I'm pulling for a landslide repulican November!

darthtang aw

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ocean Nutrition---a Canadian company.
 
Bill jack--sold out to corporate america---increased their corn content in their foods to lower their price point to compete with corn filled foods of china...even going so far as to lie and say corn is good for dogs at the levels they add it to their food.Some ingredients brought in from other countries.
 
The same people complaining about jobs leaving the country buy basic necesities for their household that further the the support for out of country products.
 
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november#post_3304848
The link is from the Bush era of presidency if you want to call it a presidency. Shipping all those jobs over seas and down south. Dahhhhh
lol, I love that your serious. It is hilarious, if people thinking like you weren't in power...
 
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Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november#post_3304854
Stop or reduce imports. That would help. We export alot less then what we import.
Ask smoot haley what they think about
 
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november#post_3304870
Yeah, I think someone forgot that Clinton started the policy of shipping the good jobs to China and India. Bush shoulders the blame for not reversing that when he had the chance saying it was "A net gain". That was pretty stupid.
Clinton helped, but they've been complaining about this since the 70's.
 
 

bang guy

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/20#post_3304883
Clinton helped, but they've been complaining about this since the 70's.
 
They could not hire a computer programmer from India or China in the 70's. It wasn't legal. Now probably 90% of the programmer positions in the US are filled by India, China, or Malaysia. They pay no US taxes, they don't spend their money at the local grocery, that money goes only one way, away from the US. These are not minimum wage jobs we are losing, they are 100K positions that are no longer available to US citizens.
 
Look up "Senator Hillary Tata offshore jobs" for a more complete picture of what they are doing to us. She was so proud of creating 10 jobs in Buffalo NY while at the same time sending 1000+ to India. Oh, and the 10 jobs are administrative and only 2 were held by citizens. The 1000+ offshored were high paid technical positions that left Buffalo with a bunch of unemployed professionals.
 

scottnlisa

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/20#post_3304880
ocean Nutrition---a Canadian company.
 
Bill jack--sold out to corporate america---increased their corn content in their foods to lower their price point to compete with corn filled foods of china...even going so far as to lie and say corn is good for dogs at the levels they add it to their food.Some ingredients brought in from other countries.
 
The same people complaining about jobs leaving the country buy basic necesities for their household that further the the support for out of country products.
 
So tell me then what american company makes fish food? And I'll buy it
 

scottnlisa

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/20#post_3304885
They could not hire a computer programmer from India or China in the 70's. It wasn't legal. Now probably 90% of the programmer positions in the US are filled by India, China, or Malaysia. They pay no US taxes, they don't spend their money at the local grocery, that money goes only one way, away from the US. These are not minimum wage jobs we are losing, they are 100K positions that are no longer available to US citizens.
 
 
That why I changed my degree with only 30 credits to go from Network Administration to Nursing. Can't be outsourced.
 

spanko

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Any incumbent that does not make the feds adhere to the constitution whether democrat or republican needs to go.
 

bionicarm

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Of course Congree has more effect on the economy. They're the one's creatiing the policies and laws, not the President. He just makes the suggestions, and if he agrees wiyth anything Congress passes, he signs into law. El Presidente is an overblown figurehead that Americans can use as a identifier for the Federal Govt. They have the 'one throat to chocke' to place the blame on what goes wrong in the country. Do you honestly think anything would be different if you'd had McCain sitting in the chair instead of Obama? Like you said, the Dems control both the House and Senate, and if McCain were in office, he'd be a lame duck until you could turn the majorities back over to the Republicans.
 
The problem you're going to have with these mid-term elections is the GOP/Republican representative won't be your typical Republican. It'll be one of these loopy Tea Party clones contrived from the genius of Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin. What's comical is the people that are voting for these inexperienced dweebs actually think they'll be able to turn things around in Washington. Problem is, they'll get eaten alive by the hard-liners that have been in office for decades, and know how to 'work the system'. They'll be completely ignored the first half of their term, and the second half, they'll just be someone's 'lap boy' and blindly vote for anything they're told to vote on. They get stuck in these lame minority committees creating legislation on some useless pork bill. Anything they try to bring up for a bill will be completely ignored. That's the sad truth about how the 'wheels on the bus go round and round' in the School Of Congress.
 

