who had control of congress in 06'. Who has control now? when did the recession start? Oh yeah.......................
 
Do you honestly think it's always about who controls the Senate and House? It's more about how much pull you have in that office. Look how the Republicans have stymied many of Obama's proposals over the last several months. The Party Of No is doing everything they can to derail his efforts. Since they've controlled the power of Doom and Gloom on the major news outlets, they've convinced a majority of Americans that Obama and the Democrats will turn this country into a Socialist state in a matter of months. Problem is, the Republicans provide no viable answers on how to turn things around. They use the standard, "provide tax cuts to every American" routine, when in fact the only people who benefit from those cuts are the top 10% of wealthy Americans. So when you hand out all these tax cuts, where do you get the money to pay the Federal bills when they come due? When the Medicare and SS kitty's finally do run dry, where's the money going to come from to fill those accounts back up for all the upcoming Baby Boomers about to retire? Remember, your tax cuts have reduced the incoming funds that normally pay these bills.
 
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/80#post_3306763
 
Do you honestly think it's always about who controls the Senate and House? It's more about how much pull you have in that office. Look how the Republicans have stymied many of Obama's proposals over the last several months. The Party Of No is doing everything they can to derail his efforts. Since they've controlled the power of Doom and Gloom on the major news outlets, they've convinced a majority of Americans that Obama and the Democrats will turn this country into a Socialist state in a matter of months. Problem is, the Republicans provide no viable answers on how to turn things around. They use the standard, "provide tax cuts to every American" routine, when in fact the only people who benefit from those cuts are the top 10% of wealthy Americans. So when you hand out all these tax cuts, where do you get the money to pay the Federal bills when they come due? When the Medicare and SS kitty's finally do run dry, where's the money going to come from to fill those accounts back up for all the upcoming Baby Boomers about to retire? Remember, your tax cuts have reduced the incoming funds that normally pay these bills.
 
Obama has a large majority in the house and 60 seats in the Senate. The "party of no" are powerless to stop him if all his party supports him.
 
stdreb27

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Ever heard of Olivia Snow, or John McCain? You really are a blind sheep, if you're going to honestly argue that Obama and his democrats can basically pass anything they want to pass. He had about as much power as you can legally have... A 59 seat majority in the senate, with 3 - 4 Republicans in name only...
 
darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/80#post_3306763
 
Do you honestly think it's always about who controls the Senate and House? It's more about how much pull you have in that office. Look how the Republicans have stymied many of Obama's proposals over the last several months. The Party Of No is doing everything they can to derail his efforts. Since they've controlled the power of Doom and Gloom on the major news outlets, they've convinced a majority of Americans that Obama and the Democrats will turn this country into a Socialist state in a matter of months. Problem is, the Republicans provide no viable answers on how to turn things around. They use the standard, "provide tax cuts to every American" routine, when in fact the only people who benefit from those cuts are the top 10% of wealthy Americans. So when you hand out all these tax cuts, where do you get the money to pay the Federal bills when they come due? When the Medicare and SS kitty's finally do run dry, where's the money going to come from to fill those accounts back up for all the upcoming Baby Boomers about to retire? Remember, your tax cuts have reduced the incoming funds that normally pay these bills.
 
So you are telling me if your business wasn't giving a tax cut you wouldnt expand it using that money to generate more business for yourself? In return emplyeeing more people...in return MORE PEOPLE PAYING TAXES? you dont get it do you. AND YOU SAID it is all about congress...not me...those have been your words when defending Obama...yet he had a majority right off the bat...did the healthcare bill get filibustered? did stimulus get filibustered...the only thing getting filibustered is the jobs bill...which wasn't supposed to needed according to the fearless leader. When the tax cuts expire...who do you think it is going to hurt the most? The top 10% or the other 90%? do you even know the breakdown to the bush tax cuts? you speak talking points all day about the tax cuts then try to rail us and claim we do the same...LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BUSH TAX CUTS BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH.
 
darthtang aw

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Here, let me help you out.Between 2001 and 2003, the Bush administration instituted a federal tax cut for all taxpayers. Among other changes, the lowest income tax rate was lowered from 15% to 10%, the 27% rate went to 25%, the 30% rate went to 28%, the 35% rate went to 33%, and the top marginal tax rate went from 39.6% to 35%.[sup][/sup] In addition, the child tax credit went from $500 to $1000, and the "marriage penalty" was reduced. Since the cuts were implemented as part of the annual congressional budget resolution, which protected the bill from filibusters, numerous amendments, and more than 20 hours of debate, it had to include a sunset clause. Unless congress passes legislation making the tax cuts permanent, they will expire in 2011.
 