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/20#post_3304898
Of course Congree has more effect on the economy. They're the one's creatiing the policies and laws, not the President. He just makes the suggestions, and if he agrees wiyth anything Congress passes, he signs into law. El Presidente is an overblown figurehead that Americans can use as a identifier for the Federal Govt. They have the 'one throat to chocke' to place the blame on what goes wrong in the country. Do you honestly think anything would be different if you'd had McCain sitting in the chair instead of Obama? Like you said, the Dems control both the House and Senate, and if McCain were in office, he'd be a lame duck until you could turn the majorities back over to the Republicans.
 
The problem you're going to have with these mid-term elections is the GOP/Republican representative won't be your typical Republican. It'll be one of these loopy Tea Party clones contrived from the genius of Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin. What's comical is the people that are voting for these inexperienced dweebs actually think they'll be able to turn things around in Washington. Problem is, they'll get eaten alive by the hard-liners that have been in office for decades, and know how to 'work the system'. They'll be completely ignored the first half of their term, and the second half, they'll just be someone's 'lap boy' and blindly vote for anything they're told to vote on. They get stuck in these lame minority committees creating legislation on some useless pork bill. Anything they try to bring up for a bill will be completely ignored. That's the sad truth about how the 'wheels on the bus go round and round' in the School Of Congress.
So then why do you blame bush for the economy now still? And explain how Reagan was able to get a congress controlled by the opposition to go along with his ideas and policies.
 
 

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/20#post_3304891
So tell me then what american company makes fish food? And I'll buy it
if you were truly that concerned about it YOU would do the research for this to support YOUR beliefs and views. Instead of spouting off the view but not adhering to the policy and using it as a talking point to support your political party beliefs. This is my point...you are like most americans...you complain..blame corporate america and everyone else when you are a huge factor in the problem. Can you really blame corporate America for giving you the option to buy a cheaper product? Especially after you buy it? Have you ever spilled coffee on yourself and then sued someone because the coffee was hot?
 

bang guy

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Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/20#post_3304891
So tell me then what american company makes fish food? And I'll buy it
Most of the US Gulf seafood industry product can be easily used as fish food for your tank. It's just easier to buy Chinese farmed mercury laced crap in a plastic container. I assume that you will now begin to buy US seafood and process it yourself since that's what you promised you would do.
 
 

fishtaco

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/20#post_3304900
 
if you were truly that concerned about it YOU would do the research for this to support YOUR beliefs and views. Instead of spouting off the view but not adhering to the policy and using it as a talking point to support your political party beliefs. This is my point...you are like most americans...you complain..blame corporate america and everyone else when you are a huge factor in the problem. Can you really blame corporate America for giving you the option to buy a cheaper product? Especially after you buy it? Have you ever spilled coffee on yourself and then sued someone because the coffee was hot?
Buy local and American made whenever you can and stay away from Wal-Mart seems to work pretty well for me Darth and I don't complain about spending a little more at a local owned business either. Can I dare to blame large corporations for some of this countries problems now? Nothing really funnier than seeing a foreign made car with a Nobama sticker pulling into Wal-Mart, just another smart conservative I guess huh?
 
Fishtaco
 

mantisman51

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I read an interesting article in the Wall Street Journal where the writer of the OpEd stated that the loss of earning power by American workers makes housing inflated by 2-3 x what it should be compared to inflation. He said the first bubble pop is the first and lightest of what is about to come. The typical American in 1970 worked 2 1/2 years to buy a house (by total income) and now it is up to 8 years. If he's correct, and I think he is, housing is going to drop another 50% as the free market corrects 20 years of insanity. I know that in Idaho, where I moved from, a typical 3br/2ba home averaged $80k in 1995 and even with the downturn, is now $190k. Wages have not more than doubled anywhere in the country and with outsourcing there will be a continuing avalanche in housing prices. This is relevent in that unless wages increase dramatically, the #1 American asset is in serious trouble. And outsourcing is the blame.
 

fishtaco

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Originally Posted by mantisman51 http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/20#post_3304931
I read an interesting article in the Wall Street Journal where the writer of the OpEd stated that the loss of earning power by American workers makes housing inflated by 2-3 x what it should be compared to inflation. He said the first bubble pop is the first and lightest of what is about to come. The typical American in 1970 worked 2 1/2 years to buy a house (by total income) and now it is up to 8 years. If he's correct, and I think he is, housing is going to drop another 50% as the free market corrects 20 years of insanity. I know that in Idaho, where I moved from, a typical 3br/2ba home averaged $80k in 1995 and even with the downturn, is now $190k. Wages have not more than doubled anywhere in the country and with outsourcing there will be a continuing avalanche in housing prices. This is relevent in that unless wages increase dramatically, the #1 American asset is in serious trouble. And outsourcing is the blame.
I can remember when my parents bought the house I mostly grew up in and it was purchased for 19,500 dollars in about 1975, they both made 12-14 dollars an hour, the same house sold at the height of the housing bubble for 275,000 dollars. a couple of years ago. Can you imagine buying a house you can easily pay off in less than 10 years?
Fishtaco
 
Fishtaco
 
 

reefraff

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I was pulling for the Republicans to just get close enough to be able to derail Obama's policies so he couldn't run against them in 2012 but I changed my mind. I am rooting for a absolute Republican forced Armageddon on the Dems come November. Reason being I think Evan Bayh will challenge Obama in the primary and think Obama will say to hell with this and not stand for re-election. With God as my witness if that happens I will vote for Bayh unless a very interesting 3rd party candidate shows up.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/20#post_3304899
 
So then why do you blame bush for the economy now still? And explain how Reagan was able to get a congress controlled by the opposition to go along with his ideas and policies.
 
If you can spin a good tale, anyone is gullible enough to believe it. Why do you blame Obama? The representatives in Congress today are nothing like the one's who served back in the days of Kennedy, Roosevelt, and even Reagan. They understood what their role was in the government process, and did what was best for the country. There was party infighting, but nothing like it is today. You never heard as much of this 'Us vs. Them' mentality, and where one party refuses to even bend or compromise on an issue simply because their party didn't originate the idea.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/379964/i-m-pulling-for-a-landslide-repulican-november/20#post_3304900
 
if you were truly that concerned about it YOU would do the research for this to support YOUR beliefs and views. Instead of spouting off the view but not adhering to the policy and using it as a talking point to support your political party beliefs. This is my point...you are like most americans...you complain..blame corporate america and everyone else when you are a huge factor in the problem. Can you really blame corporate America for giving you the option to buy a cheaper product? Especially after you buy it? Have you ever spilled coffee on yourself and then sued someone because the coffee was hot?
 
Come on. How many products do you buy on a daily basis that clearly state where the product was made? In order to 'Buy American', I have to carry around a magnifying glass to find the miniscule print to tell me my box of Raisin Bran was made in Hong Kong? What percentage of major products that you purchase, especially large ticket items like electronics, computers, or appliances have factories in the US any longer? They may do final assembly in the US, but 99% of the parts come from foreign suppliers. It's not cost effective to manufacture the parts in the US. Why pay some guy in Nashville even minimum wage of $7.25/hr to build a part, when you can just cross the Mexico border, put up a plant for a third of the cost to maintain one in the US, then pay that same worker $8/DAY to do the same menial laborious work? Even with shipping and paying Import Fees and Taxes, you're still paying at the most $4/hour for labor costs. So yes, I do have a right to indirectly blame Corporate America for not having a product 'Made In The USA'. They could shutter their foreign factories and bring that manufacturing back to the US. However, Americans would then complain that they'd have to pay 30% more for an identical product they can buy from a foreign country. It's a no win scenario for Corporate America.
 
 

reefraff

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Free trade is what sold us down the river. Perot was right and I am damn proud to say I voted for the kook
 
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