Now, if you are married with children in the lowest bracket, your taxes will increase 5%..plus 500 dollars per child...plus the marriage penalty will increase. meaning anyone making under 35,000 a year will see their annual income decrease around 2000 dollars. Oh they might get 1/2 back at the end of the year.....but that is still about 100 dollars a month less. Their annual raise will not cover this. That bracket already lives paycheck to paycheck.
 
reefraff

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Nahhhhhhhh, Changing those at the bottom's rate from 10 to 15% isn't going to hurt them nearly as much as going from 35 to 39% at the top.
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/80#post_3306836
 
So you are telling me if your business wasn't giving a tax cut you wouldnt expand it using that money to generate more business for yourself? In return emplyeeing more people...in return MORE PEOPLE PAYING TAXES? you dont get it do you. AND YOU SAID it is all about congress...not me...those have been your words when defending Obama...yet he had a majority right off the bat...did the healthcare bill get filibustered? did stimulus get filibustered...the only thing getting filibustered is the jobs bill...which wasn't supposed to needed according to the fearless leader. When the tax cuts expire...who do you think it is going to hurt the most? The top 10% or the other 90%? do you even know the breakdown to the bush tax cuts? you speak talking points all day about the tax cuts then try to rail us and claim we do the same...LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BUSH TAX CUTS BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH.
What you don't get is companies aren't investing ANY expendable cash right now, regardless of what tax cuts they'd get. Why? Because everyone on the Right is telling them that the Recession is still in full force, and all Obama wants to do is spend you into oblivion. The other problem is, the types of jobs that could eventually be expanded won't generate enough taxes to cover any tax cuts proposed. This country doesn't specialize in manufacturing, high output jobs anymore. Everything is done on the Internet or mass media. I don't have to hire some guy here in the US to do the work I need. I can put someone virtually anywhere in the world on my payroll, and get the same exact job done as if they were sitting next to me. Half the Fortune 500 companies are using 'virtual employees' these days. The only businesses looking for help these days are these stupid reality shows.
 
Hate to tell you, but I recall hearing a couple weeks ago that Obama was planning on extending a majority of the Bush tax cuts. He 's been pushing major tax credits to small businesses with a new bill. But I imagine you and the other Righties will be screaming, "Where's he going to get the money to provide these tax cuts to these businesses?" What's hilarious is the Republican's don't want to pass it because it pretty much mimics a plan they want to implement. If they let the bill go through, and the plan does spurn the economy and increse jobs, it may hurt their chances of gaining more seats in November. So whose controlling our jobs destiny today? If the Dems had this big control over the votes, why isn't this bill being passed?
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38855000
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6827493n
 
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/80#post_3306847
 
What you don't get is companies aren't investing ANY expendable cash right now, regardless of what tax cuts they'd get. Why? Because everyone on the Right is telling them that the Recession is still in full force, and all Obama wants to do is spend you into oblivion. The other problem is, the types of jobs that could eventually be expanded won't generate enough taxes to cover any tax cuts proposed. This country doesn't specialize in manufacturing, high output jobs anymore. Everything is done on the Internet or mass media. I don't have to hire some guy here in the US to do the work I need. I can put someone virtually anywhere in the world on my payroll, and get the same exact job done as if they were sitting next to me. Half the Fortune 500 companies are using 'virtual employees' these days. The only businesses looking for help these days are these stupid reality shows.
 
Hate to tell you, but I recall hearing a couple weeks ago that Obama was planning on extending a majority of the Bush tax cuts. He 's been pushing major tax credits to small businesses with a new bill. But I imagine you and the other Righties will be screaming, "Where's he going to get the money to provide these tax cuts to these businesses?" What's hilarious is the Republican's don't want to pass it because it pretty much mimics a plan they want to implement. If they let the bill go through, and the plan does spurn the economy and increse jobs, it may hurt their chances of gaining more seats in November. So whose controlling our jobs destiny today? If the Dems had this big control over the votes, why isn't this bill being passed?
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38855000
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6827493n
 
What Obama proposes and what gets written into the bill are usually two different things. The money for infrastructure is a joke...they already set money aside for that in the stimulus...where is that money now? The business tax cuts I am fine with.....I find it funny you rail on jobs going overseas...yet you practice the same method with your own business. I am even fine with the top two tiers reverting....But in the interest of socialism...that is the epitomy of socialism...wealth redistribution...Let me see this bill when it is written up first...But when the capital gains taxes increase...expect a stock market drop...once again hurting middle americas 401 k and pension plans.....The tax increases ALWAYS hurt the middle and lower clases more than the top tiers....
 
reefraff

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What will Obama demand in return for extending the cuts??? That's the big question. If they try to piggyback a bunch of other crap on the bill then it wont pass. If they only extend them a year it wont pass. If they do a clean extension it will. My trading money is collecting dust waiting to see. I think if a clean bill passes we see a nice end of the year rally.
 
fishtaco

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/80#post_3306853
What will Obama demand in return for extending the cuts??? That's the big question. If they try to piggyback a bunch of other crap on the bill then it wont pass. If they only extend them a year it wont pass. If they do a clean extension it will. My trading money is collecting dust waiting to see. I think if a clean bill passes we see a nice end of the year rally.
Collecting dust? You need to go buy some gold from your little buddy.

 
Fishtaco
 
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